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Topic author: Murphy
Subject: Passenger list
Posted on: 14/09/2005 07:26:14
Message:
Looking for Taftezon family that left Norway believe the Hammerfest
area in 1863. They arrived in New York. However, due to a fire in
NY the passenger lists for 1863 are gone. They arrived in the
summer of 1863 and I found a ship called Frednaes that left
Porgsgrunn June 6th and arrived in New York on July 29, 1863.
There were Peder, Emmerentze, Bernhardine, Ole Christian,
Sophie, Marie, christian, Oline and 3 others.
Could anyone tell me where I could write to find out of they were
on this ship?
Replies:
Reply author: Jo Anne Sadler
Replied on: 16/09/2005 11:16:13
Message:
Taftezon does not sound like a Norwegian name, zon should be son, old spelling of s looks like a z. There are passengers lists for the Port of New York in 1863, I have not heard of a fire.
Recommend you rent the microfilm passenger lists for this period from a local Family History Center. Have you actually found them in the police protocols or moving out records? More information would help in your search.
From Jo Anne at the Trondheim Public Library.
Reply author: Brining
Replied on: 16/09/2005 13:44:32
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One possiblity for the name would be the Taftøsøen in Hevne, Sør Trøndelag. If they were from Hammerfest or Hevne, it would be unlikely that they would have left from Porsgrunn. Trondheim would have been a closer port.
In the 1880 census for Peshtigo, Marinette, Wisconsin
P. A. TAFLEYON Self M Male W 61 NOR
Polena TAFLEYON Wife M Female W 46 NOR
Christ TAFLEYON Son S Male W 25 NOR Laborer
Antone TAFLEYON Son S Male W 20 NOR Laborer
Sofey TAFLEYON Dau S Female W 15 IL At Home
Emma TAFLEYON Dau S Female W 11 MO At School
Taena TAFLEYON Dau S Female W 9 MO
The two youngest were born in Missouri and in the 1870 census for MACON WALNUT CRK TWP MISSOURI there is
TUFTLESON PETER 53 M W NORW
Also in the household are Olina age 36, Girdle F 21, O. Christian M 15 Martina (Antone??) Male 9 all born Norway. Sophia F 6 born Illinois and Emma F 1 born Missouri
A family possibly related in the same township is
TUFTISON CRIS 54 M W NORW
Sofia 52 born Sweden and Mary 13 born Norway.
Carla
Reply author: Brining
Replied on: 16/09/2005 13:47:52
Message:
I also found a reference to a book written by Christian Taftezon
Author:
Taftezon, Christian
Title:
Om forholdene i Amerika
Subjects:
Handbooks, Emigration
Host document:
Tromsø stiftstidende
Printed:
1865, 25/5, 28/5
Owner:
Nasjonalbiblioteket, avdeling Oslo - Norsk-am. sml.
Maybe that book would have more information
Carla
Reply author: jwiborg
Replied on: 16/09/2005 14:47:22
Message:
A possible relative at Elsrud.com...?
Ole Kristian TAFTESEN, birth: ABT 1800, Alta, Finnmark
Partnership with: (Unknown)
Child: Oline Christofine TAFTERSEN Birth: 01/04-1823, Alta, Finnmark.
Alta is close to Hammerfest.
Oline married Nils Peder Figenschou, and they got the children Mary Anida Marie, Laurits Kristian, Johanne Tereshe and Katinka Ludvikke.
You have several of the same names (Ole Kristian, Oline, Marie...) which could indicate some sort of family relations....?
Jan Peter
Reply author: jwiborg
Replied on: 16/09/2005 14:56:24
Message:
I think Carla is on to something with the 1880 census from Wisconsin...
In the same census @ Digitalarkivet, the familyname is spelled Tafteyon, that should probably be Tafteson.
From LDS:
EDNA MAY TAFTESON
Birth: 13 OCT 1905 Marinette, Pound, Marinette, Wisconsin
Death: 30 MAR 1989
Father: CHRISTIAN OLAF TAFTEZON
Mother: JENNIE ENGLES
What does the 1900 census for Marinette, Wisconsin say about this family...?
Jan Peter
Reply author: jwiborg
Replied on: 16/09/2005 15:16:06
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Taken from http://www.naha.stolaf.edu/publications/blegenbooks/book2/chapter13.htm
Note: The above link doesn't work, so here is Google's buffer of the content:
"The employment of prospective copper miners was promoted vigorously in the far northern districts about Tromsø, from which 589 emigrants are recorded as having left in 1864. There the active agent was one Christian Taftezon, a Norwegian emigrant who was reported to have lived in America for thirty-five years. The laborers enrolled by him were transported via Newcastle and Liverpool; a Trondhjem newspaper item in August refers to some two hundred Norwegian copper miners herded for a night on the Newcastle station platform. The newspaper asserted that Taftezon, who was paid so much "a head" for the emigrants he forwarded, was fooling the people and that his activities ought to be checked by the public authorities. Later reports from emigrants, however, indicated that the wages and conditions of work in the copper mines were satisfactory. {69}
In 1865 Taftezon was again active as an emigrant agent. He published a lengthy article "On Conditions in America," in which he criticized the farming West as a goal for emigrants and urged people to go to the copper mines, particularly the Quincy mine at Portage Lake; and he arranged for a ship to leave Trondhjem in July and promised to meet the emigrants in Quebec. The cost of transportation was announced as from thirty to thirty-five specie dollars, the emigrant to furnish his own food. Taftezon agreed to forward a portion of the cost of the journey, to be made up later [417] by labor on contract, but each emigrant was required to have a minimum of twenty dollars. {70}
Michigan had been somewhat outside the main path of Norwegian emigrant settlement, though both the lumbering and the sailing industries had attracted substantial groups, who for the most part settled in the eastern counties along the Lake Michigan shore. Now, in part as a result of the activities of Tefft and Taftezon, Norwegians appeared in the Upper Peninsula, notably in the area of the copper mines in Houghton County and the iron mines in Marquette County, and in both areas there has been a large contingent of people from the far north in Norway. A traveler in the middle 1870's, for example, found from six to eight hundred Scandinavians in the city of Ishpeming, most of them Norwegians from the northern parts of Norway. In 1880 there were some six hundred Norwegians in Houghton County, concentrated for the most part in Calumet"
Jan Peter
Reply author: Brining
Replied on: 16/09/2005 15:54:37
Message:
The 1900 census for County MARINETTE Location COLEMAN has TAFTEZON PETER A 82 immigrated 1863
Wife Oline born Aug 1835 and son Antone born Sept 1862 both born in Norway and daughter Sophia born 1865 Illinois
TAFTEZON CHRIST 45 M W NORW his immigration date looks like 1868
TAFTEZON JOHN 53 M W NORW his immigration date is 1863
Carla
Reply author: Brining
Replied on: 16/09/2005 16:04:49
Message:
There is also an online family tree that has Emerentze Aagaard
married to Bernt Taftezon. Her parents are Zacharias Andersen Aagaard and Anna Margrethe Øwre
This appears to be Emerentze (Emerence) In the 1801 census for 1719 Skogn Nørd Trondelag Click Here
Carla
Reply author: jwiborg
Replied on: 16/09/2005 16:08:17
Message:
Hi!
You probably want to take a look at this document, stored at Nasjonalbiblioteket (The National Library) in Oslo!
Author: Helge Mathias Tjernagel
Title:Toftezons : Et kapitel av norsk-amerikansk historie. [Martin, Emmerentze og Bernhardine Toftezon]
Person/institution as subject: Toftezon, Bernhardine - Toftezon, Emmerentze - Toftezon, Martin
Host document: Symra
Printed: 10 (1914), s. 240 - 250
Owner: Nasjonalbiblioteket, avdeling Oslo - Norsk-am. saml.
The document's title is "Toftezons : A chapter in Norwegian-American history, and is a story about Bernhardine, Emmerentze and Martin Toftezon! 
Send an email to The National Library using this page: http://www.nb.no/epost/index.php?NAVN=nb
Jan Peter
Reply author: Hopkins
Replied on: 16/09/2005 16:18:05
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1900 US census for Marinette Co. lists four households with surname Taftezon (Norwegian born head of household).
(1) Christ Taftezon in town of Coleman - 45 yrs old, born Norway Oct 1855, immigrated 32 or 22 yrs earlier (hard to read), occup. laborer
(2) John Taftezon in town of Coleman - 53 yrs old, born Norway Jun 1847, immigrated 1863, occup. farmer
(3) Oline C. Taftezon in city of Marinette - 61 yrs old, born Norway Feb? 1839, immigrated (cannot read), occup. housekeeper
(4) Peter A. Taftezon in town of Coleman - 82 yrs old, born Norway Oct 1818, immigrated 1863, naturalized, occup. farmer
(Household includes wife, Oline, born Norway Aug 1835, mother of 7 - 3 still living; son, Antone, born Norway Sep 1860 Norway; and
daughter Sofia, born Illinois 1865)
1910 and 1920 census indexes do not list family with this spelling of surname, except a 30 yr old Anton Taftezon b. Wisconsin and living in San Francisco, California in 1920.
National Archives catalogs New York passenger lists of arrivals July 10-30, 1863 as being available on their microfilm reel 231 of record group 36?. The LDS Family History Library will have complete copies of these microfilms available - but of course they will be cataloged with their own library numbering system.
Reply author: Murphy
Replied on: 17/09/2005 03:21:53
Message:
Thanks everyone for your help. The family name is Taftezon.
The farthest back we have gone is Bernt Taftezon who married
and Aagaard in Norway. They moved around a lot in Norway
so thought maybe the place the ship took off was near
Hammerfest. I don't know what a police protocol or moving out
records are so don't know if they are listed. I tried having some
one I hired to look up the family in Norway, but he couldn't
really find anything. I thought since I had written to N.Y. and
they only had parts of lists because of a fire, they would have
the passengers that left Norway listed somewhere there.
I have a copy of the Toftezon's A chapter in Norwegian-History
as they dedicated a memorial to that part of the family in the
state of Washington. Martin was the first Norwegian to settle
in that area. My mother's name was Taftezon. She was the
daughter of Ole Christian son of Peder Taftezon. I'll see
about getting the family history records and see if they are
on that ship.
Thanks for all the help.
Reply author: roranda
Replied on: 07/02/2007 09:53:35
Message:
Hello
According to churchbooks in Kirkenes, Norway (nortern part) the family left Kirkenes on June 12th 1863. Kirkenes is 2500 kilometres away from Porsgrunn, so they cannot have been on that boat. Probably their boat departed from Tromsoe, Trondheim or Bergen.
Rolf
quote:
Originally posted by Murphy
Looking for Taftezon family that left Norway believe the Hammerfest
area in 1863. They arrived in New York. However, due to a fire in
NY the passenger lists for 1863 are gone. They arrived in the
summer of 1863 and I found a ship called Frednaes that left
Porgsgrunn June 6th and arrived in New York on July 29, 1863.
There were Peder, Emmerentze, Bernhardine, Ole Christian,
Sophie, Marie, christian, Oline and 3 others.
Could anyone tell me where I could write to find out of they were
on this ship?
Reply author: AndersonC
Replied on: 29/11/2007 04:45:39
Message:
Hi, Have been doing research on the Taftezon family since 1979 and have also been looking for the boat the Ole and his family arrived on. Documents written by Ole indicate they arrived in New York in the middle of July sometime. Did several museum exhibits on the family out here in Seattle WA. Zakarias/Zacharias Martin Taftezon came to America in 1847 and is a brother of Ole. Ole eventually lived out near Stanwood WA near his sister Emma (Bernhardine Emerentze) who lived on Camano Island. The mother's name was Emerentze Bernhardine. Martin was the first Norwegian settler in Washington (then part of Oregon Territory in 1849/1850. Taftezon is the correct name although there are many spellings including one in granite with Toftesen of which there was much discussion as to whether is should be sen of son. Neither of which turned out to be correct. There is one Taftezon still alive out here in Washington. Look forward to hearing from you. I have several copies of church records showing the many moves this family made in Norway. Can't seem to get much beyond Bernt Taftezon although Emerentze Aagaard's family is much easier to research. Bernt was part of the middle class being a "Factor" which basically means he ran a "fort" or trading center in various areas of Northern Norway. Think there must be some more info in Trondheim. Zon is not that uncommon given the time period of this name. It is very unusual in this time.
Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 29/11/2007 08:39:18
Message:
Kirkenes local parish was a part of Sør Varanger parish, two Taftezon families emigrated 1863, reported June 11 # 1 Peter Aaginius Taftezon and wife Oline Petronelle Berthæusdr, children Ole Christian age 7 3/4 and Anton Martin age 3 and two eleder children from a former marriage, Johan Bernt age 17 and Malene Birgitte age 13.
Reported June 12. #8, Ole Christian Taftezon and wife Sophie Fredrikke Svanhild born Bergmarksdr? and a fosterchild Maren Anna Michaelsen age 6, right page, Click here
Perhaps they left via Tromsø port in Troms county or Trondheim port in Sør Trøndelag county, heading for Bergen port in Hordaland county, dest America.
Kåre
Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 29/11/2007 09:17:03
Message:
Christian Taftezon wrote a book in 1865 about the conditions in Amerika.
Title: Forholdene i Amerika
The book is placed in Nasjonalbiblioteket, division Oslo - Norsk-am. sml (Norwegian - American collections.
Kåre
Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 29/11/2007 09:45:43
Message:
Taftezon is a family name, the Z is very unusual.
Peter Aagenius Taftezon was born in Bakke in Langfjord about 1818, his father was Bernt Eilert Taftezon.
Langfjord is most likely in Alta parish in Finmark county
Peter married Oline Petronelle Bertinusdr. Berg (the next is a name of a sub farm, ?eie) age 20, born in Bel? (hard to understand) Sept. 8. 1854 in a countryside "Landsokn", local parish at Vadsø town in Sør Varanger main parish.
Her father was Bertinius Pedersen.
#11
Kåre
Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 29/11/2007 10:07:03
Message:
Bernt Eilert Taftezon was in 1835 a merchant in Alta and married with Emmerentse Aagaard, their daughter Ingeborg Birgitte was christened on Oct. 21
Kåre
Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 29/11/2007 10:37:18
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Bernt Eilert Taftesen married Emmerentze Aagaard in "Vår Frues Kirke" Top 1. page in Trondheim town in Sør Trøndelag county Feb. 21. 1812.
Perhaps Peter Aagenius was born in Trondheim?
Finnmark, Alta is in the Western part and Varanger and Vardø is in the Norh-Eastern part.
Sør Trøndelag, Trondheim is in the Central part.
Still a mystry how cold they reach New York in 4-5 weeks after they left Northern Norway, could a merchant ship leaving Finnmark cross the Atlantic that fast, or did they leave on a steam ship that could make it on 12-15 days?
Kåre
Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 29/11/2007 12:36:16
Message:
Skogn 1801
Emmerentze Aagaard was born in Skogn parish in Levanger main parish in Nord Trøndelag county 1792 (LDS records).
Her parents were farmer and owner of a magriculture farm Zacharias Aagaard and Anna Margrete Øvre.
Emmerentze Aagaard had two siblings, Aage age 14 and Ingeborg Birgitha age 12 on farm Levanger plads
Nord Trøndelag, Levanger and Skogn is north of Trondheim.
Between Nord Trøndelag and Finnmark is Nordland and Troms counties, so it was a large distance to travel from Trondheim to Sør Varanger
Kåre
Reply author: AndersonC
Replied on: 29/11/2007 18:13:53
Message:
Thank you so much for all the info! I couldn't quite read the church page, but now I can order the film here and get it. Maren was known as Marie here. Have been trying to figure out if some how she was related to the Taftezon family. In photos I have she looks very much like some members. Ole left several children in Norway and have been wondering if perhaps she was the daughter/granddaughter of a relative. The family certainly didn't live in one place. Maren is interesting as Ole Christian did have a child with a Maren Heggelund Norager named Oline Christophine who was born 25 Feb 1839 in Alta. Perhaps the Maren/Marie born in about 1857 is somehow related. Oline married a Nils Peder Figenschou (another unusual name also found in Northern Germany) in 1862 in Helgoy.
Should say that z doesn't seem to be so unusual in the Bergen area where the Hanseatic League was located or some of the trading towns of the Hanseatic. Martin did go to Hamburg to learn the shoe repair trade which seemed unusual to me unless he might be staying with relatives.
Emerentze also seems like an unusual name and did find it in being used in Germany /Holland.
1863 wasn't a good time in the US especially in New York. Ole does say he landed in New York. This was during our civil war and in the middle of July riots were taking place in New York City because of the military draft. I have found another source that says they arrived in early August which would fit in the time line better for boat travel, but isn't a direct source. I often wondered if perhaps they left on a Norwegian boat, landed in England, and left from there.
I do have a copy of the articles Ole wrote back to Tromso about the copper mining. Thought this is where is says when he arrived in New York.
med hjertelig takk!
Christine
Reply author: AndersonC
Replied on: 29/11/2007 18:22:51
Message:
Am also looking for the boat Zacharias/Zakarias Martin Taftezon came over on. He left Hammerfest sometime in the spring of 1847 and later arrived in New Orleans USA supposedly via Liverpool the same year. He did sometimes work on a boat so he might have been a "hired hand" at the time, too. Haven't been able to confirm exactly when he left or when he arrived. Info is from family stories with inexact dates. Thanks again.
Christine
Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 29/11/2007 18:54:02
Message:
Hi,
you are entireli right abouth that Z could be of German influense, espesially in Bergen starting with the "Hansa periode" about 1400.
I was more thinking about the last name Tastezen, the records from the wedding 1802, " Vår Frues Kirke" in Trondheim also show the last name spelled Tastesen, so I believe the origin of the name was mans name Taste (Toste).
Pehaps it was a German priest who did the spelling, he would likely write the name as he heard them prononced.
In my hometown Kongsberg it was, because of the silver mines, both German, Danish and Norwegian priests and because of that the names in the church books could change from one week to another.
Would be of interest to know how the Z started, likey we will never know.
Kåre
Reply author: AndersonC
Replied on: 29/11/2007 21:45:09
Message:
Hi there Kåre!
Think perhaps if any records could be found for Bernt's family parents it would answer the question. Where to search is the problem--Trondheim as that was where they were married or northern Norway (Levanger where Emerentze is from?) or Bergen? It seems odd that they would go all the way to Trondheim from Levanger to get married, but it was a big church and maybe that was why.
Since so much has been printed about the Taftezon family in the Alta area and surrounding areas am inclined to think that is the way it was spelled. Know it is hard to distinguish an f from s in those old Gothic scripts. Their name has been spelled so many ways both in the US and Norway. Martin's immigration name was totally off which caused some problems when he trying to get some land as a citizen of the US.
When Bernt and Emerentze were married in 1812, northern Norway was being blockaded by the English and maybe that is why they were married down there. In one of the books it says, "Kistrand og Kjelvik ble senere slått til 4. seksjon under kommando av Bernt Eiler Taftezon på Repvåg." This took place in the summer of 1811 but that is a guess in the publication, but somewhere between 1809-1811. This was the same time the US was also at war with Britian and in War of 1812. Maybe Bernt lived in Repvåg then. So many unanswered questions and so many places to look.
Have family living in Kongsberg--Svilaas--and visited there way back in 1985, the last time I was in Norway.
Thank you again for your help!
Christine
Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 30/11/2007 00:34:39
Message:
Hi,
guess you visited Arne and his parents, I spoked with Arne last Friday.
I aslo mean the spelling Taftezon is correct, I have seen the name in other parish´s too (don´t remember where)
There were 3 Tastesen´s living in Trondheim 1801, but no Bernt Eilert Taftezon
Kistrand and Kjelvik was gathered to 4. unit under command by Bernt Eilert Taftezon at Repvåg.
Repvåg is at Nordkapp, the northerly part of Norway.
From 1807-1811, Denmark/Norway was in war on Napoelons side, then in 1814 the war agains Sweden broke out. Negotiations was started August 10 and Norway was forced into a 91 years long union with Sweden by those days Super powers.
It´s hard to find Bernts forfathers, where they came from, they lived at so many dif. places
It looks like Tommy Thorsen also is seeking Zackarias and Anne Øvre´s parents. Perhaps he has the key?
Click here
Repvåg and Nordkapp
Kåre
Reply author: AndersonC
Replied on: 30/11/2007 03:24:16
Message:
Thanks Kare! Corresponded with Tommy earlier so will get back with him night. Repvag seems like a pretty small place and probably was even back then. All helpful! Christine
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