Frederica (Olava )Olsen

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Topic author: Don L
Subject: Frederica (Olava )Olsen
Posted on: 30/08/2008 01:16:53
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I had been searching for the ancestry of Olava Olsen, my maternal great grandmother. I have recently found that her name was Frederica Olava Olsen born approximately 1862 c/- Bertie Christensen, Gjettemyrs, Weien, Christiana. In New Zealand she was always known as Olava

She emigrated to New Zealand on board the Arethusa from London on 1879-09-03 arriving in NZ on 1879-12-07. aged 17 and described as a Domestic Servant.

I am interested in researching her ancestry. Can anyone kindly help?

Don L

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Reply author: jwiborg
Replied on: 30/08/2008 12:04:34
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Here she is with parents and 4 siblings in census-1865 for Christiania (Oslo), Norway:

Ole Christensen, 48, born in Hedmark county
Berthe Marie Jacobsdatter, 36, born in Gjerdrum, Akershus county
Hans Olsen, 12, born in Christiania
Karen Olsdatter, 10, born in Christiania
Marie Olsdatter, 7, born in Christiania
Fredrikke Olave Olsdatter, 5, born in Christiania
Caroline Olsdatter, 2, born in Christiania

Her parents are Ole Christensen & Berthe Marie Jacobsdatter

Berthe Marie Jacobsdatter looks to have remarried between 1866 and and 1870, because in 1875 she is married to Kristian Kristiansen.
Here is Fredrikke Olava with parents and 4 siblings in census-1875 for Christiania (Oslo), Norway:

Kristian Kristiansen, b 1828 in Kristiania
Birte Marie Jakobsen, b 1827 in Gjerdrum, Akershus county
Fredrikke Olava Olsen, b 1862 in Kristiania
Karoline Olsen, b 1864 in Kristiania
Amalie Kristiansen, b 1870 in Kristiania
Dorthea Kristiansen, b 1874 in Kristiania

Address: Gedemyrsveien 7, Kristiania

Gjettemyrs, Weien, Christiana = Gjettemyrsveien, Christiania (Oslo)... old spelling: Gedemyrsveien
Bertie Christensen = her mother Berthe Marie Jacobsdatter

Jan Peter

Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 30/08/2008 14:32:57
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The first child of Birthe Marie and Kristian, Amalie Christine was born at Dalsbergstien 88 Dec 20 1869, which was before they married. See #37
Fredrikke Olava was born July 30 1861 and baptized Dec 26, see #249
the parents were then living at Bisletværket, most likely the same adress as for the 1865 census.

Reply author: Don L
Replied on: 03/09/2008 22:59:17
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Hello Jan Peter, many many thanks for that most valuable information. I have forwarded this on to various family members who are ancesters of Olava's

Once again, many many thanks

Don L

Reply author: Don L
Replied on: 04/09/2008 05:15:49
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Hi eibache and Jan Peter,
Thanks for your help but I wonder if
can you trace Fredrikke Olava's family back any further?
Here's hoping...
Regards

Don L

Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 04/09/2008 06:43:43
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Fredrikke Olaves sister Karen was born April 8 and baptized Karen Christine on May 25 1856, see #121
The father was working on a brickyard - Bisletværket.

Her brother Hans was born Jan 31 1854 and baptized Hans Jacob, see top record
the family was then living in Hausmansgaden. In a note it says that belonged to another pish - Vår Frelsers Menighet, the baptism is also recorded there, see
top record
- the birth date is here given as Jan 21!

When Caroline was born, see #42
they were still living at Bislet.

Fredrikke Olaves father Ole Christensen 47 years old died June 6 1867, see #101

No marriage record or birth records for her parents found so far.

Reply author: jwiborg
Replied on: 04/09/2008 22:20:49
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This might be her:

Berthe Maria Jacobsdatter
Christening: 28 MAR 1830 Gjerdrum, Akershus, Norway
Parents: Jacob Hermandsen & Marthe Guldbrandsdatter
Source: Akershus county, Gjerdrum, Parish register copy nr. I 1 (1816-1837), Birth and baptism records 1830, page 286-287.
No 9, right page

Hedmark is quite a big county, and there was a lot of "Ole Christensen" born there around 1820, so it will be hard to locate his origin without any more clues.
A marriage record would be essential, because that should reveal his fathers name and possibly township or the farm where he grew up.

Did you check the marriage records around 1850-1854 for Aker, Oslo, Einar?

Jan Peter

Reply author: Don L
Replied on: 05/09/2008 00:11:33
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Hello Jan Peter,

Thanks for that information - it's most useful.

As far as a marriage certificate is concerned, I am unsure how to locate such a document, not being able to read the Norwegian language and not knowing where to look. Based her in New Zealand, there are limited facilities for finding such documents.

Any suggestions?

Don L

Reply author: jwiborg
Replied on: 05/09/2008 00:33:52
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The marriage certificate should be found at the The National Archives of Norway (Riksarkivet, http://www.arkivverket.no/english/about.html), which have online scanned databases of allmost all church books in Norway, dating back several hundred years.

One problem though, is that the images are not indexed, so you can't do a search, you'll have to know where to look...

You can do a guess though...

1. Ole Christensen is born around 1818-1820 in Hedmark county
2. Berthe Marie Jacobsdatter looks to be born in 1830 in Gjerdrum, Akershus county.
3. Their first son Hans was born Jan 31 1854 and christened in Aker church, Oslo.
4. Their first daughter Karen was also christened in Aker church (1856).

So did they also marry there?

The online records for Oslo can be viewed here.

It's possibly they married in Aker church, Oslo, around 1850-1854, so it could be of great value to scan through those images. But it could also be another church, depending where they lived in at the time of the marriage. A possibility could be Gjerdrum, Akershus county, where the bride was born, or somewhere else in Oslo.

Jan Peter

Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 05/09/2008 09:08:42
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Yes Jan Peter, I did search both marriage and birth records to some extent but did not find any.
Now that you have found Berthe Marias birth and seing the note "meddelt flytting til Aker 10/11 45", we may have better luck, - Berthe Maria Jacobsdatter confirmed in Aker April 19 1846, see #48
Berthe Marias father Jacob Hermandsen in 1801
his mother Berte Erichsdatter was a widow. She was Berthe Marias grandfather Herman Hansens second wife, the mother of Jacob, but not Gulbjør - her mother was Kirsti Erichsdatter.

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 05/09/2008 14:13:40
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Hi Jan Peter and Einar.
I have also been looking into the same records, Oslo and Gjerdrum, but no luck so fare.
Also the LDS records don´t give any answeres, it seems like they married between 1850-54.

Hedmark are consisting of 30 municipalities.

Kåre

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 05/09/2008 14:47:51
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Got them,
they married in Old Aker Church on June 1. 1851, Ole Christensen was born in Løiten next to Hamar town in Hedmark, Jan. 1. christened Jan. 27. 1822, his confirmation was on Oct. 9. 1834 in Løten church, top page #95

You found the right Berthe Marie Jacobsdatter in Gjerdrum Jan Peter

Kåre

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 05/09/2008 15:36:44
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Løten church Jan. 27.1822
Ole born Jan. 1 to Christen Olsen and Inger Hansdr Røne #12

Godparents: Anders Jonsen Lille Fønseth, Hans Knudsen Røne (Stabberud), Paul Christensen Røne, Inger Jonsdr. ibid (Røne)

In the Ministerial church book 1814-32 the Godfather Hans Knudsen Røne is named Hans Knudsen Stabberud.

Kåre

Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 05/09/2008 15:54:53
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Well done Kaare, one snag though, they did not marry june 1, that was the third lysning, as I see it they were married Sept 14 1851. The marriage record is #111
Looks like we are a litlle different on the birth date of Ole as well, I see it as Jan 7, see third to the last record on the left hand page here

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 05/09/2008 15:56:35
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Løten church

Røne

You are right Einar, Cop: Sept. 14.

Kåre

Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 05/09/2008 17:44:23
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Christen Olsen and Inger Hansdatter married March 29 1816, see #7
Christen Olsen came from vestre lille Tindstad and was 22 years old, Inger Hansdatter was 25 years old and came from Røne.
In 1801 Inger was on Stabrud with her parents and siblings, see here
Ole was with his parents on Engelaug vestre in 1801

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 05/09/2008 19:44:03
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Stabberud in Løten.

Løten municipality in Hedmark county is located east of Norways largest freshwaterlake Mjøsa next to Hamar town.

Kåre

Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 05/09/2008 20:15:54
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Jacob Hermansen was a twin, his brother was Erich. They were baptized Sept 8 1778, see #31 & 32
(last record on right hand page)
Herman Hansen and Birthe Erichsdatter were married April 23 1756, see #2
Jacob Hermansen (43 1/2) and Marthe Gulbrandsdatter (23) were married April 9 1818 in Nannestad, see #94
Marthe Gulbrandsdatter was born Dec 28 1796 and baptized Jan 1 1797, see third record from top
her parents were Gulbrand Olsen Harstad and Goro Andersdatter.

Reply author: jwiborg
Replied on: 05/09/2008 22:21:11
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Nice work to both of you!
I thought Ole & Berthe Maria would have married in Aker church around that time, but I didn't have the time to scan through the records...

With regards to the date June 1st, 1851 (3:de lysning). In english: "their third publication of the banns", ie it was their 3rd marriage announcement on that date.

Jan Peter

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 06/09/2008 09:59:57
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Inger Hansdatter Stabberud (age 9 in the 1801 census for Stabberud) christened jan. 7. 1791, right page #3. from top:
Hans Stabberud and Inge Pedersdatter D. (Daughter) Inge.
Godp.
Else Rønne, Oliv Muus, Ole Muus, Lars Rønne, Ole Stabberud

Kåre

Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 06/09/2008 10:19:08
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Sorry for commenting the date for Inges christening Kaare, it says "Dito dat" in this case it is Jan 29 1792.

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 06/09/2008 10:19:42
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It was only a wrongspelling of the date.

Widow for 2. time Marie Hansdatter, age 75 in the 1801 census for Stabberud, see above, Hans Olsen Stabberuds mother was from Rømme.
She married Ole Olsen Norseth on Oct. 10. 1744 in Løten, they engaged June. 17.

Juny:17 Soldat (Soldier) Ole Olsen Nordseth og pigen (Maid) Marie Hansdatter Rømen Octobr:d:10.
1. page bottom

Ole Olsen Norseth and Stabberud died spring (buried March 26. age 44) 1765 and his widow Marie Handatter married Hans Larsen in 1766, in 1774 the farm was taken over by his steph son and rightful heir Hans Olsen Stabberud in the 1801 census.

Nordseth

I wonder why the photos of the farms seems to live its own life, sometimes it works well, sometimes it don´t.?
I´ll look into it later.

Kåre

Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 06/09/2008 11:53:53
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I don't know whether it is important, but the date for the engagement of Ole Olsen and Marie Hansdatter was Junii d 17, i.e. June 17.

Reply author: Don L
Replied on: 06/09/2008 13:01:12
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Hi to the team of specialists who have been looking up my ancestry for me - well done, I could not have done anything like this as i have absolutely no knowledge of the Norwegian language. So a very very special word of thanks.

You are all wonderful- and my relatives are most happy at what has been uncovered. We are now trying yo uncover our other Scandinavian roots - Swedish and Danish - however those countries are not so well served as they don't seem to have an equivalent of NorwayHeritage.

Once again - thanks

DonL (Hamilton New Zealand) .

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 06/09/2008 15:05:11
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You are welcome,
Swedish and danish genealogy is not familare to me, sorry.
Here is the link to the photoarchiv to searc for yourself, Stabberud and Nordseth works well, pehaps Ø in Røne is harder to get.
Write the name in the window and press "søk"

Good luck

Mari Hansdatter Stabberud died 1807, the funeral was on April 23, age 84, right page 2. from bottom #12

The records from 1723, about when Mari Hansdatter Røne was born dont exist, but her confirmation was January 1743, right page, right hand 15. name from bottom.
It looks like she had an older sister Brynild, her confirmation was on April 28. 1737

Kåre

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 06/09/2008 15:40:27
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The same goes for Ole Olsen Nordseth/Stabberud born about 1721, his conformation was oct. 6. 1737, right side 1. column, #4 from bottom

Reply author: jwiborg
Replied on: 06/09/2008 16:07:45
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quote:

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Originally posted by Don L

We are now trying yo uncover our other Scandinavian roots - Swedish and Danish - however those countries are not so well served as they don't seem to have an equivalent of NorwayHeritage.DonL (Hamilton New Zealand) .

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Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 06/09/2008 18:49:47
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1664 census for Hedmark, Løten is about half way down page "Folketellingsliste NR. 1 for Løten of Sept. 19. 1664"

Only men, boys and widows were counted, Tax payers and potensial soldiers.
Farms were divided in groups as Fuldgaard (Complet farm) Halffuegaard - Halvgaard (Half a farm) and Ødegaard (Desert farm)

The Tax to pay for a Fullgaard could be for ex. 60 Shilling, Halvgaard 30 Shilling and Ødegaard 1 Ort.

Rønne was a "Fuldgaard and valued to 5 1/2 Hide owned by Lauridtz Erichsen age 42, a seravnt was Soldier Bendt Olsen age 25, and a sub farm (h) by tenant farmer Jon Rasmusen age 60.

Stabberud was a Halvgaard and valued to 1 Hide owned by Peder Biørnsen age 37 and a tenant farmer, Olle Andersen age 60

Nordseth was a Ødegaard valued to 4 skin, owned by Thorsten Erichsen age 55

Kåre

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 07/09/2008 00:31:36
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From the 1801 census for Stabberud above:
The heir, Hans Olsen who takes over Stabberud in 1774 was born at Stabberud 1751, christened March 25.
1. page 2. christening: marty d:25 Hans (born to) Ole Olsen Stabberud and Mari HansDatter.
Godparents: Harald Ottersen Sigstad, Anders Gudmundsen Viverstad, Oliv Aanestad, Giermund Ottersen Liven, Mari Gulbrandsdatter Aanestad.
Last column, Mai 2., tells when the mother (Mari Hansdatter) was introdused to the congregation in a christen ceremony in Løten church.

Hans Olsen Stabberud married Inger Pedersdatter on June 12. 1777, engaged March. 22. Right page #2 from bottom:
Hans Olsen Stabberud and Inger Pedersdatter Murstad.
Best men were: Ole Knudsen Brenholen and Christen Christensen Roset.

Inger Pedersdatter was born at Murstad 1753, christened Sept. 9, right page #2 from bottom:
Inger (born to) Peder Larsen Murstad and Marthe Olsdatter.
Godparents: Anders Kiøs, Anders Andersen nordre Enger and wife, Mari Helgesdatter Rogstad, Anne Olsdatter Høllingstad

Peder Larsen and Marthe Olsdatter married Nov. 23. 1747, they were angaged Nov. 5: Corporal Peder Larsen Muurstad and Marthe Olsdatter Hollingstad.
Best men: Anders Kiøs and Ole Jonsen Stafseng.
Right page #3 from top.

Peder Larsen died 1794, age 79 and Marthe Olsdatter died 1784, age 58, both at Murstad.


Kåre

Reply author: Don L
Replied on: 07/09/2008 09:16:37
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Hi Kare,
I seem to be a bit lost as to the last few entries - are these ancestors of Olava's or are they related to god parents? Or have I missed out something?

You certainly have been doing a lot of digging for us, and havwe found some gold, but now i am lost.

Regards

Don L

Reply author: Kåarto
Replied on: 07/09/2008 10:25:51
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Hi Don,
genealogy can be confusing with all the new names coming up in a few days.
I am only working on Berthe Marie Jacobsdatter´s husband Ole Christian Christiansen from Løten parish and municipality in Hedmark county and his parents/forefathers coming from Røhne, Stabberud and Nordseth.

Guess spring has come to N.Z., fall has almost started in Norway.
New Zealand is the opposite country of Norway on the globe and the most equal when it comes to nature as the walleys, fjords, mountains and rivers south of equator, so if it was possible to drill a deep hole......

Kåre

Reply author: Don L
Replied on: 08/09/2008 07:13:09
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Thanks for clearing that up - see that place names are added to family names which has caused some of my confusion,

Yes, we are into spring, but have had a very wet winter with a lot more flooding than we have experienced before - must be related to global warming. In Hamilton, in the north of the North Island, we don't get snow or the freezing conditions one associated with your part of the world. We would love to visit one of these days.... on our dream list.

Thanks for all your help, it's very much appreciated.

Rergards
Don L

Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 08/09/2008 07:45:05
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The fifth record from top on right hand page is the marriage record for Gulbrand Olsen Harstad and Goro Andersdatter, see here
the date is April 18 1775.
Gulbrand was baptized Jan 23 1752, see left hand page, left bottom corner here
his parents were Ole Michelsen and Dorthe Tostensdatter from Harstad.
Goro Arnesdatter died May 21 1827, see #422
she was then 71 years old. She was baptized Nov 1 1754, see next to the last record on the right hand page
here
her parents were Arne Christophersen and Margrete Tostensdatter at the Sesvold farm in Ullensaker.

Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 08/09/2008 09:28:13
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Ole Michelsen Hars and Dorthe Tostensdatter Øvrefoss was married June 3 1751, see top left hand page.
Dorthe Tostensdatter Øvrefoss was baptized March 11 1725, see 5th record from top on right hand page. Her parents were Tosten Nielsen and Karen Augustinusdatter. They were married July 11 1717. Tosten was born in 1687 and his parents were Niels Tostensen and Dorthe Christophersdatter.
Karen was born 1694 in Gjerdrum and her parents were Augustinus Larsen and Karen Knudsdatter.

Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 08/09/2008 10:14:58
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Arne Christophersen and Margrete Tostensdatter were married in Hovind, Ullensaker Dec 2 1751, see bottom of right hand page.
Margretes parents were Tosten Steffensen and Goro Haraldsdatter. Tosten Steffensen was baptized April 4 1700, see bottom of left column on right hand page
his parents were Stephen Nilsen and Olau Torstensdatter, Kolbye.
Arne Christophersens parents were Christopher Siursen and Sigri Arnesdatter. They were married in 1716.

Reply author: Don L
Replied on: 09/09/2008 12:45:27
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Hi eibache, this is absolutely mind blowing - you have taken the famiy back to the 1670s with this last information and it is lovely to be able to see rthe original records from 1700- (even though I can't decipher them as I don't understand the language of my ancestors)

Fantastic - wish we could do things like this with NZ records, there are huge gaps in our records and much of it is not readily accessible due to so called "privacy" laws from our nanny state...

Thanks well done

Don L

Reply author: Don L
Replied on: 16/09/2008 02:32:36
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Hello - i have found that at least two of Olava's sisters come to New Zealand. Karen Christine arrived in Wellington in 1876 and later in the year married Charles Lamberg who had arrived from Sweden. They had one child before Charles died in 1903. In 1911 Karen married Emil Cornelius Myers (name later changed to Myhre) - he was said to have come from Norway.

Caroline arrived in 1884 and married Emile Pasche (from Norway) in 1885. Unfortunately she died shortly after,

I am still trying to find if olava's other siblings also came to NZ - brother Hans Jacob Olsen and sister Marie Olsdatter (Olsen)

Once again, thanks for your help

Don L

Reply author: Don L
Replied on: 13/09/2009 02:08:33
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Hi my grandaughter Hayley Lindale is about to trip over to Norway from london where she is domiciled at present and would like to visit the areas where her ancestors (the Olsens) came from.

Any suggestions as to where she should visit? This would be most helpful. she can be contaced at hayleylindale at gmail dot com

Thanks

Don L

Reply author: eibache
Replied on: 13/09/2009 07:54:54
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The Olsens came from Løten in Hedmark county, this is close to the city of Hamar situated at Mjøsa, Norways largest lake.
Farm names were Stabberud, Røne and Nordset.
I suggest using the info in this topic and get hold of a map unless you want to use this searchable map
or one in english language that works for Nordset - zoom out toget a view of where in Norway it is.

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