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jungfigh
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 Posted - 18/01/2007 : 22:29:53
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Below are the details of my maternal Grandfathers death.
It is believed he travelled to UK (Ramsgate, Kent) at the turn of the 19th century from an unknown Norwegian location. It is also known that he fought on the Western Front in the Great War as a gunner in the Royal Artillery.
I have been told that Tromm translates into English, or was changed to Thompson. There is also a memorial plaque dedicated to 'Campanula' in the Seaman's Church, Royal Harbour Ramsgate. Interestingly my Grandfather's name is shewn : Christine Thompson.
Any information would be sincerely appreciated in helping me find my Norwegian relatives.
Name: THOMPSON, CHRISTAIN
Initials: C
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Second Engineer
Regiment/Service: Mercantile Marine
Unit Text: Steam Trawler "Campanula" (Ramsgate)
Age: 37
Date of Death: 28/01/1920
Additional information: Husband of Maude Oliva Thompson (nee Fast), of 6, Florence Terrace, Cannonbury Rd., Ramsgate. Born in Norway.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Memorial: TOWER HILL MEMORIAL
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Borge
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Posted - 19/01/2007 : 19:38:36
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| It would be a great advantage if you could provide date and year of birth. |
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jungfigh
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Malta
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Posted - 19/01/2007 : 22:09:45
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Thank-you Borge.
I will post it here when I manage to obtain it. |
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Borge
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Posted - 19/01/2007 : 23:25:42
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| And are you sure the name was Tromm? It is not a known name in Norway. However, there is one candidate in the 1900 census nemed Kristian Thomm, he was a sailor born in 1881, living in Bergen (a ships cook on a steamship at the time) . |
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jungfigh
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Malta
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Posted - 21/01/2007 : 10:24:09
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That's a very interesting point Borge. Possibly 'lost' in the translation? My own Surname over the years has been altered a great deal. In coincidence the time-frame fits. Below is an extract from the 1901 Census of England & Wales which shews my Nan as being 15years.
View Name Age Where born Administrative county Civil parish Occupation
Maud Fast 15 Kent Ramsgate Kent St Lawrence Gener Serv Domestic
I have searched the same Census for Christian. (name variations, etc. but with no result)
With regard to Kristian Thomm: Is there any record of him emigrating to England? I do accept that all that time ago literally thousands of sea-farers 'jumped ship' on distant shores in order to create a new life/Identity.
I would be very grateful of any further advice you can offer me. |
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jungfigh
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Malta
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Posted - 09/09/2013 : 11:54:03
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I have just received this from Military Records UK: It states that Grandfather was serving in trawler Campanula when killed. This is correct, but he served throughout WW1 as a private in the Royal Artillery, on the Western Front, wounded but survived and then in 1920 as an engineer in Campanula the trawler dragged inboard a mine which killed all on board. A commemorative tablet to the crew is displayed in the chapel of 'The Home For Smackship Boys' in the corner of the inner basin, Ramsgate harbour in Kent, England. Am still trying to find my grandfathers place of birth in Norway...HELP PLEASE..!
First Name: Christain
Initials: C
Surname: Thompson
DOB: Circa 1883
Age: 37
Nationality: British
Date of Death: 28/01/1920
Information: HUSBAND OF MAUDE OLIVA THOMPSON (NEE FAST), OF 6, FLORENCE TERRACE, CANNONBURY RD., RAMSGATE. BORN IN NORWAY.
Rank: Second Engineer
Campaign Medals:
Victory Medal
Like many service personnel of World War One, Christain Thompson was entitled to the Victory medal, also called the Inter Allied Victory Medal. This medal was awarded to all who received the 1914 Star or 1914-15 Star and, with certain exceptions, to those who received the British War Medal. It was never awarded alone. These three medals were sometimes irreverently referred to as Pip, Squeak and Wilfred.
Eligibility for this award consisted of having been mobilised, fighting, having served in any of the theatres of operations, or at sea, between midnight 4th/5th August, 1914, and midnight, 11th/12th November, 1918. Women who served in any of the various military organisations in a theatre of operations were also eligible.
British War Medal
As with many Armed Forces personnel, Christain Thompson was entitled to the British War Medal for service in World War One. This British Empire campaign medal was issued for services between 5th August 1914 and 11th November 1918.
The medal was automatically awarded in the event of death on active service before the completion of this period.
Service: British Army
Regiment: Mercantile Marine
Mercantile Marine during World War 1
More information about Mercantile Marine
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Battalion: Steam Trawler "Campanula" (Ramsgate)
Commemorated: Britain
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jkmarler
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Kåarto
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Posted - 09/09/2013 : 14:48:10
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Christian Thommassen/Thommesen ?
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jkmarler
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Posted - 09/09/2013 : 15:17:18
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That seems likely since he's the only one with that surname in 1900.
Here is a possible in the 1885 census of Bergen, Christian Johan Tønneson b. 1883 Bergen:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=76&filnamn=F81201&gardpostnr=36552&merk=36552#ovre
Here's his record in baptisms in Bergen 1816-1894:
Lp.nr. Year Christened Church / parish
62533 95 1883 1208 Nykirken
Role Employment Lead Name Surname Sex Housing Born date Born year
187147 Children Christian Johan m 0307
187148 Father Malersvendr Nicolai Tonnesen 9-57 d 1851
187 149 Mother Christiane Bertine Nilsen 1852
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 09/09/2013 : 15:28:05
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A candidate, Christian Thomassen, Buhaven, Eide, 1900.
Bapt record #11.
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AntonH
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Posted - 09/09/2013 : 16:40:03
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Those with a name similar to Kristian Thomm in 1910 Census. None under Christ** Number 3 would seem to be the only one with a birth year near the person the poster is searching for, and maybe the same person posted above by Einar.
Municipality Name Occupation Year of birth Place of birth Name of farm
Ålesund Thommasgaard, Kristine Kringstad tjenestepige 07.08.1894 t Øvre Strandgt 19
Roan Thommass., Kristian Gaardbruker selveier Fisker 03.12.1877 t Sumstad
Øyestad Thommass., Kristian offentlig underhold 1882 Eide Solberg Asylbygning
Eidsvoll Thommass., Kristine husstel 05.05.1843 t Råholdt
Trondheim Thommass., Kristine Sydame 17.11.1861 Komagfjord Gyldenløvesgate 23
Vardø Thommessen, Kristian Fisker 29.05.1866 t Krist. IV gate 140
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jkmarler
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jkmarler
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Posted - 09/09/2013 : 17:15:03
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For the querist, have you gotten Christian's marriage record? It might contain a firmer birthdate or other useful information.
What about an obituary for Christian--certainly a tragic event like this would have been covered in the papers? |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 09/09/2013 : 18:51:57
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quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40
Those with a name similar to Kristian Thomm in 1910 Census. None under Christ** Number 3 would seem to be the only one with a birth year near the person the poster is searching for, and maybe the same person posted above by Einar.
Municipality Name Occupation Year of birth Place of birth Name of farm
Ålesund Thommasgaard, Kristine Kringstad tjenestepige 07.08.1894 t Øvre Strandgt 19
Roan Thommass., Kristian Gaardbruker selveier Fisker 03.12.1877 t Sumstad
Øyestad Thommass., Kristian offentlig underhold 1882 Eide Solberg Asylbygning
Eidsvoll Thommass., Kristine husstel 05.05.1843 t Råholdt
Trondheim Thommass., Kristine Sydame 17.11.1861 Komagfjord Gyldenløvesgate 23
Vardø Thommessen, Kristian Fisker 29.05.1866 t Krist. IV gate 140
Some are females 
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 09/09/2013 : 19:24:21
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His wife?
Maud Olivia Fast (1886-1976) (sitting)
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 09/09/2013 : 19:33:44
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| Hmm. Looks like she has a ring on the third finger of her left hand, too. |
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