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jungfigh
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Malta
326 Posts

Posted - 26/10/2013 :  20:04:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Lawbuary,
Thank you for your email which has been passed to me.
Unfortunately we do not keep records of crew, however I have attached one of our infosheets with other places for you to contact.
If you want details of the ship just let me know and I will see if we had a record of her.

Regards,
Anne Cowne
Information Officer, Information Centre
Group Communications

Lloyd's Register Group Services Limited,
71 Fenchurch Street, London EC3M 4BS, UK
T +44 (0)20 7423 2475 F +44 (0)20 7423 2039
E anne.cowne@lr.org W http://www.lr.org
Enhancing the safety of life and property for the benefit of the public and the environment


Lloyd's Register Group Services Limited (Reg. no. 6193893) is a limited company registered in England and Wales. Registered office: 71 Fenchurch Street, London, EC3M 4BS, UK. A subsidiary of Lloyd's Register Group Limited.

Lloyd's Register Group Limited, its affiliates and subsidiaries and their respective officers, employees or agents are, individually and collectively, referred to in this clause as 'Lloyd's Register'. Lloyd's Register assumes no responsibility and shall not be liable to any person for any loss, damage or expense caused by reliance on the information or advice in this document or howsoever provided, unless that person has signed a contract with the relevant Lloyd's Register entity for the provision of this information or advice and in that case any responsibility or liability is exclusively on the terms and conditions set out in that contract.


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From: lloydsreg@lr.org
Sent: 25 October 2013 09:42:01 (UTC) Dublin, Edinburgh, Lisbon, London
To: Enquiry for lr.org
Subject: Request for information from Group web site

DL. ;o) Malta. G.C.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran

Norway
4961 Posts

Posted - 27/10/2013 :  15:15:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

On behalf of Derek Lawburary.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
7765 Posts

Posted - 27/10/2013 :  16:51:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does the Adams in Maud's name relate to the John William Adams who was a witness to the wedding?

Since the banns were read is there any record within the church of those and who the bondsmen/goormsmen for the ceremony might have been?

Edited by - jkmarler on 27/10/2013 16:55:21
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
7765 Posts

Posted - 27/10/2013 :  17:47:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Another thing for the wall:

Looking strictly at the 1900 Norwegian census, exact use of spelling of Cristian, birthyear 1883+/-1 year finds 2:

Cristian Sigfred Opperud b. 1882 Larvik glaspuster son of Fredrick also a glaspuster:
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=6&filnamn=f00707&gardpostnr=2172&personpostnr=9970&merk=9970#ovre

Cristian Karls b. 1884 Sarpsborg father is Karl Clausen a tømmerskriver some kind of lumber related occupation:
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=9&filnamn=f00130&gardpostnr=856&personpostnr=5733&merk=5733#ovre
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 27/10/2013 :  18:21:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A tømmerskriver is an accountant at a lumber storage.


Lumber storage
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jungfigh
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Malta
326 Posts

Posted - 28/10/2013 :  05:28:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg


On behalf of Derek Lawburary.




Thank-you Jan Peter.

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jungfigh
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Malta
326 Posts

Posted - 28/10/2013 :  05:30:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

Does the Adams in Maud's name relate to the John William Adams who was a witness to the wedding?

Since the banns were read is there any record within the church of those and who the bondsmen/goormsmen for the ceremony might have been?



We think it does Jackie.

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jungfigh
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Malta
326 Posts

Posted - 28/10/2013 :  05:35:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg

A tømmerskriver is an accountant at a lumber storage.


Lumber storage



Both very interesting entries Jackie & Jan Peter. Thank-you.

I am awaiting reply from Southampton, England who keep registration of Merchant ships and crews from 1913 to 1939. in UK.
Hoping that Campanula and Cristian are in their records. I will also telephone them this morning.

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jungfigh
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Malta
326 Posts

Posted - 30/10/2013 :  12:27:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have been, nearly continually on the telephone to the Lloyd's Southampton office (e-mail previously sent) who may have the date and place of birth for Cristian. Unfortunately, I've had to dwell a while for another day.

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jungfigh
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Malta
326 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2013 :  06:20:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We have found documentation that shews Cristian's place of birth as Waldon. No date. Is there such a place, village/hamlet in Norway..?

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jungfigh
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Malta
326 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2013 :  07:44:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank-you Jane:

I made a mistake with the spelling. It is WALDEN. It was found on the Mercantile list of deceased seamen, which required nationality and place of birth. Although it shewed Cristian as British at time of death in 1920, his place of birth is shewn Walden. Nothing further.

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Edited by - jungfigh on 01/11/2013 07:45:25
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jkmarler
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USA
7765 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2013 :  12:32:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are few places which start with W in Norway (1 only in my undated KNA book) but plenty of places that start with V. So my guess would be Valden, Volden or the like. So 2 syllables starting with V containing a d. Some of these are parishes, some just places:

Valden
Valders
Velde
Verdal
Volda
Volden


Edited by - jkmarler on 01/11/2013 12:34:56
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Kåarto
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Norway
5861 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2013 :  14:03:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Walden, changed from Valden, Wolden or Volden?
It was a large number of Volden farm (1878 persons) in Norway in 1900, 36 persons on Valden farms, 14 persons on Wolden farms.

Kåre
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jkmarler
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USA
7765 Posts

Posted - 01/11/2013 :  15:09:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thinking making a Norwegian place name into English spelling-- I searched at www.familysearch.org for any person listed with a birthplace of Walden, Norway.

Most interesting is this fellow Ole Pulers b. Walden, Norway living in Kent, England in 1901 1911 my bad:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XWDD-HXP

And then these men in United States:

Ole Andrew Nauvued b. abt 1887 son of Sven S Nauvued
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XJDJ-ZQV

Severt Johannes Siverson b. 14 July 1886:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/29J7-849

#20
Source information: Møre og Romsdal county, Volda in Volda, Parish register (official) nr. 511A08 (1878-1890), Birth and baptism records 1886, page 101.
Permanent pagelink: www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6803&idx_id=6803&uid=ny&idx_side=-112" target="_blank">http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6803&idx_id=6803&uid=ny&idx_side=-112

Matt Olsen b 27 Sept 1889
Specified as born Walden, Gulbransdal, Norway
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K87N-42K

Nels Veflin b. 2 Nov 1890
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K6Z1-NF4

Edwin Semling b. 11 Feb 1887
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K6ZJ-XLZ

Some of the farmnames become surnames of these fellows might indicate a parish in which to look for Cristian.

Edited by - jkmarler on 08/11/2014 12:43:36
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
7765 Posts

Posted - 02/11/2013 :  00:47:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is another one for the wall, way off the wall. #49 Kristian Elias Danielson b 2 Nov 1882 son of Daniel Danielson and Johanne Ananiasdtr, living on Strømme:

Source information: Møre og Romsdal county, Volda in Volda, Parish register copy nr. 511C03 (1864-1884), Birth and baptism records 1882, page 298.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=15961&idx_id=15961&uid=ny&idx_side=-269


The father's occupation of strandsitter is, if I remember correctly, a coast watcher like a lighthouse keeper, but not a carpenter.

#39 Kristian Elias Danielsen confirmation:
Source information: Møre og Romsdal county, Volda in Volda, Parish register copy nr. 511C04 (1884-1903), Confirmation records 1898, page 243.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6477&idx_id=6477&uid=ny&idx_side=-233


Here the father is with many of his family in 1875 on Strømme:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=6&filnamn=f71519&gardpostnr=689&merk=689#ovre

The parents of Kristian Elias marriage #17:
Source information: Møre og Romsdal county, Volda in Volda, Parish register copy nr. 511C03 (1864-1884), Marriage records 1877, page 35.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=15961&idx_id=15961&uid=ny&idx_side=-36

Here is Daniel Strømme in 1900 with occupation defined as stenarbeider and snedker (carpenter) , Kristian is not at home,
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=2&filnamn=f01519&gardpostnr=494&merk=494#ovre

Here is Daniel Strømme & family in 1910:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01036754002642

Edited by - jkmarler on 02/11/2013 03:57:42
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