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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 05/01/2014 : 19:46:32
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Originally posted by jkmarler
When I look at the 2 recaps, the basic kernel of truth is that the 2 tales are very similar. The one sure thing is Volden, and his first name is Kristian /Cristian; age is approximately correct, tale of his demise is very similar and in a general sense the record in Norway vanishes about the same time the record in England begins.
Bingo
am thinkin aboot yer man Cristain that hung aboot Ramsgay an all an may be its the same wan.
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 05/01/2014 : 20:44:54
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Hi Derek, thanks. Here's what I get: Not Found. The requested URL /TOMPSON-MATSON was not found on this server. But as I say, when I copy and paste those same words into Google search bar, I get prompted to go to the same document I myself posted earlier. It doesn't include the middle name William. Will you double check?
If the middle name William appears for Christian, I wonder why, what is the source? Since you just discovered it yourself, I can imagine you don't yet have the answer to that...
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
326 Posts |
Posted - 05/01/2014 : 20:49:24
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Originally posted by JaneC
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Originally posted by JaneC
Cristian's name is here given as Christain Thromme Tomsen.
http://view.officeapps.live.com/op/view.aspx?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.franktompson.talktalk.net%2FTOMPSON-MATSON%2520FAMILY%2520TREE.doc
The name on this family tree, posted on page 28 of this thread, is "Christain Thromme Tomsen (7)." Footnote (7) says "Name still uncertain." I believe this is Frank's tree? I see no "Christain William" and the search tool does not find one.
The link you posted just now does not work for me Derek, so I am sorry to say I can't check it. What gives? Do you have a later, more recent version of the same tree? Or ....?
I did paste the following into Google Search...
http://www.franktompson.talktalk.net/TOMPSON-MATSON FAMILY TREE.doc
...which replicates the url you've given, and it takes me to the version of the tree I posted, with no "Christain William."
If the name "William" appears on the family tree you have posted, what is the source of the name "William"? In the extensive documents and discussion posted in this thread, I can't find that the name "William" has ever before appeared.
Jackie, Jane: Cut and paste the link below into the URL. It will open into a word document. Click on page lay out then size and select A4.
(I did this to increase font size to be more readable) There adjacent to Maud fast you will note M Christane WILLAM Thromme. I haven't contacted Cousin Frank as yet to establish why the Family Tree reflects as such.
http://www.franktompson.talktalk.net/TOMPSON-MATSON FAMILY TREE |
DL. ;o) Malta. G.C. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 05/01/2014 : 20:56:07
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Okay, thanks Derek. From my interpretation of the situation, the names get mashed together when resizing in that way.
There's a William Matson (wife Jane Bushell) who is the father of a William and a John. Cristain's name gets mingled together with those names. I'll predict Frank will verify he did not intend for Cristain's name to appear that way, and there is no middle name of William. |
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
326 Posts |
Posted - 05/01/2014 : 20:58:31
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| Thanks for that Jane...Understandable. |
DL. ;o) Malta. G.C. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 05/01/2014 : 21:00:05
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You bet.
Urgghhh computers and the internet. So amazing, so incredibly useful - but at times all the variations in the technology tend to trip us up. |
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FrankTompson
Starting member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/01/2014 : 23:46:06
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Hi folks,
I think something has got misconstrued due to a re-sizing/formatting/whatever during download. There is, indeed, in my family tree version no 'William' attached to Cristian's name. For clarification attached is Cristian's side of my family tree in image format.
Cheers,
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 06/01/2014 : 00:15:53
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
326 Posts |
Posted - 06/01/2014 : 06:30:21
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Originally posted by FrankTompson
Hi folks,
I think something has got misconstrued due to a re-sizing/formatting/whatever during download. There is, indeed, in my family tree version no 'William' attached to Cristian's name. For clarification attached is Cristian's side of my family tree in image format.
Cheers,
Frank
Thank-you Frank. |
DL. ;o) Malta. G.C. |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 06/01/2014 : 11:26:56
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Originally posted by Kåarto
[quote][i]Volden municipality changed to Volda 1918.
Still working with the word LAUDNOR.
Kåre
We will probably never find out what LAUDNOR means, but if it took many years before the word was written down from where Christian had stated he came from,it may have been a way to emphasize that he came from "LANGT NOR" pronunced "LANGT NOR" which means FAR NORTH.
Volda is "far north" from UK.
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
326 Posts |
Posted - 06/01/2014 : 11:54:50
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Thank-you Kåre,
I know we will get there.
Cousin Frank and I have spoken about going along the DNA route. He being a male from the Tomson side would have a better lineage than me, from the female Tomson side.
Inquiries in hand to establish our best Norwegian 'possible relative' for control purposes. |
DL. ;o) Malta. G.C. |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 06/01/2014 : 14:02:55
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DNA never lies and is used more and more in genealogy.
In certain parts in England there have been projects to determine what proportion of the population that orginated from the Vikings.
I believe that the longest lasting topic of this forum will have a happy ending
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 06/01/2014 : 18:15:36
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Back in an edit
You are investigating all this, Derek, but for the record I'll post the quick facts. Only males carry Y-DNA (males are XY, females are XX), so one must be a son of a son of a son (and so on) to carry a male ancestor's Y-DNA. If a son of a son of Daniel Danielsen Strømme cannot be found, then one could consider seeking a male-line descendant of Daniel's father. Wishing you luck with this! |
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jungfigh
Senior member
Malta
326 Posts |
Posted - 06/01/2014 : 21:03:26
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Originally posted by JaneC
You are investigating all this, Derek, but for the record I'll post the quick facts. Only males carry Y-DNA (males are XY, females are XX), so one must be a son of a son of a son (and so on) to carry a male ancestor's Y-DNA. The following website (see link) recommends testing for 67 markers.
"For those who tested a maximum of 67 markers:
Less than 60/67 – the two participants probably do not share a recent common ancestor.
60/67 and 61/67 - the two participants may share a common ancestor from the early days ...Increase to 111 markers and re-evaluate.
62/67 and better - researchers consider these to be a match - indicating a recent shared common ancestor."
Link:
http://www.worldfamilies.net/matches#Mean
If a son of a son of Daniel Danielsen Strømme cannot be found, then one could consider seeking a male-line descendant of Daniel's father.
Phew...some reading there Jane.
Than-you so much for your input. |
DL. ;o) Malta. G.C. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 08/01/2014 : 01:13:14
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There is a very beautiful picture website of Straumshamn, apparently put together by a local person?
www.straumshamn.com
I took the liberty of translating a paragraph or so from the site at Google translate:
"Kilsfjord is a fjord in Volda municipality in Møre og Romsdal. It's a side inlet of Voldsfjorden and is about three kilometers long. The inner part of the fjord, which is also called Kilspollen, a poll by a narrow channel at Straum harbor. Outside Straum harbor called open for most Botnavika. Fjord sides are very high and steep, with mountains over 1000 meters high. European route 39 runs along the western side of the bay, while highway 651 runs on the east side and continuing into Austefjorden. County road 651 (Fv651) runs between Volda and,,,,,"
Its a very beautiful place to be from. |
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