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jkmarler
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David Yaw
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United Kingdom
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 Posted - 23/09/2013 : 20:43:13
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Ellis Island record 1916 for an Edith Tinniswood, actress, age 26, journeying from Liverpool to New York, final destination Los Angeles, California, USA; going to sister Evelyn Tinniswood in Los Angeles; nearest relative in England is George Tinniswood, brother.
O. T. Tønnevold had a shipping firm.
George Alfred Tinniswood aged 35 and single is an engine fitter, boarding with Thomas Jones & wife in Birkenhead. He is born Norway, and "British by parentage". I guess his/their British parents must have been living in Norway at the time of his and Edith's birth.
Neither Edith nor George appear in the 1901 UK census
I can't find a Tinniswood or Tonnevold in the 1900 Norwegian census - maybe someone with better skills in interrogating Digitalarkivet can succeed. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 23/09/2013 : 20:51:18
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George Alfred Tinniswood is born in England by parents Robert John Tinniswood & Mary Anderson Tinniswood
Census-1891 shows the family living in Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England.
Robert listed as born abt 1813 in Cumberland, England
Only Edith are listed as born in Norway. I think she could be born while the family was on a trip to Norway.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 23/09/2013 : 21:32:20
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Originally posted by David Yaw
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Neither Edith nor George appear in the 1901 UK census
Here is Edith Tinniswood birthplace Norway in 1901 but she is a British subject:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X9G7-X32 |
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jkmarler
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 23/09/2013 : 22:27:44
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Tom listed as customs official...
Tromø Ned is the island Tromøy outside Arendal, Aust Agder. (Former Nedenes county).
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jkmarler
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David Yaw
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 23/09/2013 : 22:36:19
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Originally posted by jkmarler
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Originally posted by David Yaw
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Neither Edith nor George appear in the 1901 UK census
Here is Edith Tinniswood birthplace Norway in 1901 but she is a British subject:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X9G7-X32
Following Jan Peter's find, I traced George A and Edith back through the 1891 and 1881 UK census.
George is 1 or 2 years older than Edith, and he is recorded as born in the Bury/St Helens area of Lancashire.
Edith is definitely shown as born in Norway.
In 1881, their father Robert (jr) is a soapmaker, born Newcastle. He is a widower, so George & Edith's natural mother has died by then. Robert's father Robert Sr is living with them.
In 1891, their father has died, ánd they are living with their step-mother Lucy, who is Robert's second wife - she is a widow, and he has evidently died recently as they have a half-brother Robert aged 2. Robert Sr, retired chemical manufacturer is also living with them.
Maybe Edith was born in Norway while her parents where their on some business related visit or stay.
But out of all of this, doesn't seem top be a clear link to our friend Christian in Norway or Kent |
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David Yaw
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Posted - 23/09/2013 : 22:51:30
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Originally posted by jwiborg
Tom listed as customs official...
Tromø Ned is the island Tromøy outside Arendal, Aust Agder. (Former Nedenes county).
Jan Peter
His father's name in full is listed as Tom Adolf ... And while with a stretch of the imagination, it might be tempting to suppose this could have been mis-transcribed phonetically on the English marriage record as "Donald", Christian could read & write - he signed the certificate - so we could suppose he would spot this error. And his father's occupation is given as carpenter, not customs official. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 23/09/2013 : 23:10:36
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Do we really know that in 1903 Cristian actually could read and write English? Your signature is the same in English or Norwegian.
But the Kristian Trommestad is probably not a really good match--birthdate / year 1885, last name Trommestad vs Trom/Tromm, father's name Donald (of which there are virtually none in Norway),
The really promising Cristian s have probably already been looked at. What's happening now is to try to find the "average" of all the clues from long ago, place name Lauden Vordner, Trom, etc.etc, pending any further information from England. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 23/09/2013 : 23:23:03
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Lauden Vordner....
Lauden... Rands?
Vordner... fjorden?
Randsfjorden? |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 24/09/2013 : 00:19:27
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Worth a tray
There were 20 Trommestad farms on the island Hisøy just outside Arendal town in 1900, seven of the persons used the Christen-Christensen name.
Arendal Mai. 27. 1882 a Christen Masilius was born. Parents; merchant Daniel Torgrimsen and Johanne Christine Madssen #27
Cant find any of them in the 1900 census for Norway, hoping for a connection to Trommestad.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 24/09/2013 : 00:36:48
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Originally posted by Kåarto
Arendal Mai. 27. 1882 a Christen Masilius was born. Parents; merchant Daniel Torgrimsen and Johanne Christine Madssen #27
Cant find any of them in the 1900 census for Norway, hoping for a connection to Trommestad.
Kåre
Siblings:
Thalette Birgithe 1862
Bertha Mathilde 1864
Theodora Mathilde 1866
Laura Christine 1869
Salve Ingvald 1871
Erika Karan 1874 North Carolina, Deaths, 1931-1994
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jwiborg
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Posted - 24/09/2013 : 00:47:13
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Worth mentioning is that the coastal part of this area of Norway (Arendal-Grimstad) had big business with England at that time, exporting timber and ice to London.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 24/09/2013 : 00:53:33
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Places in Norway containing "fjord" (ref census-1900):
aafjord
aafjorden
arnefjord
baldsfjord
balsfjord
balsfjorden
battenfjord
battenfjorden
bøfjord
bøfjorden
eidfjord
eidsfjord
eikefjord
eiridsfjord
ekefjord
eresfjord
erfjord
eridsfjord
erisfjord
flekefjord
flekkefjord
flækkefjord
frafjord
hjørendfjord
hjøringfjord
hjørundfjord
hjørungfjord
hogsfjord
høgsfjord
høksfjord
isfjorden
kaafjord
kaafjorden
kjøllefjord
kvedfjord
kvefjord
kvefjords
kvædfjord
kvæfjord
langfjord
madsfjorden
masfjord
masfjorden
masfjordens
matsfjorden
nordfjord
nordfjordeid
nordfjordeide
nordfjordeidet
norfjord
persfjord
ramfjord
randsfjord
sandefjord
sigerfjord
syltefjord
syndfjord
søndfjord
sønfjord
sørfjord
sørfjorden
tysfjord
tysfjorden
ulfsfjorden
valsøfjord
valsøfjorden
velfjord
velfjorden
åfjorden
øksfjord
øxfjord
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