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jkmarler
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jwiborg
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 24/09/2013 : 18:09:59
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Originally posted by jwiborg
Places in Norway containing "fjord" (ref census-1900):
aafjorden
baldsfjord
balsfjord
balsfjorden
battenfjord
battenfjorden
bøfjorden
flekefjord
flekkefjord
flækkefjord
hjørendfjord
hjøringfjord
hjørundfjord
hjørungfjord
høksfjord
isfjorden
kaafjorden
kjøllefjord
langfjord
madsfjorden
masfjorden
masfjordens
matsfjorden
nordfjordeid
nordfjordeide
nordfjordeidet
ramfjord
randsfjord
sandefjord
syltefjord
søndfjord
sørfjorden
tysfjorden
ulfsfjorden
valsøfjord
valsøfjorden
velfjord
velfjorden
There is also a parish Leirfjord created from Alstahaug. Above I left in those with an L or d or t in the first syllable and those spellings with the article en or et at the end. |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 24/09/2013 : 20:06:23
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Originally posted by jkmarler
There is also a parish Leirfjord created from Alstahaug. Above I left in those with an L or d or t in the first syllable and those spellings with the article en or et at the end.
Leirfjord (Clay-fjord)
I remember in the 70s on a very rainy day before the road along Leirfjord got asphalt with clay fare up on the tires.
If we had slowed the speed or the car had stopped we had not come any further without help 
Kåre
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jungfigh
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Posted - 25/09/2013 : 11:13:20
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Originally posted by David Yaw
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Originally posted by jwiborg
These are the possibilities I found, at first glance. Have not checked the 1910 census to rule them out...
1) Kristian Tomasen, Dayworker, born 1883 Nesj Hedemarken, residence Gjøvik, Oppland
2) Thomas Christian Thomassen, Mechanical apprentice, born 1883, residence Kristiansand, Vest-Agder
3) Kristen Tomassen, Farm work, born 1884, residence Selbu, Sør-Trøndelag IN NORWAY 1910
4) Ole Kristian Tomassen, Tailor apprentice, born 1883, reidence Grong, Nord-Trøndelag
5) Theodor Kristian Tomassen, Farm work, born 1884, residence Nord-Rana, Nordland
6) Kristian Tomassen, Mechanical work, born 1882 Bodø Nordland, residece Skjerstad, Nordland
Jan Peter
Derek, is it useful to consider how and when Christian ended up in Ramsgate and marrying there ?? It's not a place like say Hull or Newcastle with obvious Norwegian connections. JKMarler's earlier post on the Norwegian census gives Christian's occupation as "Kok paa Dampskip", which I guess means "cook on a steamship" - at least a seaman. I looked to see if the there are "sjomannsroller" seaman's records for Bergen, but found none.
He doesn't appear in the 1901 UK census, and so presumably came between then and a few months (weeks even ??) before his marriage in third quarter 1903. Have you checked to see if their marriage was preceded by banns read in the church there ?? Just might have an address. If not, hopefully the marriage certificate will have it,as well as name of his father.
A long shot maybe. The 1901 UK census has a Norwegian vessel in port of Ramsgate on the night the census was taken, 31 March 1901. Record difficult to read, but looks like she was the Norwegian registered sailing ship "Liv", home port "Lausing", which I can't find on any map. What is clear is that the master was Ole Christian Andreassen, with an all Norwegian crew. Local newspaper records often published details of vessels arriving and leaving port, so a search might give a clue whether this was a one-off voyage or part of a regular route or indeed other vessels making this call. Maybe our Norwegian friends can trace either the vessel or master, just might give a clue as to its/his origins..
Sorry for the late reply David. I have considered what you mention. At that time although Ramsgate was not a 'major' port she had a herring fleet of over 100 vessels. Even when I was a boy some 65 years ago there were still about 6 or so left. The herring had been overfished.
I'm still hankering that the Donald Tompson I turned up (the Royal Marine) was possibly Christian's father. Christian may have travelled to Ramsgate with, or to find his Dad, and ended up a fisherman, locally. I try to keep an open mind on this sort of thing but 'gut feelings' can't be ignored. |
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jungfigh
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Posted - 25/09/2013 : 11:15:31
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| Although I've been 'absent' for a few days ( telephoning English Parishes, etc.) I have kept abreast of all postings. I sincerely thank all of you for your on-going assistance. |
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David Yaw
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Posted - 25/09/2013 : 13:45:05
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Originally posted by jungfigh
Another link to the loss of Campanula with another named crew member
http://www.ramsgatehistory.com/forum/index.php?topic=541.0
Derek, I noticed in the detail of this site about Ramsgate's history, there is a reference to the Isle Of Thanet Ice Company - it states they regularly imported supplies of ice from Norway.
The National Archives Kew have a record of the Board of Trade leasing land in Ramsgate Harbour to the ice in 1893, so their ice houses were probably built and operational by say 1895.
Is this what brought Christian to Ramsgate - working on a vessel transporting ice ??
Would that help our Norwegian friends narrow down the port he might have sailed from - or were there lots of Norwegian ports and vessels in the ice export trade ?? |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 25/09/2013 : 17:05:34
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His last name was changed from Tromm to Tompson. Perhaps it was changed from "Strommen" to Tromm to Tompson. In Norway the most common spelling of Strommen would be Strømmen. Here is Kristian Strommen onboard vessel b. 1883:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XSF3-3D5 |
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David Yaw
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Posted - 25/09/2013 : 19:45:07
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Originally posted by jkmarler
His last name was changed from Tromm to Tompson. Perhaps it was changed from "Strommen" to Tromm to Tompson. In Norway the most common spelling of Strommen would be Strømmen. Here is Kristian Strommen onboard vessel b. 1883:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XSF3-3D5
Jackie, good find.
Information submitted by the master with the census record of the crew shows the Rapid (ship's official number 29578) was a sailing vessel of about 177 tons. She was registered in Shoreham - this is a small port near Brighton in Sussex, and she was engaged in the coastal trade. The port of Ramsgate is only around 150 km to the east.
Kristian aged 18 is the only Norwegian in the crew of six, the rest being English. By the way the master of the Rapid H J Digby was born in Whitstable, Kent - its on the north Kent coast and only 50 km or so from Ramsgate.
Circumstantially, looks like a good match - with this probable surname of Strommen, can we validate further by finding him in Norway in 1900 census, or his birth/baptism in 1883 ??.
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jkmarler
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jungfigh
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Malta
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Posted - 26/09/2013 : 09:49:20
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Originally posted by jkmarler
His last name was changed from Tromm to Tompson. Perhaps it was changed from "Strommen" to Tromm to Tompson. In Norway the most common spelling of Strommen would be Strømmen. Here is Kristian Strommen onboard vessel b. 1883:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XSF3-3D5
Amazing find Jackie. I can see where my Aunt recorded the name Tromm from encased within the surname Strommen. The age fits too.
And David's posting of the Ice Ship is a great possibility.
The quest continues. Thank-you so much. |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 26/09/2013 : 16:21:12
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Derek, while the search continues; I hope you are pursuing the British records for Christians date/place of birth.
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jungfigh
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Posted - 26/09/2013 : 16:54:13
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Good afternoon Jan Peter,
Yes, that avenue is being investigated.
sincerely.
Derek.. |
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