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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 17/03/2007 : 16:53:55
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 17/03/2007 : 18:58:11
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Jan Peter,
you are right about Hoff in Sandsvær, Kongsberg was a blind track.In this case it was for me more a disadvantage to live in Kongsberg and be born in Sandsvær when "strange" names" is coming up, the Hoff name pointed out Rollag in Numedal for me since i never heard of Hoff in Sandsvær. Here is from Sandsværs Historie b. V: Karen Olette Helgesdatter Hoff was born on Farm Hovstua (Hoff) in local parish Efteløt in Sandsvær, present Kongsberg municipality on Jan. 21. 1859 as Maren Olette Helgesdatter (bap. oct. 5. 1872 as Karen Olette Helgsdatter Hovsmoen), daughter of Helge Sjulsen Bømoen 1803-1883 and Johanne Marie Andreasdatter Dalseie 1816-1881. Helge was son of Sjul Helgesen Hov 1773-1837, married as a National soldier in 1801 to Kirsti Nilsdatter Wulfsberg 1769-1838. Karen Olette married Halvor O. Sagfossen (Saw mill falls) b. 1857 in Sande municipality in Vestfold County, both employeed as workers on farm Kjørstad in Sandsvær in 1882, they emigrated next year to USA and farm Hovslien was taken over by her one year older sister Helene and her husband Ole Knutsen Gåserudplass.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 17/03/2007 : 19:31:43
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Thanks!
Then there's no doubt that this is the right girl... 
I've also seen the parishrecords, and the birthdate reads 29/1. I agree that her name at the christening looks like Maren Olette, but there's no doubt that this is the right girl, when you look at the parents.
Oct. 5. 1872 must ne her confirmation date?
So then we have the last person in this puzzle also then, Hal Olson from Kongsberg must be Halvor Olsen Sagfossen b. 1857 in Sande, Vestfold. Where is he in census-1865?
Have not found their emigrationrecords from 1883....
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 17/03/2007 : 20:33:27
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They emigrated from Kristiania/Oslo 3 days after Whit Monday, on Norway's National Day Thursday 17th of May 1883:
Halvor Olsen (25), from Sandsvær, destination Calmar. (Prob. Calmar in Winneshiek County, Iowa)
Olette Olsen (24) from Sandsvær, destination Calmar.
Olette is registered together with their 8 month old son Ole Olsen.
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Edited by - jwiborg on 17/03/2007 21:45:37 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 17/03/2007 : 21:45:33
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Halvor is hard to find in 1865 census. Church record 1878-1906, page 313, Efteløt parish in Sandsvær, Couple nr 5: Halvor Olsen married Maren Bolette Hogfsmoen on Mai 30. 1882 as Halvor Olsen Kjørstad Bap. in Sande in1872, son of Husmand/Cotter Ole Olsen. Another possibility is Saude (in Telemark) instead of Sande? http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=4200&uid=ny&idx_side=212
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Kåarto
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 17/03/2007 : 22:00:25
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Yes, Halvor Olsen is from Saude (Sauherad) in Telemark, not Sande in Vestfold!
Christening record
Census 1865
His parents are Ole Olsen Lommerud & Anne Jacobsdatter Slettems
Note: Lommerud & Slettems are farmnames.
Jan Peter
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 17/03/2007 : 22:04:59
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Halvor Olsen is born 07-Dec-1857, not 1858.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 17/03/2007 : 22:33:58
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1) Hommersand in Hetland, Rogaland. Anna Christine Haaversen.(?)
2) Ims in Høle, Rogaland. Jonas Olsen.
3) Lommerud in Sauherad, Telemark. Halvor Olsen.
4) Hoff in Sandsvær, Buskerud. Karen Olette Helgesdatter.
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 17/03/2007 : 23:28:54
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Wow, this is great.
Lommerud (under which farm?) is in the Klevar area in Sauherad which means the South-Eastern part of lake Heddalsvannet at Nautsund bridge. There are 5 Bygdebooks from this area (unfortunaly Statsarkivet is closed now) written by Birger Kirkeby: Sauherad Gards og ættehistorie, likely more info about Halvor Olsen and his parents exist in one of these books.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 17/03/2007 : 23:54:04
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Lommerud is an old settlement under the Klevar farm in Sauherad.
Located ab 1km north-west of the Klevar Nordre farm. (1,5km west of the Nautsund bridge)
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 18/03/2007 : 03:18:43
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Meanwhile back in Rogaland I think I've found Anna Christine who married Jonas O. Ims/Imes.
My connection to the US censuses came back up and the 1900 US census for Yellow Medicine Co. Minnesota clearly lists that she was born in April 1854 in Norway and she immigrated in 1884 about a year before she and Jonas married. Taking Jan Peter's lead about the location of Hommersand I checked the scanned parish records for Frue in Hetland for April of 1854. See record number 73 -
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1597&idx_id=1597&uid=ny&idx_side=-60
In Scott's first reading of that pedigree sheet he thought her surname started with an M - maybe he actually could see it better than we could in the small scan - perhaps she had used her father's patronymic in America (many young Norwegian emigrants did!). She is born on the farm Eltervåg. Eltervåg is in HOMMERSAND school district.
But by the 1865 census her family lives on a farm listed as Holen in Hetland (perhaps just a plass name?) - HOMMERSAND school district. Her father's patronymic was Mauritzen and we can see by his status that the family might move more frequently than some others.
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=13&filnamn=f61126&gardpostnr=194&sokefelt=skjul
One of the Ims children was named Syver - perhaps for Anna Christine's younger brother ? By 1900 she'd already lost a child or two - so perhaps some other names from her family had already been used, but the child(ren) had died.
I'm going to go back to browse around the US censuses for Norwegians in Yellow Medicine Co. Minnesota. If I learn anything interesting I'll report here.
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 18/03/2007 : 04:13:38
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| The 1910 US census for Yellow Medicine Co. Anna Christine has already died - but her oldest son still lives at home with Jonas and siblings and lists his name as what appears to read Ole Christianus Ims. The handwriting is difficult and I'm not completely sure of the ending for what looks like Christianus. |
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Thiassi
Starting member
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Posted - 18/03/2007 : 04:17:01
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Originally posted by Hopkins
Are you in Texas???
I live in California now, but my family still lives in the Dallas area. |
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Kåarto
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Looking for Olson, Imes, Hoff, Mauersen
