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unclarity
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USA
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Posted - 10/05/2008 :  08:26:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My gggrandfather and gggrandmother came from Norway in 1870 according to census.
1870 US census has this info;
Andrew PETERSON , Neshonoe township, LaCrosse,WI, b.Norway
Beret PETERSON , Neshonoe township, LaCrosse,WI, b.Norway
Children:
Clara PETERSON , Neshonoe township, LaCrosse,WI, b.Norway
Inka or Jaka? (female) PETERSON , Neshonoe township, LaCrosse,WI, b.Norway
Ole PETERSON , Neshonoe township, LaCrosse,WI, b.Wisconsin
1900 US census;
Andrew PETERSON, Hamilton township, LaCrosse,WI, b. September 1830
Bertha PETERSON, Hamilton township, LaCrosse,WI, b. June 1834
Ole PETERSON, Hamilton township, LaCrosse,WI, b. November 1869

I have Ole Jorgen Peterson's obit and he lived from Nov.11,1869 to Feb.15,1955.
It also states that he was born to Andres and Beret LARSON PETERSON.

The name of Peterson may have been spelled PEDERSEN as it looks like Ole
may have signed some papers that way.

I have searched passenger lists, immigration records, and other sources.
I have not been able to find any info on this family. I am hoping to discover where in Norway
they came from. Maybe a farm name or parents names. Maybe siblings names.
I have hit a dead end so any new information would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance for any help.

jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran

Norway
3826 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2008 :  17:46:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
I did a quick search in the Norwegian 1865-census, but couldn't find them...

Since Ole Jorgen is born in Wis., the family must have emigrated in 1869...?
Have you located them in the 1880-census? And do you know when the girls are born?

Andrew would be Anders or Andreas in Norway. Lastname would be Pedersen or Petersen.

His wife Beret/Bertha would be Beret(h), Berit(h), Bertha or Berthe. Her lastname looks to be Larsen or Larsdatter, ie. her father must have been named Lars.

Clara would be Clara or Klara in Norway. Her lastname in Norway would be Andersdatter or Andreasdatter, since she was the daughter of Andrew.

Inka looks to be Inga. Lastname would be Andersdatter or Andreasdatter. The ending -datter is often abbreviated dtr or dr.

Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 10/05/2008 17:49:03
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Lester Hanson
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USA
567 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2008 :  19:25:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Andrew and Beret can be found in the 1880, 1900,1905 Wisconsin census, and the 1910 Census.

The immigration dates for both of them were 1870, and Papers were applied for citizenship. Bertha M. had 6 children, with 3 living, per the 1900 census. For the 1910 census she has had 3 children, with 3 living.

The name Inka is probably Alvin M. per the 1910 census. His age was given as 44, still single. Living with Andrew and Bertha.

The 1900 census indicates they were married for 34 years(at least 39), which must be a mistake. There daughter Clara was born about 1861, so they should have been married before her birth.

Thus they should appear togather in the 1865 census, but i didn't have any luck with the names we were given. If we could get the Fylke, that would be a big help.

Les

PS: Inka and Alvin must be two different children. Inka was listed as a female in the 1870 census. A poser!!


Edited by - Lester Hanson on 10/05/2008 19:30:26
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jwiborg
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Norway
3826 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2008 :  19:51:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lester Hanson

Andrew and Beret can be found in the 1880, 1900,1905 Wisconsin census, and the 1910 Census.
Les
You've been around for some time Les, so you should know the importance of giving links..., where did you find them in the 1880-census?

Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 10/05/2008 19:51:47
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 10/05/2008 :  20:10:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Perhaps a shot in the dark.
Norway 1865:
I ended up with 32 Anders/Andreas Pedersen born 1830.

I included Bereth, Beret and Berit Larsdatter born 1834 and ended up with two persons;
Beret Larsdatter in Tingvold parish in Møre and Romsdal County and Bereth Larsdatter in Skogn parish in Nord Trøndelag County.

I also made a search for Berthe/Bertha Larsdatter born 1834 and found six persons in the 1865 census, all married to another person.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 10/05/2008 20:24:29
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Lester Hanson
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USA
567 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2008 :  20:53:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Les[/quote]You've been around for some time Les, so you should know the importance of giving links..., where did you find them in the 1880-census?

Jan Peter
[/quote]

Brain to keyboard error for 1880. I tried 1880, but Ancestry.com has quit working for me. The 1870 census was a census page search as they"ve transcribed his last name wrong. There is no Neshonoe township in 1880. I think it has been replaced with Hamilton. I'll try Heritage Quest.

Les

PS: Here is the 1880 census page. They are the last entry. Willie and Andrew are on the next page.1880
Not sure if this link will time out and disappear. Two sons, Willie age 10, and Andrew age 5 were born in Wisconsin.

Oh, Ancestry.com will not allow hyperlinking. I can't even save their images to my computer. They think its a Vista conflict which the big service pack may fix.

Edited by - Lester Hanson on 11/05/2008 03:08:13
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jwiborg
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Norway
3826 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2008 :  21:27:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
With children Willie and Andrew??? 1880-census

Where is Clara, Inka and Ole Jorgen??
The girls might have moved out of the nest, but O.J. would be only 10 years old...

Jan Peter
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Lester Hanson
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USA
567 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2008 :  23:23:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ancestry.com is working again for me. Here is what I can print out and save the image of for 1870.

1870 United States Federal Census
Name: Andrews Peterson
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Age in 1870: 30
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1870: Neshonoe, La Crosse, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Male
Post Office: West Salem
Household Members: Name Age
Andrews Peterson 30
Berett a Peterson 30
Clara Peterson 9
Jaka Peterson 5
Ole Peterson 1

I had my search set for exact matches, that's why I couldn't find them.

Les


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unclarity
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USA
36 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2008 :  23:25:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oops, sorry... the 1870 Census lists Andrew age 30, Berett age 30, Clara age 9, b:1861
and Inka? age 5. b:1865



The 1880 census that is posted is the correct family as I just found out that Andres and Beret had another son (younger than Ole) named Andrew B. Peterson. I don't know where the other children were disburst to that year, but it is them.

thanks everyone for trying to help!!!!!!


Kara
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
3324 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2008 :  00:15:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

What church did this family belong to, any mention in Ole's obit?

Here is a Wisconsin website that might be useful:

http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/vitalrecords/

Also first names may be altered. I've seen Ole become William before; Birgit / Berit become Betsy and so on...

Jackie M.
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unclarity
Junior member

USA
36 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2008 :  00:46:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As far as I can tell, the whole family belonged to Bells Coulee Luthern Church near Mindoro,WI.

I have also managed to track down the Obit for Andrew B. Peterson. I sent for it and the person who located it at the La Crosse Library for was kind enough to email me the highlights, here they are;

He died on January 19, 1942.

He was born August 27, 1874 in Wet Coulee, in Hamilton township, La
Crosse County. His parents were Anders and Beret Peterson.

He was survived by one brother, O.J. Peterson of Melrose, Wis. and two
aunts, Mrs. Christine Larson and Mrs. Lorenzo Mathison of Canton, South
Dakota. (It's not clear if Mrs. Christine Larson was also from Canton,
S.D., but I showed it exactly as it appeared in the obituary).

Kara
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Lester Hanson
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USA
567 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2008 :  01:22:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here are Andrew and Bertha living with their son Andrew in the 1905 Wisconsin census.
Wisconsin State Censuses, 1895 and 1905
Name: Alvin Peterson
Census Date: 1 Jun 1905
Residence County: Lafayette
Residence State: Wisconsin
Locality: Argyle
Birth Location: Norway
Marital Status: Single
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Race: White
Relation: Head
Father's Name: Andrew
Mother's Name: Bertha

Household Members: Name Age
Alvin Peterson 38
Andrew Peterson 79
Bertha Peterson 83

They have moved a little bit.

Les



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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
3324 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2008 :  01:49:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

Here is a possibility from 1865 Norway census

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=34&filnamn=f61824&gardpostnr=158&personpostnr=1005&merk=1005#ovre

Also Bells Cooley church was started in 1901, must have belonged to a different congregation earlier...

Here is the couple's marriage. Please note her father's name is Ole Jorgen Larson! (Vefsen/Mosjoen parish register)

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?show=304&uid=27292&urnread_imagesize=medium&hode=nei&ls=1

Then their leaving in 1866 for America also Vefsen/Mosjoen

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2551&uid=ny&idx_side=-323

Another interesting coincidence, there is a Lorentse in Ole J. Larson's household on the same farm given as Bereth Lucie's birthplace:

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=23&filnamn=f61824&gardpostnr=346&personpostnr=2289&merk=2289#ovre

So this family has a father's name match, mother's name match (if you consider her father's patronymic to be hers as it would be in U.S.), first child name match, leaving at the correct time, name match of son Ole Jorgen Peterson to grandfather & a possible Lorenzo; ages are approximately correct....

All needs to be confirmed in church records etc. here...

Jackie

Edited by - jkmarler on 11/05/2008 04:45:19
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Lester Hanson
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USA
567 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2008 :  02:13:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
unclarity,

I was wondering if Alvin Peterson is a new member for your family?
He has married an Anna per the 1920 census.

1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Alvin Peterson
Home in 1920: Argyle, Lafayette, Wisconsin
Age: 54 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Anna
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of Immigration: 1870
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes

Household Members: Name Age
Alvin Peterson 54
Anna Peterson 44

They are living on Grant St.

Les



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Lester Hanson
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USA
567 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2008 :  02:30:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There seems to be another new member of the family. Annie, born about 1854 in Norway. She is living with Alvin and Anna in the 1930 census. Her last name is Wedner. Ancestry.com is having problems again. I can't open the actual census form.

Here is what I can post:
1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Annie Wedner (Probably a widow)
Home in 1930: Argyle, Lafayette, Wisconsin
Age: 76
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Sister
Race: White

Household Members: Name Age
Alvin M Peterson 65
Anna M Peterson 55
Annie Wedner 76
Mable Jacobson 31 (A lodger)

unclarity, were you aware of Annie?

Les

PS: I finally got to see the census form. Alvin married at the age of 48, and Anna his wife was 38.
Alvin and Annie his sister, (she is a widow) immigrated in 1869, and both have been Naturalized.

Dooesn't help much for the Norway search. Maybe these two came first. Alvin was too young to travel alone.

Edited by - Lester Hanson on 11/05/2008 05:13:05
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unclarity
Junior member

USA
36 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2008 :  04:28:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jackie

I cannot get the first 2 links to open, but your info does sound right

Les,

I am not aware of Annie or Alvin, but I am going to check it out.

and thank you all for helping!!!

Kara
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