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eibache
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Posted - 29/10/2009 :  07:48:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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I was hoping maybe you or another researcher could translate what is written after the name of the father, Theodor Andreas Helgesen. I am wondering if there is anything significant in the text.
- if I read you right an answer to your question is still missing.
Fredrik Theodor was a child born out of wedlock since he was born before the parents were married, Sept 12 1894. His father Theodor Andreas Helgesen was at the time of the baptism a mechanical worker at the railway workshop in Sulitjelma (where there was a mining industry). The mother was Lovise Marie née Reese, daughter of Fredrik Wilhelm Reese.
Lovise Helgesen was a widow living with her father and son Fredrik in 1900

Einar
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 29/10/2009 :  17:13:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Kåre

Here is the civil marriage record for Lovise Reese and Theodore Helgesen ....#28 (Civil Marriage Record) ....

Does the text give any additional information on Theodore Helgesen? Eibach was able to determine that he was working in a mine in Nordland about this time. Is that where he is from originally I wonder?

Erik.

Thank you.

Erik


Edited by - Erik Carsten on 29/10/2009 17:35:34
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 29/10/2009 :  17:34:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Eibache. That is very helpful. Now that I know to look in the civil sections I found his Theodore's death record. Can you translate please? Does it say how he died and also where he is from?

Theodore Helgesen #2 (1900) Civil Death Record

Thank you.

Erik.

Edited by - Erik Carsten on 29/10/2009 19:08:50
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Kåarto
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Posted - 29/10/2009 :  19:58:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Erik.
Theodor Andreas Helgesen "Maskinarbeider" Machine worker born in Leganger 1870. Confirmated April 20. 1884 in Dahl. Father: "Veiarbeidsformann" Road works foreman Knud Helgesen Leganger.

Leganger is the old name for Leikanger in Rovde parish in Møre & Romsdal County

Theodor Andreas (Knudsen) Helgesen was born April 6. 1870 to Road works foreman Knud Helgesen b. 1837 and Martha Torgersdatter b 1846 in Leganger (Leikanger), bap. in Leikanger church on Mai 13, see #12

Kåre
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eibache
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Posted - 29/10/2009 :  20:26:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Theodor Helgesen died at Bergen Hospital of Carcinoid Tumor. He was a Steamer machinist when he died. Other info on his birth and marriage you know.

Einar
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eibache
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Posted - 29/10/2009 :  21:24:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lovise Marie Karoline was born Sept 1 1870 and baptized at home on Sept 19. This was confirmed in Oslo Domkirke on Oct 30 1870. Her parents were confectioner Fredrik Vilhelm Reese and Anna Sofie Larsen living in Lille Vognmandsgt 10.

Einar
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 29/10/2009 :  22:34:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thank you Eibache, I have been doing some research on these people, it appears that Lovise's mother was from Sjaelland and her father was from Kiel, Schleswig-Holstein.

Question: What does Sømand mean in terms of an occupation?
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eibache
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Posted - 29/10/2009 :  22:50:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sømand today written Sjømann = Sailor.

Einar
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Kåarto
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Posted - 29/10/2009 :  22:58:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Knud Helgesen was from Røldal municipality in Hordaland County.
He worked as a road worker on farm Aahjem together with three other roadworkers in Vaylven sub parish in Rovde, see here

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 29/10/2009 22:59:33
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Kåarto
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Posted - 29/10/2009 :  23:14:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Martha Torgersdatter was from Herø.
She worked as a servant on farm leganger in Leganger school didtrict, Røvde/Rovde sub parish in Herø, see here

Knud Helgesen was born on Botnen to Helje Heljesen and Torbjør Knudsdatter, christened july 8. 1837.
Knud was named after his mothers father Knud, according traditional naming he had an older brother Helje (1. born son was named after his fathers father)

The church books for Røldal if you want to look after him

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 29/10/2009 23:25:34
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 30/10/2009 :  00:14:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Thank you Kaarto, That is very helpful.

Erik.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 30/10/2009 :  07:31:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi.
They both lived in Nedre Baklandet ,Trondheim in 1900, Fredrik was born in Kiel Germany.
Sophie was born in Sjeland. Could be a countryside in Vestfold County.
Fredrik was blind from 189?, her run his own business occ: "Sukkerbaker" Sugar baker? Confectioner?, so perhaps they both died in Trondheim, see here

Lovise Helgesen was a widow living with her son Fredrik.

Any suggestions when or where they died Einar?

Kåre
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 30/10/2009 :  08:12:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
To all concerned:

To All:

For the record, Theodor and Lovise (Reese) Helgesen had another son named Knut Martin.

He was born on July 2nd, 1895 ,,,,no. 210
He died on July 6th, 1900 ...no. 82

This confirms the family history that there were two (2) boys but they both did not die at the same time.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 30/10/2009 :  11:41:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Could not find any death records Erik.

Anne Sophie was from Sjeland, Sjælland in Denmark.
She and Fredrik Wilhelm came to Norway before 1865 with two children, Anna Kirstine and Mack Ditlef born in Denmark.
Fredrik Wilhelm reese is wrongfully registerd as born in Denmark . Occ. "Droppps Fabrikant" Candy Manufcturer. They lived in "Reberbanen" Ropewalk street here

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 30/10/2009 12:22:36
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Kåarto
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Posted - 30/10/2009 :  12:14:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
LDS records have the following information:
Anna Sopie Larsen married Fredrik Wilhelm Rege (Reese) July 23. 1859 in Fuglebjerg municipality, Sorø Amt (County, Skjælland, Denmark.
Fuglebjerg was separated from Sorø County 1970.

From the same records: Ane Kirstine Reese b. in Fuglebjerg April 23. 1859 to Fredrik Wilhelm Reese and Ane Sophie Larsen.

Fuglebjerg church from about 1370.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 31/10/2009 00:28:40
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