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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 08/12/2009 :  21:32:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Thank you Kare.
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 25/08/2010 :  04:27:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello my friends! (HEI!) I hope you are all well and that you have been having a relaxing and an enjoyable summer.

I have been back to Minnesota where I was able to visit the grave of Anders Dahl at Gonvick. The gravestone is in disrepair and I am going to make an inquiry with the Cemetery Sextant on possibly fixing it. I also was able to visit the land where this family homesteaded and was able to visit with the current owner.

I have a question regarding this family, as a letter that Kare translated off line sometime ago seemed to imply that around 1885 one of the daughters may have returned to Norway?

Can anybody find a Thora Dahl, b. April 20, 1867 in Vardø returning to visit her grandparents in Trondheim around 1885? Just curious.
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 26/08/2010 :  08:02:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Erik,
good to hear from you.
Glad to hear you have had a enjoyable summer.

It was 16 Thora Dahl living in Norway in the 1900 census, noone seems to be your Thora, so this is most likely a blind track, perhaps we have looked into this before, the only that could match is Thora Dahl in Vadsø, Finnmark county, born 1868, unmarried, manager for her mother Erikke Dahl who recieve pension from her relatives, see here

Kåre
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Erik Carsten
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530 Posts

Posted - 26/08/2010 :  17:44:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Hi Kåre

Thank you! No, this is not our Thora Dahl. I was more interested if somebody could search the ships logs for a Thora Dahl that might have returned temporarily to Norway in 1886?

Thank you

[/quote]
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Erik Carsten
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USA
530 Posts

Posted - 15/10/2010 :  07:31:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Friends.

I am interested in a Christine Folkedahl, born ca. 1880 in IOWA. I see her in the 1900 U.S. Census working as a servant in Winneshiek, Iowa.

Can anybody access any other census, national or Iowa to see who her parents were? I am trying to learn a little bit about her and her family.

Thank you,
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Erik Carsten
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USA
530 Posts

Posted - 31/12/2010 :  08:25:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kåre

Hi everybody at Norway Heritage. Happy Holidays and Happy New Year!

could you take a look at this. I see #79 in the girls section is a father named "Chiel" Pommeranz. A few year later I see his name written as "Chil" in another birth entry.

He immigrates to America in 1887 under the name of Charles Mortenson and later moves to Philadelphia where at least in one of the census I see he goes by the name of "chil" again.

What kind of name is this? Is it a nickname or is it another nationality?

Is there anything else on this record to suggest where he is from and what does he do for a living. He was a hatmaker here in America.

birth record in girls section #79
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 31/12/2010 :  10:32:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Happy Holdays and Happy New Year Erik.

Never seen the name Chiel/Chil before, not sure but it may be a misspelling for pronunciation of the name Kjeld/Keld, todays Kjell, almost similar.

Chil Pomeranz born 1861 married civil (by Notary public) August 3. ? 1883.
Cant find any Marriage register, secular, for Trondheim or any Pomeranz or similare to that in the 1865 or 1875 censuses.

Pomeranz/Pommeranz sounds German or Polish to me.

The 1900 census for Oslo contains a Pomerantz family, the father born 1851 in Kolbysov, Austria, the mother and two children born in Hannover, Germany and a daughter born in Sweden so this family came to Norway via Sweden.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 31/12/2010 10:59:28
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Erik Carsten
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USA
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Posted - 31/12/2010 :  16:30:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thank you. I have done a little looking into this and one possiblity in addition to your is that I understand now the name Chiel is a Dutch derivation for the name Mike.

In the U.S. Census this man indicates he is born in Norway. I was thinking that Chiel Pommeranz and Charles Mortensn might be two different people but both are seen using the name "Chil or Chiel" and their year of birth is the same,

Thank you. I am trying to find surviving descendants. If I learn anything more I will post it in here.

thank you
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Erik Carsten
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USA
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Posted - 04/01/2011 :  17:57:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Kare, perhaps this might be more legible to learn more about the date of Frederikke and Chiel's wedding?

See birth record

Birth Record #59 in Girl's section

Also, what is the last middle name of this child? Anna Sofie _____?
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jwiborg
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Norway
3895 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2011 :  18:07:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Carsten

Also, what is the last middle name of this child? Anna Sofie _____?
Isidora

Jan Peter
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Erik Carsten
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USA
530 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2011 :  18:20:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Jan Peter.
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 04/01/2011 :  18:30:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Chiel Pommeranz belonged to the jewish religion and their civil marriage took place Jan 3 1883.

Einar
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Erik Carsten
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USA
530 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2011 :  18:38:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[.......Pommeranz/Reese civil marriage record #1 1883


Edited by - Erik Carsten on 03/03/2011 06:32:18
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Erik Carsten
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USA
530 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2011 :  18:48:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[Eibache, can you see where Chiel was born? Also, is there any other text in the marriage record that would indicate more of his background? Occupation, religion, family?

thank you.
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jwiborg
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Norway
3895 Posts

Posted - 04/01/2011 :  19:25:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It says he was born in Kolbuszowa, Austria. In today's Poland. He is Jewish, and was an engraver.

Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 04/01/2011 19:26:51
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