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Erik Carsten
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 Posted - 11/02/2009 : 17:48:09
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Thank you, Hopkins, for pointing out these resources. Very helpful.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 11/02/2009 : 19:07:49
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I agree, the wedding record is very hard to read, its more information after his name, do you understand what it´s written Einar.
The christening record from 1810.
1. Column has the dates, 2. column is the boys, 3 column is the girls, 4. column is the parents.
Saxagesima is Lathin for the last Sunday before Fast, the nex Sunday in 1. column is "1 Søndag i faste" 1.Sunday in Fast, Saxagesima was Sunday Feb. 25 in 1810.
It was 6 christenings on this Sunday, 3 boys and 3 girls, Siri, Gunild and Ingeborg.
In 4.Column after Siri you will see her parents, Sivert Berntsen and Ingeborg Andersdatter (it correspond with the 1801 census for Berdal), bacause of that we can assume that Siri age 1. in 1801 census died young.
From the LDS for Rambraut (many records) we find Anders Torbergsen Rambraut born 1805, means born about since the exact day isn´t recorded, I assume the date is taken from the age on his death record.
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eibache
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Posted - 11/02/2009 : 19:45:51
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Actually Siri Sivertsdatter Berdal was christened "Sexagesima" Feb. 25 1810 in Soknedal
- yes and she was born Febr 16, see 6th column.
Baptismal record #15, I read: Anders Torbergsen Rambroodt Gaardsøn Ungk 31 i Forlds Huus
Anders was 15 years old when he was confirmed in 1820, see #8
Anders parents Torber Hagen (Olsen) and Gunild Andersdatter were married Nov 24 1805, see top of right hand page here
this was late since Thorberg Hagens Quinde = Gunild Andersdatter was introduced (after birth, presumably Anders who I have not found) on Nov 3 1805, see
21st S e. Trinit.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 11/02/2009 : 20:32:16
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Of cource she was Einar, my right eye most have been closed.
Even the godparents in the last column, one of them, Siri Bordal, is likley Siri Ellefdatter age 41 on one of the 3 Bordal farm in the 1801 census.
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 11/02/2009 : 22:12:15
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Anders father "Hagen"..........
Is this their family name? |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 11/02/2009 : 22:59:09
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Yes, Thorberg Olsen was Torberg Hagen, he married Gunnild Andersdr Rambraut, Gunield nr 3698 age 37 in 1801 born to Cottager Anders Pedersen age 49 and Kierstina Sterchensdr age 56.
From the wedding record Nov. 24. 1805, see Eibache here above, best men Sergeant Ole Rambraut is top of the list in 1801 and Ole Pedersen Rambraut is farmer nr 3700 in 1801.
Introdused mean the mother was introdused to the congregation in a ceremony where she was met at the outer door by the priest and lead into the church on her 1. visit to the church after a child birth.
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 12/02/2009 : 02:37:05
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This is a record of Anders Dahl going to fish in Vardø. Anders age 29 1/2 is the one who married Ingeborg Andersdatter.
This is a very confusing family because both Anders and Ingeborg had a father whose name was Anders. And both of their mother's family name was Sivertsdatter...so you know what I mean.
But can you see the #13, Ingeborg Andersdatter. Can you prove that she was the sister to Anders? I believe that #17 is Anders mother........#13#17 |
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 12/02/2009 : 02:42:24
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.....I believe I have found most of Anders Dahl brothers and sisters:
Sirri born 2-27-1824
Rasmus born 6-27-1827
Sivert 10-10-1829
Anders 2-6-1835--who married Ingeborg. Ancestors of mine.
Ellev 2-4-1838
Berit 3-10-1841
and Halvor 3-14-1848.......
Maybe Ingeborg on previous post was also a sister born in 1833?
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Kåarto
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Posted - 12/02/2009 : 07:16:40
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The adults were born in Støren, the children in Sydvaranger, todays Sør-Varanger.
The migration records says.
#13 widow Ingeborg Andersdatter Uldstrøm, to keep her brother house, she came from Sydvaranger (a municipality in Finnmark county)
#14, 15 and 16 , children Karen, Bertine and Anders from Sydvaranger, all born in Sydvaranger
#17 Widow Gunnild Sivertsdatter, to live with her son, she came from Sydvaranger, born in Støren
#18 Bachelor and Fisherman Anders Andersen Dahl (his father was Anders ?) To make a living on fishing, he came from Sydvaranger, born in Støren
To find the children we has to enter Vadsø parish, Sydvaranger was a part of Vadsø parish before 1864 including Kirkenes town.
Anders age 8 in the migration record, his father was Anders Nilsen, he was born on Øvre (Upper) Jacobselv, christened August 9. 1857, #32, the mother; Ingeborg Andersdatter Dahl, Øvre Jacobselv.
The emigration record tells Ingeborg Andersdatter should work for her brothers in his house, in 1865 she lived lived at Nils Nilsen´s recidence (BIL?), farmer and Fisherman at Jacobselv born in Stange, Hedmark County, Ingeborg as a widow on Jacobselv in 1865 with two of the children, Karen and Anders.
Jacobselv is a small population centre and former fishing village in Vadsø municipality
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Edited by - Kåarto on 12/02/2009 13:52:38 |
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eibache
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Posted - 12/02/2009 : 07:35:41
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Rasmus born 6-27-1827
see#18 born June 22.
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Sivert 10-10-1829
see#32
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Ellev 2-4-1838
see#7 born Febr 4
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Anders 2-6-1835
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Berit 3-10-1841
see #12
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Halvor 3-14-1848
born March 18 1844, see #13
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 12/02/2009 : 08:10:57
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Kåarto. This is interesting. I had thought that maybe Anders Dahl had first arrived in Vardø in 1865, but you say he is coming from another area of Finnmark. Can you see when he arrived in Finnmark initially?
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eibache
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Posted - 12/02/2009 : 08:16:38
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Anders parents Anders Rasmussen and Gunnild Sivertsdatter married June 8 1824, see #11
Anders Rasmussen and his parents and siblings in 1801
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Erik Carsten
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Kåarto
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Posted - 12/02/2009 : 08:34:54
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This is confusing Einar, all the Anders/Andersen names, can´t find Anders Dahl, is there a name sake or a wrong spelling in some of the record?
Also Bertine age 10 in the migration record, christened July 23. 1855 (Vadsø parish 1854-80 page 10, #35) was born to Anders Nielsen, did Ingeborg Andersdatter became a widow two times and married 2. time to Anders Nielsen?
The same for Karen age 11 in the migration record, born to Anders Nilsen Jacobselv christened July 9. 1854 (Vadsø 1854-80 p. 3, #32)
Ingeborg Andersdatter Dahl from the migration record, born in Støren was born to Anders Rasmussen, see wedding record #7, she was Anders Dahls sister and widow Gunnild Siversdatter, age 62 in the migration record was her mother.
The "other" Ingeborg Andersdatter Rambraut, see link above, born in Lade/Strinden married to Anders Dahl was born to Anders Torbergsen Rambraut.
Anders Dahl lived in Vardø in 1865, Fisherman in Søndre Vaag street, unmarried with his mother, Bertine age 10 in the migration record (herv father was dead) lived by her grandmother and uncle as a foster child.
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eibache
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Posted - 12/02/2009 : 10:05:02
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Anders Dahl lived in Vardø in 1865, Fisherman in Søndre Vaag street, unmarried
- yes and his mother as a widow and his brother Rasmus is living at the same place.
Anders got married in 1867.
Anders Nilsen was the father of all three children of Anders Dahls sister Ingeborg when they moved in at Vardø 1864. |
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