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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 22/04/2009 :  23:42:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
#25 right hand side, Sirri Andersdatter born August 21, 1819

Can somebody verify the mothers name. I am seeing Andersdatter but also maybe it could be Sivertsdatter?
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jwiborg
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Posted - 22/04/2009 :  23:47:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Parents: Anders Rasmussen & Berit Arentsdr

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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 23/04/2009 :  00:05:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[thank you Jan Peter,

for the childs name do you read Siri or Sirri?

Also can you read the names of the people off the right side of the parents names?

Edited by - Erik Carsten on 23/04/2009 00:06:47
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jwiborg
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Posted - 23/04/2009 :  00:12:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, it reads Sirri.
Sponsors are Asbjørn Evjen and Sirri Valdum.

Jan Peter
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 23/04/2009 :  00:39:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
marriage record #9

this must be the marriage record of Anders and Berit? But I am not sure.....
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 27/04/2009 :  17:43:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jan Peter,

could you look at previous post please and let me know what you think. I don't trust my eyes.

thanks
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 27/04/2009 :  17:46:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Jan Peter or other Researchers.

Repeating request for assistance on following:

Anders Dahl left Trondheim on April 5, 1881 on board the steamship, Tasso. He traveled alone to Osakis, Minnesota to prepare a place for his wife and children. Somebody already here in the United States purchased his ticket for him. Do you know who this was?

Ingeborg came to America the following year with the children. Thora (15), August (11), Arnold (5) Marie (4) and Signe (11 mo.) They left Norway on October 5, 1882 on board the steamship, Hero.

These appear to be "feeder" ships to other Trans Atlantice ships.

Are you able to identify the ships they sailed to North America?

Thank you.

Erik.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 27/04/2009 :  20:42:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,
Anders Dahl left Trondheim on May 4th, not April 5th. (In Norway, we list the date as DD-MM-YYYY)
I strongly believe he arrived America in Philadelphia on May 23rd, 1881, sailing on the S/S Illinois, departuring Liverpool.
But I can't locate him in the indexed register, so his name might be wrongly transcribed.
You should check the original manifest to see if he is listed.

Ingeborg and the children left Trondheim on May 10th, not October 5th!
They arrived New York on May 31st 1882 on the S/S Batavia, sailing from Liverpool.
Indexed names:
Igneborg Dall
Aug Dall
Arnold Dall
Maria Dall
Igneborg Dall (Signe Dahl?)
Thora Dahl

Jan Peter
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eibache
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Posted - 27/04/2009 :  21:55:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
this must be the marriage record of Anders and Berit? But I am not sure.....

Since Jan Peter has not answered this, I will.
It is not your Anders and Berit - the marriage date is Oct 23 1818. Sirri was born out of wedlock Aug 21 1819 - marriage must be later than this birth date then. (Besides Anders was Monsen and Berit was Marit Arentsdatter)
Did your Anders and Berit (Beret) marry? They were both possibly on Nordtøme in 1801, 11 and 2 years old respectively. An Anders Rasmussen born 1790 married Gunnild Sivertsdatter 1824 - could he be your Anders rasmussen?

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 27/04/2009 22:13:52
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 27/04/2009 :  21:58:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thank you eibach. They may never have even married.....
Regards,
Erik.
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 27/04/2009 :  22:02:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Jan Peter.

Sorry about the date mixups.

In your researching, have you ever been able to find documents as to who paid for voyages as in bill bet i America, which I assume is bill paid in America?

Regards,
Erik.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 27/04/2009 :  23:20:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"Bill bet i America" means "Ticket paid in America".

It's hard to tell who paid his ticket. It could be a brother, a cousin, other family member or just an old friend who needed a farm hand.
A note on Anders Dahl's emigration says: "Reiser paa Paul Olsens ", meaning "Travelling on Paul Olsens..."

Travelling on Paul Olsen's what? It doesn't say. Possibly on Paul Olsen's ticket?
One "Paul K. Olsen (25)" from Vardø is headed for Houston Minn on June 23rd 1881. His ticket is also paid in America. Could it be that some relatives of Paul Olsen sent over several tickets, and that your Anders got one of them?
They could have got the tickets from a farmer, and then committed to work on his farm for some time.

Jan Peter
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/04/2009 :  00:44:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
o.k. tWe know that Anders originally stated his destination as Osakis, Minnesota.

Houston, Minesota is some distance away. Quite some distance away.

It would make more sense that there was a Paul Olsen near Osakis, which is not far from where Anders and his family intitially settled.

We will look for this name, Paul Olsen, in our future research.

thank you kindly for your help on this.

Regards,
Erik.

Edited by - Erik Carsten on 28/04/2009 00:45:27
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/04/2009 :  02:36:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Simen Br'kkan also travleing to Osakis.....

Look at the passenger above Anders Dahl. He is also listed as going to Osakis, Minnesota. Perhaps they were travleing together.

What a strange name. Can you see the origianal manifest to verify this persons name?

Erik.

Edited by - Erik Carsten on 28/04/2009 02:48:29
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jwiborg
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Posted - 28/04/2009 :  08:52:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
His name must be Simon Brækkan. (Brekkan).

It looks like the tool they've used to publish this emigrant database doesn't fully support the norwegian character "æ". I've seen this on several other emigrants as well.

Jan Peter
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