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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/04/2009 :  15:34:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[quote]Originally posted by jwiborg

His name must be Simon Brækkan. (Brekkan).

It looks like the tool they've used to publish this emigrant database doesn't fully support the norwegian character "æ". I've seen this on several other emigrants as well.

Jan Peter
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That is very interesting. There are relatives in the family tree from a farm called Brækøen Nedre and Bræk Sørstu. No doubt Anders knew this man, now I will try to figure out their relationship.

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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/04/2009 :  15:53:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Simen Braekken 1875 census # 12689
They also lived on the same street as Anders and Ingeborg Dahl in 1875. Sverres Gade 8

Edited by - Erik Carsten on 28/04/2009 17:01:40
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jwiborg
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Posted - 28/04/2009 :  16:02:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This could be Simen and parents in census-1865.
The family is listed as coming from "Gudbrandsdalen". Vågå is located in that valley.

Simen Olsen
Christening: 10 DEC 1843, Vaagaa, Oppland
Parents: Ole Simensen & Tora Isaacksdr, Skjelleeie

Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 28/04/2009 16:06:37
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/04/2009 :  16:12:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
something tells me these Brækkens were in Vardo in 1865. In the 1875 Census they list a son Oscar Carl who was born in 1870 in Vardo Bye. (I don't know what Bye means).

also, what does Hustømmerand mean?

Edited by - Erik Carsten on 28/04/2009 16:15:28
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jwiborg
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Posted - 28/04/2009 :  16:15:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Vardø bye means Vardø city.
Hustømmermand is a (house) carpenter.

His wife Marie Caroline is from Troms county in Northern Norway.
Oscarl Johan is born in Vardø, while Emelie and Hjalmar looks to be born in Trondheim.

Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 28/04/2009 16:21:41
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/04/2009 :  16:34:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oscar Johan birth record 1870 Vardø Bye #6.

Is this helpful?

Edited by - Erik Carsten on 28/04/2009 16:37:34
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jwiborg
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Posted - 28/04/2009 :  16:51:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From the Vardø record:
Maria Caroline Nilssen and Simen Olsen Brekkan where not married at the time of Oscar Johan's birth.

I can't decipher his title, but is says Simen is at Vardøhus Festning (Fortress).

Hard to read his birthdate, but it says November 1843. Since his patronymic is Olsen, I think it confirms that he is the son of Ole Simensen & Tora Isaacksdr.

Jan Peter
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/04/2009 :  16:56:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yes, I was going to say the same thing.

this being the case, I feel the most likely explanation could be that Anders and Simen met in Vardo and began a friendship. They moved to Throndheim and ended up living very close to each other...and eventually emmigrated to America at the same time.

Do you feel the same way?
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jwiborg
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Posted - 28/04/2009 :  17:16:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Census-1900 for Todd, MN:
Simon P Brackan 55, imm. 1881 (Simon O.)
Mary C Brackan 49, imm. 1882 (Marie Caroline)
Hawkan C Brackan 23, imm. 1882 (Haakon)
Theodor E Brackan 16
Ole M Brackan 14
John W Brackan 12
Paul H Brackan 10
Albin L Brackan 0.5

Marie Caroline and 4 children emigrating to Sauk Centre, Minnesota on April 26th, 1882
Marie Brækkan 31
Emelie Brækkan 9
Hjalmar Brækkan 7
Haakon Brækkan 4
Oskar Brækkan 1.5

Jan Peter

Edited by - jwiborg on 28/04/2009 17:27:25
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/04/2009 :  17:25:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
very interesting.

Todd County is the county that borders Douglas County, where Anders and his family initially settled.
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/04/2009 :  17:45:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And look at this! A Paul Olsen traveling to Sauk Centre with the BrÆkken family.

Paul Olsen traveling to Sauk Centre with the BrÆkken family #30622

Edited by - Erik Carsten on 28/04/2009 17:46:41
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Kåarto
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Posted - 28/04/2009 :  18:01:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jan Peter and Eric, a short interference;
Simen was an Artillerist at the fortress.

Kåre
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/04/2009 :  18:58:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jan Peter...et al who might be following this thread...I am wondering if this Paul Olsen was supposed to go with Simen BrÆkkan to America but for some reason could not. He then sold/gave his ticket to Anders Dahl who traveled in his place. Thus the "Reiser paa Paul Olsens"

Anders, thinking it might be a good idea agreed and emmigrated to America where he and Simen prepared a place for their respective families...albeit in different areas.

Then Paul Olsen came later with Simen's family, when the timing was better for him.

Does this sound reasonable?
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/04/2009 :  19:00:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Kåre
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jwiborg
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Posted - 29/04/2009 :  20:30:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, that sounds reasonable.

I have not followed Anders' ancestors to see where they come from, but Simen and Paul are from Vågå, Oppland.
So unless you find a link to Oppland county for Anders, I would say they are not family.
But probably close friends after their stay at Vardø fortress.

Jan Peter
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