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Erik Carsten
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 Posted - 01/05/2009 : 19:32:43
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[quote]Originally posted by Erik Carsten
And look at this! A Paul Olsen traveling to Sauk Centre with the BrÆkken family.
Paul Olsen traveling to Sauk Centre with the BrÆkken family #30622
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Jan Peter, did the Brækken (Brackan) family also sail on the S.S. Batavia, which arrived in New York May 31, 1882?] |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 01/05/2009 : 20:23:44
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No, they arrived New York on May 18th, sailing on the S/S State of Indiana, departuring Glasgow, Scotland.
Marie Brakken
Amalie Brakken (Emelie)
Halmas Brakken (Hjalmar)
Hakon Brakken (Haakon)
Osgur Brakken (Oskar)
Perst Brakken (Beret Brækkan, servant, 22)
Myeborg Brakken (Ingeborg Brækkan, servant, 22)
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 06/05/2009 : 17:51:21
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Originally posted by jwiborg
No, they arrived New York on May 18th, sailing on the S/S State of Indiana, departuring Glasgow, Scotland.
Marie Brakken
Amalie Brakken (Emelie)
Halmas Brakken (Hjalmar)
Hakon Brakken (Haakon)
Osgur Brakken (Oskar)
Perst Brakken (Beret Brækkan, servant, 22)
Myeborg Brakken (Ingeborg Brækkan, servant, 22)
Jan Peter
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Thank you Jan Peter. I see the boat on the list of incoming ships on the website. |
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 06/05/2009 : 18:05:27
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Originally posted by jwiborg
Hi,
Anders Dahl left Trondheim on May 4th, not April 5th. (In Norway, we list the date as DD-MM-YYYY)
I strongly believe he arrived America in Philadelphia on May 23rd, 1881, sailing on the S/S Illinois, departuring Liverpool.
But I can't locate him in the indexed register, so his name might be wrongly transcribed.
You should check the original manifest to see if he is listed.
Ingeborg and the children left Trondheim on May 10th, not October 5th!
They arrived New York on May 31st 1882 on the S/S Batavia, sailing from Liverpool.
Indexed names:
Igneborg Dall
Aug Dall
Arnold Dall
Maria Dall
Igneborg Dall (Signe Dahl?)
Thora Dahl
Jan Peter
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Dear Moderators:
I checked the ships arrival list and I could not see the S.S. Batavia arrival on May 31 of 1882.
According to Jan Peters findings there were Norwegian immigrants on board.
I didn't know if you wanted to add this ship to your database? |
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 13/05/2009 : 20:21:31
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record of Sigri Rambrout's death?
I tried translating but I can't quite understand. I think this is Ingeborg Dahl's parents. It looks like her mother Sigri passed away. in 1887?
Fattiglem? meaning?
Pårørande ? meaning?
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jwiborg
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Posted - 13/05/2009 : 21:46:26
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It's the death record of married woman Sigrid Rambrout, residence poorhouse (in Trondheim), born 1809 in Støren, Sør-Trøndelag, dead 08 Dec 1887.
Next of kin is pauper Anders Rambrout.
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 14/05/2009 : 00:06:17
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Originally posted by jwiborg
It's the death record of married woman Sigrid Rambrout, residence poorhouse (in Trondheim), born 1809 in Støren, Sør-Trøndelag, dead 08 Dec 1887.
Next of kin is pauper Anders Rambrout.
Jan Peter
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Jan Peter. this was from Kåarto from page one of this thread.
In your opinion could the lady above also be the Sirri, or it could be Sigri born below?
Actually Siri Sivertsdatter Berdal was christened "Sexagesima" Feb. 25. 1810 in Sokndal, 3 column 5. from top.
birth of Sirri or possible Sigri Sivertsdatter in Soknedal.... |
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 23/05/2009 : 03:13:07
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Ingeborg and the children left Trondheim on May 10th, not October 5th!
They arrived New York on May 31st 1882 on the S/S Batavia, sailing from Liverpool.
Indexed names:
Igneborg Dall
Aug Dall
Arnold Dall
Maria Dall
Igneborg Dall (Signe Dahl?)
Thora Dahl
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Hi Jan Peter. Do you have a photo of this ship s.s. Batavia Or any history on this ship?
Thank you. Hope you are well!
Erik. |
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Erik Carsten
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jwiborg
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Posted - 30/05/2009 : 00:19:37
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No, I can't explain that. All 6 are listed as passengers on the "Lake Champlain" which arrived Quebec on June 22nd, 1906:
Gyda Landur (20)
Sigrid Herji Landra (73)
Harvid E Landra (10)
Herman R Landra (8)
Sigrid Landur (8)
Carl Landra (3)
Some names and ages are due to transcription errors. E.g. Gyda Landur (20) would be your Gusta, age 40.
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 30/05/2009 : 00:53:33
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 02/06/2009 : 21:22:43
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#73 birth of Johan Peter Thomas Dahl
Hi Jan Peter, can you make out the name of the first sponsor...do you read Marie Dahl? but what is the prefix before the name? |
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 04/06/2009 : 21:51:34
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below are children of Anders Torbersen Rambraut and Siri Sivertsdatter Bordahl. Both of Støren (Horrig)
Torberg b. 6-11-1837 (Støren)
Gunnild b. 6-19- 1840 (Støren) d. 12-11- 1922
INGEBORG b. 1-27-1843 (Støren) d. 2/20/1925 (Bank, ND)
Sivert Andreas born after 1842 most likely in Baklandet area of Trondheim.
I have not been able to find any information on torberg and Sivert. Torberg would have been born in støren and Siver most likely was born in Bakklandet. Help anyone?
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Wilben Dahl
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Posted - 28/08/2009 : 03:00:47
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Erik Carlsen or any interested person
Anders Rasmussen Nordtømme Dahl 1790 - 1855 was my great-grandfather, He was married to Gunhild Sivertsdatter Bordal 1802 - 1869. They had a large family one of their sons was Anders Andersen Nordtømme 1835 - 1940.
You seem to know this man as Anders Andersen Dahl. He was married to Ingeborg Andersdatter Torbergsen Rembraut 1843 - n1925. The family originated with Rasmus Ellevsen Vold 758 - 1801, who gave his family the farm name of Nordtømme. As the family moved away from the farm, they began using Nordtømme Dahl, with many of the family eventually dropping Nordtømme altogether. Exactly what transition the name took with, Anders Andersen is not clear to me, however this is the same person you have been discussing.
I have seen several discussions regarding a person you call “Simon Braekkan or Brekkan. This is a family that originates in Sors Tu, Bræk, near Soknedal, Midtre Gauldal, Norway. The family name revolves about “Bræk” with many variations of spelling. It is my understanding that the suffix of “en” or “an”, has a similar meaning as “of” or “in” the English use, as a prefix. In other words - it does not change the name.
I am not familiar with a “Bræken/Bræk” named Simen, however when you wonder about the relationship to Anders Andersen Dahl, I do know this - Rasmus Ellevsen Vold was married to Siri Andersdatter Bræken/Bræk 1802 - 1869. This should illustrate that they are closely related if Simon is of this same Bræk family. Further - Their cousin, Anders Olsen Brækan (Bræk) had served in the military at Vadsø Festning a fort in the most northern part of Norway in the City of Vardø. He had been to Grense Jakobselv several times to get firewood for the fort in Vardø. On a clear day Grense Jakobselv can be seen to the East from the Vardø area, 55-km (35 miles) across the Varangerfjord.
Anders Olsen Bræckan(Bræken )1736 - 1801, Anders Rasmussen Nordtømme Dahl 1790 - 1855, Hans Estensen Kveberg 1812 - 1891, and Anders Nilsen Urstrømmen 1814 - 1858, were the original settlers of Grense Jakobselv in 1851. They raised families there until the early 1900s. Few, if any people reside there year-round at this time.
Wilben Dahl
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 31/08/2009 : 19:23:36
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Hello Mr. Dahl:
This is a very nice surprise to receive a message from you. Thank you for your information! Are you located in Norway? Who was your Grandfather from the Dahl lineage?
Regarding Simon Braekken. I am not sure about his relationship to Siri Andersdatter Braek. According to the 1875 census it shows that Simon was born in Vaage Præstegjeld Gulbransdalen. This is some distance from Horrig?
Also, in my research I believe that Anders married a Berit Arentsdatter before he married Gunnhild. I believe they may have had a child Siri born in 1819? but she may have died young as the next child born in 1824 was also named Sirri, but parents were Anders and Gunnhild. Do you know anything about this?
Thank you.
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