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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/09/2011 :  01:41:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Forum members, can anybody see anything on a John G. Hagen in NORWAY?

1900 Census shows he is born February 1847 and he immigrated to the United States in 1869. However, the 1920 Census records him arriving in 1847...and naturalized in 1855? (Born in Norway)

I see him in various U.S. census information but I don't know where he is from in Norway, and I cannot find him in the 1870 US Census, or in the 1975 Minnesota State Cenus.

In 1880 he is living in Evansville, Minnesota with his wife Ingeborg and their daughter Emilie, (7) born in Minnesota and Gilbert (3) also born in Minnesota.

He lived in Minnesota and died in Duluth , Minnesota on 4-21-1921.

thank you.

Edited by - Erik Carsten on 28/09/2011 02:17:11

AntonH
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Posted - 28/09/2011 :  02:23:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The 1920 US Census list birth year as 1847
The 1910 US Census lists birth year as 1847.
The 1900 US Census lists birth as Feb 1847.
The 1880 US Census lists birth as abt 1847.


Edited by - AntonH on 28/09/2011 02:52:44
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/09/2011 :  02:24:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi..thank you but census information, and other documents strongly support that John Hagen was born in 1847, in Norway.
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/09/2011 :  02:44:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have placed an order for his death certificate and it should arrive in a couple of weeks. This should give us his parents name and as soon as I have this information I will pass it on in here.

in the meanwhile I suggest we wait and not work on this

thank you.
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/09/2011 :  02:55:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Did you say that your John Hagen was living in Plummer, Minnesota?
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jkmarler
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Posted - 28/09/2011 :  03:28:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

According to Nordmændene i Amerika, John Hagen at Plummer left from Skanshagen, Elverum Norway in 1883, and came to Plummer in 1892. He has a son named Gudor J. Hagen, forretningsbestyrer in Clearbrook, Minnesota from 1908.

In the first post re: Gilbert Hagen the son, www.mnhs.org has this entry of the approximately correct age in death index:

HAGEN, GILBERT
Date of Birth: 27 May 1876
Place of Birth: MINNESOTA
Mother Maiden Name: na
certid# 1963-MN-033097
Date of Death: 31 Jan 1963
County of Death: ST. LOUIS

Duluth historical newspapers are searchable in a couple of places online.

Here is a John Hagen d. 1921 from the Minnesota Deaths and Burials database at www.familysearch.org:


Name: John G. Hagen
Gender: Male
Burial Date:
Burial Place:
Death Date: 21 Apr 1921
Death Place: Duluth, St. Louis, Minnesota
Age: 74
Birth Date: 1847
Birthplace:
Occupation:
Race:
Marital Status:
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name: Gunder Hagen
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name:
Mother's Birthplace:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B02148-1
System Origin: Minnesota-EASy
Source Film Number: 2218068
Reference Number: 23955-367


Jackie M.

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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/09/2011 :  04:43:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Jackie..yes I am familiar and have information on his son Gilbert Hagan.

So John Hagan's father was Gunder? That is very helpful. I have a feeling his mother's name might be Johanna....

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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/09/2011 :  04:53:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jackie.

here is a Johan G. Hagan with a father Gunder emmigrating in 1883.....but it shows his age as 28 which means his DOB is 1857...not 1847...plus the year of immigration if wrong as well.

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=emikra1&personpostnr=64305&merk=64305

Edited by - Erik Carsten on 28/09/2011 04:55:50
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AntonH
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Posted - 28/09/2011 :  05:10:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a passport application for John G Haugen from Plummer, Red Lake, Minnesota from 1921. He is going to visit his relatives. However Plummer is a long drive from Duluth.

Name: John G Hagen
Birth Date: 29 Sep 1854
Birth Place: Osterdalen, Norway
Age: 66
Residence: Plummer, Minnesota
Passport Issue Date: 23 Mar 1921
Father Name: Gunder Gunderson
Father's Birth Location: Norway
Passport Includes a Photo: Yes

Edited by - AntonH on 28/09/2011 05:12:24
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/09/2011 :  05:12:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Somehow I don't think this John G. Hagen is the right one...but it is interesting.
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AntonH
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Posted - 28/09/2011 :  05:15:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I do not think he is the right John Hagen either. For one thing this is probably him in the 1920 US Census living in Red Lake County as in his Passport Application.

Name: John G Hazen
[John G Hagen]
Home in 1920: Emardville, Red Lake, Minnesota
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's Name: Martha Hagen
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of immigration: 1883

Members: Name Age
John G Hazen 65
Martha Hagen 64
Inga Hazen 37
Ella Hazen 34
Jennie Hazen 30
John J Hazen 26

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AntonH
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Posted - 28/09/2011 :  05:18:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And this is likely your John Hagen living in Duluth, St Louis, Minnesota. Likely two different people. Year of immigration is likely wrong.

Name: John G Hagen
[John B Hagen]
[John G Hagon]
Home in 1920: Duluth, St Louis, Minnesota
Age: 73
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Birthplace: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Father-in-Law
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Birth Place: Norway
Marital Status: Widowed
[Widow]
Race: White
Sex: Male
Year of immigration: 1847

Edited by - AntonH on 28/09/2011 05:19:12
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jkmarler
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Posted - 28/09/2011 :  05:20:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Carsten

Jackie.

here is a Johan G. Hagan with a father Gunder emmigrating in 1883.....but it shows his age as 28 which means his DOB is 1857...not 1847...plus the year of immigration if wrong as well.

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=emikra1&personpostnr=64305&merk=64305



Yes Erik and they are all residents of Elverum--probably the Plummer John G. Hagen and all are headed to Evansville.

There were also a couple of Gilbert Hagens. In the newspapers, in 1906 Gilbert Hagen lost a leg to a train accident and then it looks as though he had to sue his employer... That your Gilbert?

Jackie
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/09/2011 :  05:21:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
but there is some connection....this is the WW1 registration card for Julius Hagen (Gilbert's twin brother) He lists his nearest relative as John G. Hagen (Plummer MM)

http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=6482&iid=MN-1675463-1732&fn=Julius&ln=Hagen&st=r&ssrc=&pid=29942363
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/09/2011 :  05:23:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

[quote]Originally posted by Erik Carsten

Jackie.

here is a Johan G. Hagan with a father Gunder emmigrating in 1883.....but it shows his age as 28 which means his DOB is 1857...not 1847...plus the year of immigration if wrong as well.

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=emikra1&personpostnr=64305&merk=64305



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yes it is Jackie....very interesting I was speaking with a decendant and he told me Gilbert lost a leg from a hunting accident. He ended up working as an elevator man in Duluth.......

can you scan the article?

Edited by - Erik Carsten on 28/09/2011 05:31:44
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Erik Carsten
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Posted - 28/09/2011 :  05:27:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

[quote]Originally posted by Erik Carsten

Jackie.

here is a Johan G. Hagan with a father Gunder emmigrating in 1883.....but it shows his age as 28 which means his DOB is 1857...not 1847...plus the year of immigration if wrong as well.

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=emikra1&personpostnr=64305&merk=64305


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well now I am very confused because here is Gilbert's WW1 registration card and it clearly states 'no' to the question has he lost arm, leg, hand..........

http://search.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=6482&iid=MN-1675463-1730&fn=Gilbert&ln=Hagen&st=r&ssrc=&pid=29942361


Edited by - Erik Carsten on 28/09/2011 05:28:44
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