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Torgeir Dagfinn Teigum
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Posted - 07/02/2012 :  13:48:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have searched "everywhere" and without any success for 20 years, also here on norway Heritage. Having had such great success with another "long lost" here, I try again:

Three siblings from Skjak/Lom who emigrated to USA or Canada:

[http://www.geni.com/people/Mari-Andersdotter-Hyrvemoen/6000000007241041852]

[http://www.geni.com/people/Jon-Andersson-Hyrvemoen/6000000007241430205]

[http://www.geni.com/people/Anna-Andersdotter-Hyrvemoen/6000000002756839529]

Their sister is my great grandmother [http://www.geni.com/people/R%C3%B8nnaug-Teigum/6000000002756843983]

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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
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Posted - 07/02/2012 :  15:18:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When did they migrate?
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 07/02/2012 :  15:35:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
More info would be beneficial, example: when did they emigrate (Mari and Anne were in Skjk 1875 - John was not there).

Einar
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lyndal40
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USA
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Posted - 07/02/2012 :  16:46:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If we search Ancestry.com for Jon Anders* born 1853 +/- 2 we find very few people, however if we change the spelling to John we get over three hundred men to sort through. Mari and Anna also would be very common names and so we have a problem determing which of the many candidates is the one we are looking for.

Thus we need some other bit of evidence to use. Do you know if they had family or friends who had already emmigrated to America and who they may have been going to meet. What were their names and where might they have lived. Would they have been travelling with others from the same area. What are the possible years they might have left. Did Anna and Mari travel together? Can you provide any further information.

It is not an easy search or you would have found them already.
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 07/02/2012 :  18:37:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
An English version of Hyrvemoen might be the last name "Harvey""

https://www.familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Ajohn~%20%2Bsurname%3Aharvey~%20%2Bbirth_place%3Anorway~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1852-1854~

I've checked in 2 lists of Gudbrandsdalslaget membership (1 list from 1925-26 and the other from 1949) for those from Sjaak & found no Anderson (John, Mari / Mary, Anne), no Hyrvemoen.
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 07/02/2012 :  19:08:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This family tree has a woman who appears to be Mari and has her married to someone named Per Person Skamsar:

http://histfam.familysearch.org/getperson.php?personID=I5667&tree=Skjaak

And there is a Peder P Skamser in Superior, Wisc. in the 1925-26 Gudbrandsdalaget list.

Edited by - jkmarler on 07/02/2012 19:10:18
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jwiborg
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Posted - 07/02/2012 :  19:10:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.norwayheritage.com/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4513

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jwiborg
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Posted - 07/02/2012 :  23:26:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What was Erik P Skamser's destination when he arrived New York on The Celtic, on June 1st, 1902?
Washburn, Wisconsin?

Colomn 16 reads "bro T.O. Traastad, Viroqua, Vernon, Wis", but I believe that is #2's destination (Thore Johannesen (19) also from Skjk).
Or did he have a brother in the US?

Thor O. Traastad in Harmony town, Vernon, Wisconsin is born sept. 1847.

Jan Peter
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lyndal40
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USA
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  00:07:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jackie, this is probably Peder Skamser from the 1920 US Census. Two children, Harold and Merwin both born in Wisconsin.

1920 United States Federal Census 1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Peter Skamser
Age: 46
Birth Year: abt 1874
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1920: Superior Ward 5, Douglas, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1890
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Johanna Skamser
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway




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Torgeir Dagfinn Teigum
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  11:27:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eibache

More info would be beneficial, example: when did they emigrate (Mari and Anne were in Skjk 1875 - John was not there).




Mari 1884 from Oslo
Anne 1885
Jon unknown

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lyndal40
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USA
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  23:54:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Searching the archives for emigrants, I came across this Marie Andersdatter age 16 going to Eau Claire. I noticed by clicking on the hammer that you had highlighted this person.

http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=10&filnamn=EMIOSLO&gardpostnr=63052&merk=63052#ovre

I can find an M Andersen arriving in New York. Listed as a male which is probably wrong. Other passengers on the same ship are Ragnil Skansen and E P Skansen so this is probably the correct person. However as in the emigration from Norway record she is listed as 16 years old not the 27 that your Mari would be at this time.

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: M Andersen
Arrival Date: 25 May 1884
Birth Year: abt 1868
Age: 16
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of departure: London, England
Destination: New York
Port of arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Assyrian Monarch


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lyndal40
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USA
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Posted - 10/02/2012 :  00:01:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looking at the 1900 US Census for Eau Claire and Chippewa Counties ie the Eau Claire area and using Mar* born 1857 emmigrated 1884 as the search keys does not turn up very many people, however it does turn up this lady. Note birth March 1857, immigrated 1884 and married after arrival in US ie 1887. Might be worth a longer look. A word of caution the 1910 Census gives immigration as 1885 and 1920 census gives 1888 as an immigration year.

Short memory, I also found this same family in the earlier search for this family.

1900 United States Census

Home in 1900: Eau Claire Ward 7, Eau Claire, Wisconsin
[Eau Claire]
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1884
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Lewie Steenberg
Marriage Year: 1887
Years Married: 13
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Household Members: Name Age
Lewie Steenberg 46
Martha Steenberg 43
Mable L Steenberg 12
Hattie S Steenberg 4




Edited by - lyndal40 on 10/02/2012 00:14:42
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lyndal40
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USA
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Posted - 10/02/2012 :  01:24:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think this eliminates the family above. This Wisconsin birth record shows the wife Martha to have the maiden name of Christinson.

Wisconsin, Births and Christenings Index, 1826-1908 Wisconsin, Births and Christenings Index, 1826-1908
Name: Hattie Steinburg
Birth Date: 17 Apr 1896
Birth Place: Eau Claire, Eau Claire, Wisconsin
Gender: Female
Race: White
Father's Name: Louis Steinburg
Father's Birth Place: Norway
Mother's Name: Martha Christinson
Mother's Birth Place: Norway


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lyndal40
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USA
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Posted - 10/02/2012 :  03:04:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think this is likely Anna Andersen emigration record.

http://www.digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=1&filnamn=EMIOSLO&gardpostnr=69958#nedre
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lyndal40
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USA
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Posted - 10/02/2012 :  03:25:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If the above emigration record is correct than this is likely her arrival into New York on the Germanic. She is using the name Ane A Hovenden. I found her by finding Emma Olsjon and her family of two children. (listed under the name Emma Olsen along with Julia 6 and Oluf 3) I also found the Lao famly of Lars and Sigrid and four children (listed under Loo). Thus I have some confidence that Anne Anderson is listed under the name Ane A Hovenden, since looking through the manifest did not turn up any better candidates.

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Ane A Hovenden
Arrival Date: 6 Jul 1885
Birth Year: abt 1865
Age: 20
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Swedish
Place of Origin: Sweden
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Germanic

Unfortunately there does not seem to be any other useful information such as destination or people to visit on the manifest. The manifest is very difficult to read and done very poorly so I would discount the Swedish identifiacation Also the birth year is off slightly, the manifest lists ages and her age is listed as 20 which matches the Emigration Record above. Also the person above her is Marie Oleson age 23 (probably Maria Olsen from the Emigration Record).


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