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volsen
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 Posted - 05/08/2018 : 05:38:15
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I'm sorry. Not sure why I have Vinger not Grue I have the same baptism record in my documentation.
I guess it will be next to impossible to tell if I have the right Kari and Johan if they didn't get married. Hopefully there will be another clue that might click.
Thank you so much.
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lynn peterson432
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Posted - 05/08/2018 : 15:55:05
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| married Johan Johansen and Kari Andersdatter dec 29 1881 grue Hedmark Norway his father Johan Pedersen |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/08/2018 : 17:05:58
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Maybe Lynn has found your couple. If so they married very late in life, he would have been 58 and she 60. She does have the farm name of Løvhaugen attached to her. His farm name looks to be Baksjøberget
Here is the original record.
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lynn peterson432
Medium member
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Posted - 05/08/2018 : 21:47:59
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| johan johanson christen jul 8 1823 grue hedmark norway parents johan pedersen and anne olsdatter married nov30 1816 grue hednark norway |
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volsen
Medium member
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Posted - 06/08/2018 : 05:06:57
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Thank you both so much. I really appreciate it.
Vickie |
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volsen
Medium member
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Posted - 14/08/2018 : 04:44:24
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Originally posted by livtjern
Christian Olsen died 17. oct. 1980 and Ivar A. Olsen died 12. dec. 1971, both in Anaconda, Deer Lodge Co, MT.
Liv
Suspect I found Anna Antonsdt.
Haven't found documents to confirm this but I believe it is
John M Nelson
1876–1949 •
Anna Antonsdt
1893–1966 •
Children (7)
Alice Nelson
1910–1989 •
Harold W Nelson
1919–Deceased •
Helen E Nelson
1922–Deceased •
Anna L Nelson
1925–Deceased •
Richard H Nelson
1929–Deceased •
Ronald J Nelson
1931–Deceased •
Donald Leroy Nelson
1933–2008 •
I am not sure if anyone is still looking but if I find documentation I will post. |
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volsen
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Posted - 14/08/2018 : 04:48:45
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Anna Antonsdt
BIRTH
1893
Norway
DEATH
1966
Last known residence:
German Town, Chenango, New York, United States
Immigration:
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volsen
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Posted - 14/08/2018 : 06:54:59
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http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=1&filnamn=EMIOSLO&gardpostnr=201154&merk=201154#ovre
Anna's children list her as Anna Olsen
Anna Olson
BIRTH
6 May 1892 (Possible BD)
Vinger, Hedmark, Norway (Possible birth location)
DEATH
15 September 1966 (Possible DD)
Not sure what to think. Anna is a DNA match to the Olsen family. Has same immigration date and birth date as Anna Antondt who is speculated to be a sister or daughter of and came to America with Karen Andersen (wife of Johannes Olsen). Can't find a Birth record for either person. Curious of connection. If anyone finds birth record very interested. |
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volsen
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Posted - 14/08/2018 : 08:17:36
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Just realized Johannes had a half brother
Anton Andersen
1867 • Brandval, Hedmark, Norway
Wonder if it could be Johannes niece? Appreciate any thoughts anyone might have. TIA |
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volsen
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Posted - 14/08/2018 : 09:40:05
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volsen
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Posted - 13/10/2018 : 17:10:30
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Originally posted by lynn peterson432
johan johanson christen jul 8 1823 grue hedmark norway parents johan pedersen and anne olsdatter married nov30 1816 grue hednark norway
I received this message in regards to my adding this info to my tree:
I got the above person up as a dupe to my L1KX-GVL.
Just thought I'd let you know that your entry is incorrrect
according to the original church records and bygdebok for Grue Finnskog page 531.
The person born 21 May 1823 and christened 8 July 1823 should be Johannes not Johan. Also, he died at the age of 15 from smallpox, thus he is not married.
The mother's name Anne Olsdatter is correct, but I see you have not registered a father's name.
I'm unable to find any Johan Johansen born in Baksjøbergt on these dates under Baksjøberget in the bygebok nor in the church records.
I am really struggling to figure out this line.
Johannes Olsen
1874–1947
Is my great grandfather
I have his parents as
Ole Anderson
6 May 1841
Brandval, Hedmark, Norway (which DNA confirms)
Karen Johannesdatter
2 November 1849
Vinger, Hedmark, Norway
]However Karen's parents and grand parents are a mystery
I have Kari Anderdatter and Johan Johansen as her parents nor sure if that is correct but closest I could find appreciate any help I could get. Thanks in advance.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/10/2018 : 17:46:35
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No record for Karen in Vinger on November 2, 1849. There is a transcription record for Karen Johannnesdatter born 12 Nov 1849 but Ancestry lists her as being baptized in Grue Parish.
Karen Johansen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Karen Johansen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 12 nov 1849
Baptism Date: 10 mar 1850
Baptism Place: , Grue, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Johan Johansen
Mother: Kari Andersdr
FHL Film Number: 307241
Original record is number 61
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volsen
Medium member
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Posted - 13/10/2018 : 18:02:49
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Originally posted by lyndal40
No record for Karen in Vinger on November 2, 1849. There is a transcription record for Karen Johannnesdatter born 12 Nov 1849 but Ancestry lists her as being baptized in Grue Parish.
Karen Johansen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Karen Johansen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 12 nov 1849
Baptism Date: 10 mar 1850
Baptism Place: , Grue, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Johan Johansen
Mother: Kari Andersdr
FHL Film Number: 307241
Original record is number 61
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Sorry typo ya that's the record I have and I can find records for Kari Andersen that I can corroborate with dna but Johan Johansen is just impossible to find anything for his family. My dad's DNA is 40 percent Finlander and I haven't found a single Finlander in his trees so far. Appreciate any help you can give me. I am hoping I can find one in this line or it may be one or 2 others. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/10/2018 : 18:14:40
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Look at this information again. Posted above
Maybe Lynn has found your couple. If so they married very late in life, he would have been 58 and she 60. She does have the farm name of Løvhaugen attached to her. His farm name looks to be Baksjøberget
Here is the original record.
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I noticed that in the baptism records there is a Johan Petersen listed as one of the fadder. The father of the Johan Johannessen who married Kari Andersdatter in 1881 is also named Johan Pedersen
Look at the witnesses for the baptism of Number 235.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/10/2018 : 18:21:03
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Here is a good candidate for the father of Karen and later husband of Kari Andersdttaer.
Johan Johansen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Johan Johansen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 2 nov 1821
Baptism Date: 2 des 1821 (2 Dec 1821)
Baptism Place: , Grue, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Johan Pedersen
Mother: Kari Johansdr
FHL Film Number: 124285
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johannes olsen from norway, in Montana
