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Hopkins
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Posted - 27/08/2016 :  03:34:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Where have you been searching? database names?
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Hopkins
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Posted - 27/08/2016 :  03:47:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
IF the date information given in the 1st posting, 1st page, of this long thread is correct then Johannes left on a ship called the Oslo. It took passsengers as far as Hull in England as did most emigrant voyages from Norway. Quite a few articles on this website discuss that in great detail.

http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=1&filnamn=emikra1&sokpostnr=91&sokefelt=skjul

http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_ship.asp?sh=osloa

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volsen
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Posted - 27/08/2016 :  04:15:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Do you mind reposting that first link I am having a little trouble getting it to work. TIA

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volsen
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Posted - 27/08/2016 :  04:20:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hopkins

Where have you been searching? database names?



I haven't searched any data bases. Not sure how to do that.

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volsen
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Posted - 27/08/2016 :  04:59:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Did you happen to find His wife and family's information?

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Hopkins
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Posted - 27/08/2016 :  12:08:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Trying the link again -
http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=1&filnamn=emikra1&gardpostnr=177914&sokefelt=skjul

Source: Digitalarkivet website, database - Emigranter over Kristiania 1871-1930 ny

No, I didn't look for the wife and family but the original posting in the thread gave an exact date for them leaving too.

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JaneC
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Posted - 27/08/2016 :  13:05:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Karen departing 13 June 1908 with daughter and two sons: link

Edited by - JaneC on 27/08/2016 13:09:54
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AntonH
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Posted - 27/08/2016 :  16:54:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Karen and three children arrival in to New York.Travelling to Greenfield.

Karen Olsen Dulieu
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Karen Olsen Dulieu
Arrival Date: 27 Jun 1908
Birth Date: abt 1876
Birth Location: Norway
Birth Location Other: vioss
Age: 32
Gender: Female
Place of Origin: Sandinar
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Celtic

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Hopkins
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Posted - 27/08/2016 :  16:57:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
I haven't searched any data bases. Not sure how to do that.


The databases for finding emigrants leaving the various ports of Norway are at the Digitalarkivet website.
The Norwegian language entry - http://arkivverket.no/Digitalarkivet
The English language entry - http://arkivverket.no/eng/content/view/full/629
If you end up in the Norwegian language entry somehow then click on the word ENGLISH which is available along the top of the window the Digitalarkivet displays.
The emigrant databases I personally prefer to search are in the "Old version of the Digital Archives" link which is clickable from the grouping display in the box titled "Useful" on the right hand side of the window.
Next I can refer you to the instructions for using those databases at the following website - http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~norway/DigitalArchives.html
Be sure and study the two articles "Using Digitalarkivet" and "Hints on Searching" first.

Edited by - Hopkins on 27/08/2016 16:58:41
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AntonH
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Posted - 27/08/2016 :  17:09:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Arrival of Johannes Olsen into New York. I suspect the spelling should be Olsen not Alsen. Also travelling to Greenfield, I assume Greenfield North Dakota. Lists a Ole Johannesen brother-in-law of North Dakota as person going to join. .

Johannes Alsen Duelien
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Johannes Alsen Duelien
Arrival Date: 22 Jun 1907
Birth Date: abt 1876
Birth Location Other: vinger
Age: 31
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Celtic

Here is his Emmigation record.

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000584185

Edited by - AntonH on 27/08/2016 17:24:27
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volsen
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Posted - 27/08/2016 :  19:20:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Hopkins for the information and showing how search immigration records. Thank you everyone for your help. I am sure these have to be my great grandparents and family. Any thoughts one why the addition of Dulien to the name? Is this something that occurs with other families or probably something that just occured with mine?

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JaneC
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Posted - 27/08/2016 :  20:57:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40

Obit for Christian Olsen - Anconda Leader Newspaper Oct. 21, 1981

Retired smelterman Christian Olsen, 75,... died Saturday in Anaconda Community Hospital.
Mr. Olsen was born Jan. 3, 1906 in Dulien Etskogen, Norway. He came to the United States in 1908 ...


Dulien is the name of a farm (?) in Eidskog. Children in Norway were given a last name based on their father's first name (Ole's son = Olsen). As a further identifier, an address was sometimes added after the patronymic last name. When Johannes Olsen lived at Dulien farm, he could be called Johannes Olsen Dulien. When a person moved the address name changed. It was not lifelong.

Returning with a label for the link:
Info about EIDSKOG
link

Edited by - JaneC on 28/08/2016 01:13:33
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volsen
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Posted - 27/08/2016 :  21:17:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That makes sense. However, we were working under the assumption that the first post was correct listing Christians birth in Vinger. Does this make everything we found incorrect. should we have been looking in Eidskogen for Christian Iver and Annetts birth records?

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JaneC
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Posted - 27/08/2016 :  21:29:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The link in my last post tells how Eidskog and Vinger have sometimes been merged and sometimes not. You can research the geography of the area in depth as a particular interest.

I don't totally understand what you are asking. Some other forum contributor might have insight. But it is perfectly natural to step that little way across a parish boundary line when moving from marriage place to place where a child is born. So, parish boundaries change, and people move about.

Maybe it will help to say that Norway Heritage researchers don't take anything for granted. They don't assume the opening post is correct. The forum figures out what the original poster is correct about, and what he/she is maybe wrong about, and what he/she wants to know - and the research goes forward from there.

The posted records are the correct records. None of the documentation will change just because Dulien was within Eidskog parish when Christian was born. Does that help?

Here is Christian's birth found in the Eidskog church book 3/1 06 (=03 January 1906).
#19 - Kristian
link

Edited by - JaneC on 27/08/2016 22:13:07
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volsen
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Posted - 27/08/2016 :  22:00:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eibache

quote:
My aunt was curious about cousins Iver supposedly had living in North Dakota.

Iver Alfred Olsen was born Jan 3 1908, see #20.




So is this saying Iver was born in Etskogen It looks like it is. I don't think we ever found Annette. But I see your right.

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