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NancyB
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Posted - 02/09/2013 :  22:44:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have tried searching Digitalarkivet, but find nothing. My gg-grandmother's obituary says she was born Betsy Ann Johnson on 28 Feb 1850 in Bergin, Norway. She was baptized and confirmed in Norway. She came to America at the age of 18, making her home in Northwood, Worth, Iowa. (All of that is from the obituary.)

She is listed on the 1870 census in Northwood as a housekeeper living with the Boyd family. She married Alexander Anderson on 30 May 1874 in Boone County, Iowa. She is listed on the marriage record as Betsy R. Johnson. We have also seen her name listed as Betsy Belle.

It seems I should be able to find something in the Norwegian archives, but I find nothing. I realize her surname was probably not Johnson there. Perhaps Johnsdtr? Even checking my dates has come up empty.

If anyone has suggestions for what to check next, I would be most appreciative!
NancyB

Kċarto
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Posted - 02/09/2013 :  23:19:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Betsy R. Johnson could mean her father was R. Johnsen/Johannesen/Johansen.

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Kċarto
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Posted - 02/09/2013 :  23:22:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There were 13 persons with various spellings for Betsy b. 1850 in Norway in the 1865 census.

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jkmarler
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Posted - 02/09/2013 :  23:28:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a Betsy Hartvig age 22 going to US in 1870:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=3&filnamn=Quebec65&gardpostnr=11818&merk=11818#ovre

The rest of the Betsy Hartvig's family left in 1871:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=5&filnamn=Quebec65&gardpostnr=13875&merk=13875#ovre

Here is Betzy Ivanna Mathilde Hartvig in the 1865 census age 18 b. Bergen:
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=1&filnamn=f61301&gardpostnr=1698&personpostnr=18841&merk=18841#ovre

The whole family left according to the register in 1871 headed to Chicago. Betzy's birthdate not clear 6 /6 or 1/ 8, Utflyttede columns right hand page #12-20:

Source information: Bergen county, Domkirken, Parish register copy nr. F 1 (1856-1879), Migration records 1871, page 79.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8669&idx_id=8669&uid=ny&idx_side=-76

Think this Betsy can be eliminated. The whole family is into clothing construction in the 1880. Just above Theodore is a Betsy Cramer age 30:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=13&filnamn=ILLI1880&gardpostnr=6263&merk=6263#ovre
Edited by - jkmarler on 03/09/2013 01:32:22
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jkmarler
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Posted - 02/09/2013 :  23:35:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bjella is a farmname in Aal, Hallingdal that also means "bell".

Betsy seems very uncommon in Norway and sometimes in America is a diminuative for Elizabeth. So it might depend on when she picked up the name in Norway or US.
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Kċarto
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Posted - 02/09/2013 :  23:37:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NancyB

I have tried searching Digitalarkivet, but find nothing. My gg-grandmother's obituary says she was born Betsy Ann Johnson on 28 Feb 1850 in Bergin, Norway. She was baptized and confirmed in Norway. She came to America at the age of 18, making her home in Northwood, Worth, Iowa. (All of that is from the obituary.)


I guess Bergin was Bergen town, western Norway.

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jkmarler
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Posted - 02/09/2013 :  23:55:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a Betzy Marthilde Tĝnsberg age 15 born Bergen in the 1865 census. And her father is named Jens K Tĝnsberg. Jens might be adapted to John as in Johnson or Johnsdatter:
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=1&filnamn=f61301&gardpostnr=1864&personpostnr=20902&merk=20902#ovre

Less likely. Here is her confirmation #34 birthdate given as 7 Oct 1851:
Source information: Bergen county, Korskirken, Parish register (official) nr. C 3 (1854-1868), Confirmation records women 1867, page 226.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1966&idx_id=1966&uid=ny&idx_side=-227
Edited by - jkmarler on 03/09/2013 00:17:54
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jkmarler
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Posted - 03/09/2013 :  01:41:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a Betsie Ĝhreim leaving in 1870 (please note none with name starting with Bet leaving in 1868):

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=24&filnamn=Quebec65&gardpostnr=13820&merk=13820#ovre

Out on her own working for a living in 1865 b. Bergen:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=5&filnamn=f61246&gardpostnr=572&personpostnr=5463&merk=5463#ovre

Betsy Ohreim's probable baptism #12 31 Dec 1849 father's given name Jacob Ohreim and her name as Betty Olufine:
Source information: Bergen county, Domkirken, Parish register copy nr. B 3 (1849-1856), Birth and baptism records women 1850, page 122.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8655&idx_id=8655&uid=ny&idx_side=-122

This may be a coincidence but there are four people leaving in 1866 whose last name is given as Orheim, including a Berte Marie the same name as Betsy above mother's name:

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=4&filnamn=Quebec65&gardpostnr=5501&merk=5501#ovre
Edited by - jkmarler on 04/09/2013 07:49:58
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AntonH
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Posted - 03/09/2013 :  02:24:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Arrival of Berte Ohreim into Canada.

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Bertie Ohreim
Gender: Female
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Date of Arrival: 3 Jun 1870
Vessel: Theresa
Search Ship Database:
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Quebec
Port of Departure: Bergen, Norway
Roll: C-4525
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Hopkins
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Posted - 03/09/2013 :  02:31:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It should be noted that Betsy is listed in at least two censuses while residing in Iowa as born in Norway in 1852. Therefore some flexibility in expected birth year should be considered.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 03/09/2013 :  02:38:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for info re age in census. If she left when 18 and was born 1852 parts of the obit and family lore would still work.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 03/09/2013 :  02:45:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Opening up for those born in 1852 finds this promising lass Betsy Rytter ae 13 born Bergen daughter of Jan Rytter :

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=73&filnamn=f61301&gardpostnr=2394&personpostnr=26789&merk=26789#ovre

Here is this Betsy's confirmation, birthdate is 9 March 1853 but father is now recorded as John.:
Source information: Bergen county, Korskirken, Curate´s parish register nr. A 4 (1856-1869), Confirmation records 1867, page 117.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8349&idx_id=8349&uid=ny&idx_side=-118

This Betsy is out. Here she is in the 1875 census in Bergen:

http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=3&filnamn=f71301&gardpostnr=33066&merk=33066#ovre
Edited by - jkmarler on 03/09/2013 03:46:21
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AntonH
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Posted - 03/09/2013 :  02:48:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probaby Betsy Anderson in 1910 US Censius. Living with daughter Ida.

1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Betsy Anderson
Age in 1910: 60
Birth Year: abt 1850
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1910: Marshall, Pocahontas, Iowa
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Mother-in-law
Marital Status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
Charley F Anderson 38
Ida C Anderson 30
Clarence W Anderson 5
Beda P Anderson 3
Betsy Anderson 60
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jkmarler
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Posted - 03/09/2013 :  03:08:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What does her birthmonth and year look like in the 1900 census? Does she live to 1925 when the Iowa state census asks for parents' names?
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Hopkins
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Posted - 03/09/2013 :  03:14:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think I'd look long and hard for Betsy in the 1925 Iowa State Census. That census asked everyone for their father's name and their mother's name (maiden name) and it MIGHT have some notation of when she immigrated to the US.

I agree that she was in Pocahontas Co. IA for the 1910 census and she is shown as dying in that same county in 1934.

I grew up not far from that county and am still puzzled that I've never heard of Swan Lake (except of course as a ballet). Her burial location in Laurens - of course, I know where that is.
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AntonH
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Posted - 03/09/2013 :  03:24:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is Ida in the 1925 Iowa Census, No information about her mother.

Iowa, State Census Collection, 1836-1925
Name: Ida C Anderson
Birth Year: abt 1881
Birth Place: Iowa
Gender: Female
Race: White
Marital Status: Married
Census Date: 1 Jan 1925
Residence State: Iowa
Residence County: Pocahontas
Locality: Swan Lake
Relation to Head: Wife
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Father: Alec Anderson
Father's Birthplace: Sweden
Spouse Name: C F Anderson
Roll: IA1925_1885
Line: 11
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
C F Anderson 52
Ida C Anderson 44
Clarence Anderson 20
Beda Anderson 18
Alice Anderson 14
Donald Anderson 5
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