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lornejohnson
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Posted - 07/07/2015 :  16:16:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Kåarto

The Bygdebok from Bø "Bø-soga" 3 volumes are online, but not updated, they were published 1986, long before the records were online.

Bygdebok from Seljord, 3 volumes from 1942-43 by Tov Flatin are not online. He was born 1878, so he or somone he knew had knowledge to many of those he wrote about. .

The Digitsed Real Estate Registers from Telemark are not online, they will be.
The Probate registers for Telemark are online but not categorized by municipalities.

Em. records if you know where to look.

One chance is to come across something on internet or somone out there find this topic and has the answer.

Kåre



Anyone know how to access Bo-Saga ?

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lornejohnson
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Posted - 08/07/2015 :  20:44:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Evidence that the family moved to Bo, Telemark as early as 1793 .....both Bergit (number 73) and Gunnild listed under the Bo Parish records. Father listed as Halvor Rodklev.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061208060255.jpg

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Kåarto
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Posted - 08/07/2015 :  21:05:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You are right.
Bergit born August 21 bapt Sunday August 25. 1793
Halvor Rødklev and wife Ingebor.

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Kåarto
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Posted - 08/07/2015 :  22:50:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Halvor Jørgensen and Ingebor Jensdatter (Halvors second wife) on farm Østerlie Midgaarden in Bø with three children 1801.
Notes on the upper part of the document "rødklev" link

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AntonH
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Posted - 09/07/2015 :  04:10:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Halvor Jorgensen was married first to Anne Gunleksdtr. as stated in your excerpt from the Bygdebok page 9. Here is the marriage.

Halvor Jorgensen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Halvor Jorgensen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 31 jul 1768
Marriage Place: Seljord, Telemark, Norway
Spouse: Anne Gunleksdr
FHL Film Number: 127039
Reference ID: 2:1P72MRH

They did have children, including this one.

Jorgen Halvorsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Jorgen Halvorsen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 24 jun 1768
Baptism Place: Seljord, Telemark, Norway
Father: Halvor Jorgensen
Mother: Anne Gunleksdr
FHL Film Number: 127039
Reference ID: 2:1P6V04H

And a second Jorgen

Jorgen Halvorsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Jorgen Halvorsen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 25 jun 1769
Baptism Place: Seljord, Telemark, Norway
Father: Halvor Jorgensen
Mother: Anne Gunleksdr
FHL Film Number: 127039
Reference ID: 2:1P6V2JB

And daughter Helge

Helge Halvorsdatter
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Helge Halvorsdatter
[Helge Jorgensen]
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 13 mar 1773
Baptism Place: Seljord, Telemark, Norway
Father: Halvor Jorgensen
Mother: Anne Gunleksdr
FHL Film Number: 127039
Reference ID: 2:1P6VCNP

Edited by - AntonH on 09/07/2015 04:17:44
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 09/07/2015 :  05:00:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
According to Bydgebok, both Jorgen's died as infants. There is evidence of a third Jorgen b 1785 from Halvor's second wife Ingeborg Jensdat.

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lornejohnson
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Posted - 09/07/2015 :  05:37:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Kåarto

Halvor Jørgensen and Ingebor Jensdatter (Halvors second wife) on farm Østerlie Midgaarden in Bø with three children 1801.
Notes on the upper part of the document "rødklev" link

Kåre



Good find Kare ...this confirms the family in Bo census 1801 is the Rodklev Jorgensen family from Seljord.. Looks promising that we have the right family for MY Johanes Halvorsen.

However, it still remains to be inconclusive that this Johanes Halvorsen, son of Halvor Jorgensen and Ingeborg Jensdat. is my ancestor ...father of my great great grandfather. I've looked at the godparents of the babies hoping for a definitive tie from one generation to another with just limited luck. Any suggestions? A Bydgebok for Boe would shed some light on this ?

Lorne Johnson

Edited by - lornejohnson on 09/07/2015 08:03:34
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 09/07/2015 :  18:17:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So I have a good history of the Jorgensen family and there movement from Seljord to Boe circa 1793 .....Their son (presumably) Johannes Halvorsen b. 1787 married Gunild Nilsdat. in Boe 1818 ....she was also born in Boe ....all of their children were born in Boe with the exception of Ingeborg who was born in Sauda 1825....and they left Boe to emigrate to America 1843.... Seems the family was quite mobile between the two locations Boe and Sauda/Seljord.
With Ingeborg being the only child NOT born in Boe ....perhaps there is a better chance of her Godparents being members of the Jorgensen family ....who also lived in Seljord.

Please translate the names from Ingeborg's confirmation attached: # 30
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061211310451.jpg

(Am I correct in assuming Sauda = Seljord)

Lorne Johnson

Edited by - lornejohnson on 09/07/2015 18:26:42
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Kåarto
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Posted - 09/07/2015 :  18:48:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by lornejohnson
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(Am I correct in assuming Sauda = Seljord)




Saude is an old name for Sauherad.

Sillejord is an old name for Seljord.

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Kåarto
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Posted - 09/07/2015 :  18:50:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Please translate the names from Ingeborg's confirmation attached: # 30
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061211310451.jpg




Ingeborg Johannesdatter b. June 19. 1925 bapt. June 26. 1825 in Næs "kirke" church.
Parents;
Johannes Halvorsen and Gunnild Nielsdatter farmers on Kise in Næs.
Godparents; Aaste Tollevsdatter Kise, Anne Olsdatter Kiise, Ole Johnsen Sættre, Gunder Olsen Kise, Ellef Tostensen Sølverud.

Nes/Næs church, Sauherad build 1180

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 09/07/2015 19:00:21
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 09/07/2015 :  19:41:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kåarto

quote:
Originally posted by lornejohnson
[br

(Am I correct in assuming Sauda = Seljord)




Saude is an old name for Sauherad.

Sillejord is an old name for Seljord.

Kåre



Thanks Kare .....What would be the travel distance from Boe to Sauherad and Boe to Seljord? Are Sauherad and Seljord in proximity to each other? ....both in Telemark right?

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Kåarto
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Posted - 09/07/2015 :  19:51:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Telemark, yes.
They almost share the same borders, depending on where to travel in the parish.
Today ca 30 minutes or less by car.

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Kåarto
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Posted - 09/07/2015 :  19:59:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
But they returned to Bø, because on Sept. 19, 1841 they bapt. a son Anders born Sept. 10 in Bø church.
Both parents came from Kleven under Askilt in Bø, see #85

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lornejohnson
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Posted - 09/07/2015 :  20:40:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yep , all of the children were born in Boe with the exception of Ingelborg (born Sauda). Mother Gunild was born in Boe (Kleven under Askilt) but father Johannes Halvorsen was born 1787 on Rue farm Seljord. Ander's was born in 1841 and in 1843 he was an infant on his way to America.

Question remains....Is the Johanes Halvorsen born 1787 on Rue farm Seljord, the same Johanes Halvorsen that married Gunild Nilsdat. Kleven ??? ....the paternal connection to my genealogy. If they had only listed his farm name on his marriage information !

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Kåarto
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Posted - 09/07/2015 :  21:05:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bachelor Johannes Halvorsen,26 years from Kleven Askilt in Bø, when he married Gunnild, see right page #32

Born ca 1792 plus/minus.

I believe he was born on farm Østerlie Midgaarden in Bø mentioned in the 1801 census on page 10.
Age 13 b. ca 1788 plus/minus.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 09/07/2015 21:17:06
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