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jkmarler
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Posted - 11/07/2015 :  16:53:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40

Looking further, the Ancestry.com data base has her name as Ane as well.

Ane Knudsdatter
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Ane Knudsdatter
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 27 mar 1818
Baptism Date: 29 mar 1818
Baptism Place: Bo, Telemark, Norway
Father: Knud Iversen
Mother: Ane Halvorsdr
FHL Film Number: 278270
Reference ID: 2:1SNV3XM

and her twin broher

Name: Knud Knudsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 27 mar 1818
Baptism Date: 29 mar 1818
Baptism Place: Bo, Telemark, Norway
Father: Knud Iversen
Mother: Ane Halvorsdr
FHL Film Number: 278270
Reference ID: 2:1SNV452



Look for yourself, there are 2 Knuds both on the boy's page. Unless there is something else further on like a clarification or an unexplained confirmation record for an Ane. Clearly something is wrong, where the error lies is open to judgement.

Here is Knud (the former brother-in-law) and new wife Margit's first child #36 a girl name Eglev not Anne:
Source information: Telemark county, Bø, Parish register (official) nr. 6 (1815-1831), Birth and baptism records 1819, page 66-67.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1349&idx_id=1349&uid=ny&idx_side=-38
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 11/07/2015 :  19:03:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

quote:
Originally posted by lornejohnson

Johannes and Gunilds Children Baptism Witnesses:

Anders b 1841 Boe
Krysti Johansdat
Margit Halvorsdat Kaasa
Halvor Halvorsen Skougen
Tosten Olsen Hougeland
Guro Handsdat Askilt

Johannes b 1834 Boe
Margit Indlaggen ?
Gunild ??
Annund Hord.....?
Gunild Nilsdat

Ingeborg b 1825 Sauda
Aaste Tollopsen ?
Anne Olsdat
Gunder Olsen
Ole Johnsen
?? Tosten

Nils b 1822 Boe
Aafte Askilt
Aafte Mijloe???
Ingelborg Kleven
Knud Togsol ?
Ole Lunde ?

Halvor b 1819 Boe
Gunild Volene
Margit Hapsot ???
Birgit Lie
2 more ..can't read







Halvor's
Gunild Voldene
Margit (I wonder if it is Køphol?)
Bergit Lie
Knud Iverson (the former brother-in-law)
Anund Haslekaasa



If these names are accurate Jackie, this is very positive information for making the connection between generations. These are three witnesses of Halvor's confirmation and there is also the Knud Kophol witness for Nils ....all four make the generation leap. Very Nice.

Lorne Johnson
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AntonH
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Posted - 11/07/2015 :  23:01:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A Family Tree shows Anne Knudsdatter Kophøl married a Ole Gunnarsen Næs. This is likely their marriage.

Anne Knudsdr
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
ame: Anne Knudsdr
[Anne Iversen]
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Birth Date: 1818
Marriage Date: 29 nov 1843
Marriage Place: Bo, Telemark, Norway
Father: Knud Iversen
Spouse: Ole Gundersen
FHL Film Number: 278270
Reference ID: 2:1SP1ZLP

See also number 33

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1350&idx_id=1350&uid=ny&idx_side=-319

This information is attached to the tree

"Kophøl in Bø, Ralleamtet. Ane var enten tvilling eller trilling. Ane was either twin or triplet. Det er ført opp at det er døpt 3 barn til Knud Iversen og Ane Halvorsdtr. It is recorded that there are baptized three children Knud Iversen and Ane Halvorsdtr. den 29.mars 1818, Ane, og to gutter som het Knud. the 29th March 1818, Ane, and two boys named Knud."

Here is the baptism record for the Ane Knudsdatter. See number 24

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1349&idx_id=1349&uid=ny&idx_side=-26

Edited by - AntonH on 11/07/2015 23:12:51
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AntonH
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Posted - 11/07/2015 :  23:20:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probbly the marriage of Ane Knudsdatter and Ole Gundersen.

Anne Knudsdr
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
ame: Anne Knudsdr
[Anne Iversen]
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Birth Date: 1818
Marriage Date: 29 nov 1843
Marriage Place: Bo, Telemark, Norway
Father: Knud Iversen
Spouse: Ole Gundersen
FHL Film Number: 278270
Reference ID: 2:1SP1ZLP

See also number 33

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1350&idx_id=1350&uid=ny&idx_side=-319

Edited by - AntonH on 11/07/2015 23:22:37
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 11/07/2015 :  23:51:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Witness Eric J. Helland shown in marriage is Ane's son in law .....married to Annes daughter Ingeborg Knudsdat Kophol. Ingeborg also had twins Knud and Gunild 1852


Probbly the marriage of Ane Knudsdatter and Ole Gundersen.

Anne Knudsdr
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
ame: Anne Knudsdr
[Anne Iversen]
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Birth Date: 1818
Marriage Date: 29 nov 1843
Marriage Place: Bo, Telemark, Norway
Father: Knud Iversen
Spouse: Ole Gundersen
FHL Film Number: 278270
Reference ID: 2:1SP1ZLP

See also number 33

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1350&idx_id=1350&uid=ny&idx_side=-319

Edited by - lyndal40 on 11/07/2015 23:22:37

Lorne Johnson

Edited by - lornejohnson on 12/07/2015 00:04:19
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jkmarler
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Posted - 12/07/2015 :  03:07:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Interesting resolution that it was triplets not twins...

#85 Anne Knudsdatter's confirmation:
Source information: Telemark county, Bø, Parish register (official) nr. 7 (1831-1848), Confirmation records 1834, page 195.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1350&idx_id=1350&uid=ny&idx_side=-222

#85 on pg 633 for Anne's vaccination farm given as Østerli:
ource information: Telemark county, Bø, Parish register (official) nr. 6 (1815-1831), Imigration records 1818-1820, page 632-633.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1349&idx_id=1349&uid=ny&idx_side=-341

Didn't find the 2 Knuds so perhaps they have died or were living elsewhere.

Edited by - jkmarler on 12/07/2015 03:15:44
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AntonH
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Posted - 12/07/2015 :  17:53:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think you are right. This is likely one of the boys, died in 1819. See number 11.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1349&idx_id=1349&uid=ny&idx_side=-111

Edited by - AntonH on 12/07/2015 17:53:56
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 12/07/2015 :  20:50:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anne Eriksdatter 1840 # 94 ...daughter of Ingeborg Knudsdat & Eric Johnsen.....looking at witnesses

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051011050098.jpg

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lornejohnson
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Posted - 12/07/2015 :  20:55:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ingeborg Eriksdatter 1842 #98...daughter #2 of Ingeborg Knudsdat

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051011050118.jpg

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lornejohnson
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Posted - 12/07/2015 :  21:02:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gunild Eriksdat. 1846, #123 , page 124 daughter #3 ...note no witnesses ??...possible stillborn ??

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051011050147.jpg


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lornejohnson
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Posted - 12/07/2015 :  21:06:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
John Eriksen .. 1846 , #39 page 142.first son of Ingeborg Eriksdat

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051011050169.jpg

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lornejohnson
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Posted - 12/07/2015 :  21:16:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
and the twins Gunild and Knud b 1851 ...page 32, # 98,99 ....noted witness Margit Halvorsdat Kaassa ....also a witness to Johanes Halvorsen and Gunild Nilsdat. son Anders b 1841 Bingo ! Please confirm my translation here.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051011050480.jpg

Lorne Johnson

Edited by - lornejohnson on 12/07/2015 21:32:25
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jkmarler
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Posted - 13/07/2015 :  00:54:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lornejohnson

and the twins Gunild and Knud b 1851 ...page 32, # 98,99 ....noted witness Margit Halvorsdat Kaassa ....also a witness to Johanes Halvorsen and Gunild Nilsdat. son Anders b 1841 Bingo ! Please confirm my translation here.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051011050480.jpg



I think it's Margit Halvorsdatter Slaatta.
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 13/07/2015 :  00:59:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yep, when I look at it again I think you're right Jackie. I'll work on the Knud Iversen/ Anne Halvorsdat children next. ....although an initial look didn't reveal anything.

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jkmarler
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Posted - 13/07/2015 :  01:06:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lornejohnson

Gunild Eriksdat. 1846, #123 , page 124 daughter #3 ...note no witnesses ??...possible stillborn ??
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20051011050147.jpg



She was baptized at home by John Erikson Hellend. Pastor wouldn't have known who were godparents unless family told him.
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