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padow
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New Zealand
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Posted - 12/04/2014 :  02:03:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello everyone

I am trying to verify some information from a Nz death certificate for an Olden OLSEN. who died in NZ in 1936 aged 75 years.

His fathers name is given as Ola OLSEN . His mother Fredraka OLSEN( maiden name LARSEN). Place of birth Ork (?) Nedalen (kedalen?) Norway. His date of birth could be 1861 if the death information is correst or 1870 according to the details given on his Nz Naturalisation records. I have tried the Norwegian Digital Archives without success as I didn't know the correct County to search !

I would appreciate any help on locating this person. Is it possible that his name is an anglicised version of a Norwegian name eg Auden ?

Thanks Padow

P.A. Downes

Hopkins
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USA
3351 Posts
Posted - 12/04/2014 :  02:35:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The free databases at FamilySearch.org indicate an 'Ole Olsen' born in 1861 in Orkdal, Sør-Trøndelag, Norway who might be of interest.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N4RG-3BC

If you can find out WHEN he arrived in New Zealand then perhaps searching the Norwegian emigration databases might be able to prove the possibility of that individual either yea or nea.

There is something called Nedalen in Sør-Trøndelag but I am personally unfamiliar with that area of study.
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 12/04/2014 :  08:47:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He was baptized Ole, #49.
Einar
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 12/04/2014 :  09:06:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Candidate Ole in the 1865 census:
http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=2&filnamn=f61638&gardpostnr=1114&personpostnr=5962&merk=5962#ovre
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padow
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New Zealand
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Posted - 13/04/2014 :  00:54:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks everyone for the help. You are all amazing.

Thanks Hopkins I think I have found the person I was looking for. Calculating from the information on his death print out he probably arrived in NZ in 1888. Is there an emigration data base we could check?

Thanks Eibache and jk Marler for the very valuable information.

JK Marler---the 1865 census seems to show a father mother and a sister Oline. Are there any later censuses where we can trace the family further. ?

Regards Padow

P.A. Downes
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 13/04/2014 :  01:26:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1875 census mother has died between 1865 and 1875, and very likely also the paternal grandparents who were living with them in 1865 as well, they're still on the same farm as in 1865:

http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=13&filnamn=f71638&gardpostnr=1034&personpostnr=6580&merk=6580#ovre

Most likely departure port for Ørkedal is Trondhjem, but if he left employed as a sailor he may or may not be included in the Emigrants through Trondhjem database.

Here is the search engine for the Trondhjem departures. Unfortunately you have an unenviable name Ole Olsen to be looking for, the most common name in Norway:
http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=26&filnamn=EMITROND&fjernsok=true
Edited by - jkmarler on 13/04/2014 01:46:41
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padow
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New Zealand
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Posted - 13/04/2014 :  01:55:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks again. JK Marler Would it be possible to trace the marriage of the father and mother? Ole OLSEN and Fredrikke Larsdatter. They probably married around 1860 although I realise Ole junior may not have been their first child. I'll try the emigrant database you suggested.

Regards Padow
P.A. Downes
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 13/04/2014 :  08:38:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
#25
Source information: Sør-Trøndelag county, Orkdal, Parish register (official) nr. 668A06 (1854-1869), Marriage records 1860, page 227.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2394&idx_id=2394&uid=ny&idx_side=-228
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 13/04/2014 :  08:54:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ole Olsen and Frederikke Larsdatter had a daughter Olina April 10 1864, #97.
Einar
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 13/04/2014 :  08:55:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Fredrikke Larsdatter death #88:
Source information: Sør-Trøndelag county, Orkdal, Parish register (official) nr. 668A07 (1870-1880), Death and burial records 1874, page 371.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5723&idx_id=5723&uid=ny&idx_side=-291
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 13/04/2014 :  09:28:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Frederika Larsdatter was born Oct 28 1831, #15.
Her parents were Lars Sivertsen, Rye and Martha Olsdatter.

Lars Sivertsen, Bøe and Martha Olsdatter, Skjolborg were married July 8 1819, #19.

Frederikas siblings were:
Helena Larsdatter, Nov 15 1818
Kierstina Larsdatter, April 18 1822
Marithe Larsdatter, Apr 12 1825
Martha Larsdatter, Aug 2 1827
Sigri Larsdatter, Sep 30 1829
Johanna Larsdatter, May 2 1838
Einar
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 13/04/2014 :  09:41:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ole Olsen was born Nov 16 1834, #30.
His parents were Ole Larsen, Dørdal and Karen Christensdatter.

Ole Larsen, Snossen and Karen Christensdatter, Øren were married July 8 1824, #17.
Einar
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padow
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New Zealand
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Posted - 13/04/2014 :  23:56:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Once again thanks to you all. You are all so helpful. So much excellent information in such a short time is amazing !
JK Marler thanks for searching the marriage records for Ole and Frederika. Unfortunately they were too difficult for me to read and there was no English translations of the headings to help me make sense of what I could see. Would you be kind enough to translate the names of the couple the date and the place so that I can add them to my records.

Regards Padow
P.A. Downes
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padow
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New Zealand
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Posted - 14/04/2014 :  00:10:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello eibache. I am a little puzzled about the details of the marriage of Ole Larsen (Snossen ? place of birth?) and Karen Christensdatter (Oren? ) married on July 8 1824. Could you please explain Snossen and Oren for someone who is a novice at reading Norwegian records.?

Thanks for all your research on my behalf.
P.A. Downes
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Kåarto
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Norway
5861 Posts
Posted - 14/04/2014 :  00:23:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by padow

Once again thanks to you all. You are all so helpful. So much excellent information in such a short time is amazing !
JK Marler thanks for searching the marriage records for Ole and Frederika. Unfortunately they were too difficult for me to read and there was no English translations of the headings to help me make sense of what I could see. Would you be kind enough to translate the names of the couple the date and the place so that I can add them to my records.

Regards Padow

Ole Olsen was a bachelor from farm Dørdal and Fredrikka Larsdatter, maid from farm Rye.
Fathers; Ole Larsen Dørdal and Lars Siversen Rye

Orkdal

Kåre
Edited by - Kåarto on 14/04/2014 00:25:21
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padow
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New Zealand
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Posted - 14/04/2014 :  01:01:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Kaarto. It is good to have the information clarified.

Regards Padow
P.A. Downes
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