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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 11/02/2015 : 17:57:10
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In case you'd like to search for Svend Larsen's death, here is a link to Norway Digital Archives.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_id=4898
Deaths and burials are in the first group (on the white background). Select 1893 to click through, page by page, through January 1895. Names are on the left-hand page. Additional information crosses the center. |
Edited by - JaneC on 11/02/2015 21:36:19 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 11/02/2015 : 20:22:48
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Another mistake in the tree mentioned.
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August Simensen born 26 December 1873 at Berg in Halden
- he was born in the Berg parish in Østfold, see #2.
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 11/02/2015 : 20:39:33
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Interesting.
Has anyone had time to search for Svend August Swenson's father's death? Seems to be a priority to develop a picture of Svend August Swenson's life.
I think that tree has a good chance of offering some truths about descendants of Tomine, maybe enabling johnswensen a chance, possibly, to connect (and possibly share corrections, hear family stories, etc). |
Edited by - JaneC on 11/02/2015 20:44:23 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 11/02/2015 : 20:59:10
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| I have searched both Halden parish and Halden probate records for the dates 1893-1895 but did not find Svend August Larsen. The Svend Larsen mentioned by Jane was in the probate dødsfallprotokol was survived by a widow and 11 children all adult, so cannot be Svend August Larsen. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2015 : 21:29:30
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And the other Svend was born 1833 in Norway rather than 1865 in Sweden.
If he died elsewhere, would his death be noted in home parish of his wife and children? Probably there's no definitive answer to that.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 11/02/2015 : 21:38:22
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One other possibility is that the death occured in Halden sometime later than before Sven August Swensen's baptism and the "cross" on the name was maybe put there later by the pastor for some other reason, although typically it denotes that someone whose name is marked is dead.
His occupation was stone work, did he change to sea-going and die abroad with death revealed much later? |
Edited by - jkmarler on 11/02/2015 21:40:17 |
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jkmarler
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johnswensen
Starting member
Australia
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Posted - 12/02/2015 : 03:21:10
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Hmmm so it appears that we have unknown distant relatives in both Norway, Possibly Sweden and perhaps Canada. Now I am beginning to get a bit confused. I am an Australian Soldier currently in a remote location in the outback in South Australia. I have to use my Army internet and unfortunately it will not allow me to look at any pages from www.geni.com. I would be keen to see where Tomine's second family settled, additionally I would like to try and find poor Svend's Swedish Roots....If possible.
You people have been an enormous help already. My eldery Father was very suprised at the information that you have provided me thus far. Thanks again.
Regards,
John Swensen |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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johnswensen
Starting member
Australia
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Posted - 12/02/2015 : 07:04:00
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| We have all of "Gus" Swensen's Australian life sorted out. He was a member of both the Freemasons and the Royal Adelusian Order of Buffaloes in Adelaide South Australia. The family still holds all of the newspaper clippings of his funeral and memorial services, we even have some newsclippings of some of the more unusual Customs investigations that he was involved in back in the 1920s, as well as a fair bit of detail on his life as an Australian Soldier in WW1 and WW2, as well as his time as a Mariner, and Lighthouse Keeper at most of the Lighthouses within South Australia..... it is the Norwegian and, as we found out only yesterday from you very helpful people, his hitherto unknown Swedish connection, (his Father), that we have no record of. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 12/02/2015 : 08:27:41
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Since Svend was a sailor in Norway first you may want to try to get a copy of his sailor roll. These records include mustering in and out dates, names of ships, ports of call and the like. Here is contact information for the Oslo archives which appears to be the closest to Østfold. They do respond to email requests. You should include his full name, birthdate and birthplace and approximately when he was sailing:.
The Regional State Archives in Oslo
Statsarkivet i Oslo
Visiting address: Folke Bernadottes vei 21
P.O.Box 4013 Ullevål stadion,
N- 0806 Oslo
NORWAY
Telephone: 22 02 26 00
Telefax: 22 23 74 89
E-mail: statsarkivet.oslo@arkivverket.no |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2015 : 12:20:43
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[i]Can't be he is a married man, his wife's name is Tilda Charlotta Larsson
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Source information: Østfold county, Landsoknet in Moss, Parish register (official) nr. III 1 (1878-1894), Imigration records 1888-1891, page 124.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5473&idx_id=5473&uid=ny&idx_side=-116
I think the entry for Thilda Charlotta Larsson on the right-hand page opposite Sven falls under heading 1891 (dated 1890). She is coming from Grums, Sweden, with son Olaf and husband Olaf Fredrik Magnusson. Entry says they married 26 Dec 1887.
http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=18&filnamn=If01001812&gardpostnr=10587#nedre
I love your find of Sven August Larsson born 24 January 1865 in Augerum, K, S (which I think means Augerum, Karlskrona, Sweden), coming from (not stated) and entering Moss October 1888. Sven and Tomine married Nov 1888. Need to find that birth, see if the father is same as father in the marriage of Svend and Tomine, Johan August Larson. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2015 : 13:01:19
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Originally posted by johnswensen
Hmmm so it appears that we have unknown distant relatives in both Norway, Possibly Sweden and perhaps Canada. Now I am beginning to get a bit confused. I am an Australian Soldier currently in a remote location in the outback in South Australia. I have to use my Army internet and unfortunately it will not allow me to look at any pages from www.geni.com. I would be keen to see where Tomine's second family settled, additionally I would like to try and find poor Svend's Swedish Roots....If possible.
You people have been an enormous help already. My eldery Father was very suprised at the information that you have provided me thus far. Thanks again.
Regards,
John Swensen
Hi John, I'll return to my earlier post about that GENI tree and add what details I can from it. (Will do later) Tree doesn't answer all your questions, but tree creator may know more than is posted, may have photo of Tomine, etc. At least one Norway Heritage contributor has a GENI account, may possibly be willing to attempt making contact on your behalf. Tree gave no hint of family members outside Norway. Eibache has been kind enough to check the genealogy and point out corrections. But seeking more informal and personal family history, you may find the tree especially helpful that way.
Children of Svend's siblings (if any) certainly could be living and would be first cousins to your dad - a close relationship, genetically speaking.
I briefly looked for Johan Alfred Fritjof Svendsen in North America. Maybe he'll turn up in a further search. Hope so. Ditto the other boys from before August Olsen, not included in the tree. |
Edited by - JaneC on 12/02/2015 13:34:46 |
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vivi
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Sven August Swensen, Orphan Born 15 May 1894
