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AntonH
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 Posted - 07/11/2015 : 16:47:54
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Here is an H Sandersen arrival into England, birth abt 1874. Not much useful information on the original manifest. Port of Embarkation is listed as Adelaide. Landing port is Pliymouth.
Mr H Sandersen
in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Mr H Sandersen
Birth Date: abt 1874
Age: 22
Arrival Date: 14 Feb 1896
Ship Name: Pentaur |
Edited by - AntonH on 07/11/2015 16:49:54 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/11/2015 : 17:20:06
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Originally posted by AngelaBoger
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Originally posted by jkmarler
[quote]Originally posted by jkmarler
Could someone on forum please look at the location where Olaf went rømt. Is that Durban?
I'm not sure exactly what it says there, but underneath England says "ditto", so it was somewhere in England, if I'm reading that correctly.
Under the column labelled hvor is the word I'm wondering about.
Fra means from, Til means to and hvor is part of the column asking (I think) where he mustered out. |
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AngelaBoger
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Posted - 07/11/2015 : 17:45:28
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Originally posted by jkmarler
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Originally posted by AngelaBoger
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Originally posted by jkmarler
[quote]Originally posted by jkmarler
Could someone on forum please look at the location where Olaf went rømt. Is that Durban?
I'm not sure exactly what it says there, but underneath England says "ditto", so it was somewhere in England, if I'm reading that correctly.
Under the column labelled hvor is the word I'm wondering about.
Fra means from, Til means to and hvor is part of the column asking (I think) where he mustered out.
I think it says London... If you look lower down someone's says Lpool (for Liverpool).. So the first letter looks like an L to me. |
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AngelaBoger
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Posted - 07/11/2015 : 17:47:37
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Here is an H Sandersen arrival into England, birth abt 1874. Not much useful information on the original manifest. Port of Embarkation is listed as Adelaide. Landing port is Pliymouth.
Mr H Sandersen
in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Mr H Sandersen
Birth Date: abt 1874
Age: 22
Arrival Date: 14 Feb 1896
Ship Name: Pentaur
Hmmm... Seems promising, but it doesn't say anything about his nationality does it? Does it have a picture of the passenger list? |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/11/2015 : 18:24:01
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| No no nationality listed, he could very easily be English. Ancestry.com where I found the record does let you look at a scanned copy of the original manifest. |
Edited by - AntonH on 07/11/2015 22:31:49 |
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AngelaBoger
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Posted - 23/03/2018 : 19:54:11
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Hi guys,
I finally have a little bit of new information. I found his application for naturalization in South Africa, which gave the following information:-
He was born in Porsgrund.
In 1904 he said his age at his next birthday would be 30, so we still have a birth year of circa 1874.
On 12 November 1904 he claimed to have been residing in South Africa for 3 years 5 months, so his estimated arrival in South Africa was June 1901.
His occupation was that of a seaman.
Does anyone have advice now on how to find some documentation on him?
Thank you!
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 23/03/2018 : 21:29:12
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Well Porsgrunn is in the county (fylke) of Telemark so we can look there. I do not think any of the candidates we surfaced earlier were from Telemark.
Useful to be able to narrow the search down to one county. But I am not finding a lot of good candidates. Maybe only this one.
Eilef Hans. Sanden in the 1900 Norwegian Census
1900
This may be the baptism record for Eilef, born in Sauherad, Telemark. Should be called Eilef Hansen. That is probably what the Saude stand for in the 1900 Census.
Name: Eilef Sigurdsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 9 jun 1876
Baptism Date: 18 jun 1876
Baptism Place: Sauherad, Telemark, Norway
Father: Hans Sigurdsen
Mother: Kirsti Anne Eilefsdatter
FHL Film Number: 1282566
Reference ID: p12 #30
#30
Confirmation
#1
The NHDC version of the 1900 Census shows him as Eilef Sanden and does not show a connection to him for 1910 Census.
NHDC 1900 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 23/03/2018 : 22:26:58
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I wonder if this is Eilefs mother in the 1865 Census, not yet married, but living on the Sanden farm.
1865
Most likely
her as she married Hans Sigurdsen in 1869. #7
One of their sons left for Wisconsin in 1895
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AngelaBoger
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Posted - 23/03/2018 : 22:59:49
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| Hmmm.. That doesn't really sound like a match either. :( |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 24/03/2018 : 15:54:45
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Finding Porsgrunn as his birth place was positive but the negative side is that Sander is a very uncommon name in Telemark. In the 1865 Census there is only one Sander found for Telemark and not in Porsgrun but in Brevik. However Brevik and Porsgrunn can be considered close enough to be one. He is however of an age where he could have fathered a child in 1876.
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However in the 1875 Census he is using the first name of Ingvald, Not married and no children.
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In 1875 Census there are a few more Sandersen names in Telemark again mostly in Brevik. Here is a family with the father having the last name Sandersen and the children also using the last name of Sandersen. No Hermann so he would have to have been born after 1875 to fit this family.
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You can also search the 1885 Census for Telemark. No Sandersen shows up in Porsgrunn but several in Brevik (Brevig). None named Hermann. The only male named Sandersen and born 1874 plus/minus 2 is Adolf who also shows up in 1875.
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AngelaBoger
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Posted - 24/03/2018 : 17:53:13
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Finding Porsgrunn as his birth place was positive but the negative side is that Sander is a very uncommon name in Telemark. In the 1865 Census there is only one Sander found for Telemark and not in Porsgrun but in Brevik. However Brevik and Porsgrunn can be considered close enough to be one. He is however of an age where he could have fathered a child in 1876.
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However in the 1875 Census he is using the first name of Ingvald, Not married and no children.
Link
In 1875 Census there are a few more Sandersen names in Telemark again mostly in Brevik. Here is a family with the father having the last name Sandersen and the children also using the last name of Sandersen. No Hermann so he would have to have been born after 1875 to fit this family.
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You can also search the 1885 Census for Telemark. No Sandersen shows up in Porsgrunn but several in Brevik (Brevig). None named Hermann. The only male named Sandersen and born 1874 plus/minus 2 is Adolf who also shows up in 1875.
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In that 1875 census you shared for Ingevald Sorensen, what does this mean? " Smededreng (hos Jeremiasen i Porsgrund)" Does that mean he's visiting someone in Porsgrund?
If the 1875 census was taken very early in the year, it could be possible he had a son born right after it was taken, but it appears to say he's unmarried at that time. |
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AngelaBoger
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AntonH
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Posted - 24/03/2018 : 21:10:48
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Smededreng (hos Jeremiasen i Porsgrund
It means he is working as a blacksmith apprentice at Jeremiassen in Porsgrunn.
For the book try contacting them at this mail address
rhd-web@sv.uit.no |
Edited by - AntonH on 25/03/2018 01:27:26 |
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AngelaBoger
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Posted - 24/03/2018 : 23:33:45
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| Thank you! :) I will do that. |
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jkmarler
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Herman Sandersen South Africa
