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AntonH
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Posted - 15/03/2016 :  04:08:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably Andrew Thompson in the 1905 Minnesota Census living his brother Thomas.

Andrew Thompson
in the Minnesota, Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905
Name: Andrew Thompson
Age: 22
Census Date: 26 Jun 1905
County: Clay
Locality: Viding
Birth Location: North Dakota
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Race: White
Father's Birth Location: Norway
Mother's Birth Location: Norway
Line: 28
Roll: MNSC_113
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/03/2016 :  04:14:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the rest of the family in the 1900 US Census when Andrew was living with the Marsden family.

Thomas H Thompson
in the 1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Thomas H Thompson
[Thomas Thompson]
Age: 22
Birth Date: Mar 1878
Birthplace: North Dakota
Home in 1900: Viding, Clay, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Betsy Thompson
Marriage Year: 1900
Years Married: 0
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's name: Julia Thompson
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas H Thompson 22
Betsy Thompson 20
Julia Thompson 48
Annie Thompson 10
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/03/2016 :  05:06:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And then following the OP's post, Andrew returned to North Dakota and died there in 1907. This is the info in the link she provides on page one.

Andrew Thompson
in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Andrew Thompson
Birth Date: 12 Feb 1883
Death Date: 8 Sep 1907
Cemetery: Memorial Park Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Grand Forks, Grand Forks County, North Dakota, USA
Has Bio?: N
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/03/2016 :  05:11:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Andrew's mother or foster mother depending what is true is found in North Dakota living with her daughter Annie who had married a William Raabe.

Gyve Thompson
in the 1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Thompson
[Gyve Thompson]
Birth Year: abt 1852
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: Norway
Marital Status: Widowed
Relation to Head of House: Mother
Home in 1930: Grand Forks, Grand Forks, North Dakota
Map of Home: View Map
Street address: Demers Avenue
Ward of City: 3rd
House Number in Cities or Towns: 515 1/2
Dwelling Number: 54
Family Number: 188
Age at First Marriage: 24
Attended School: No
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Language Spoken: Norwegian
Immigration Year: 1869
Naturalization: Naturalized
Able to Speak English: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Anna Raabe 40
James Raabe 21
Gyve Thompson 78
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mastokk2
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Posted - 15/03/2016 :  09:35:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am sorry jkmarler I wrote that he was born (acc. to the churchrec) in Grand Rapids instead of Grand Forks, skues me!!

quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

Not sure you've seen this before. The coroner's reports are searchable in a database at Chester Fritz Library and online. The actual records have limited availability. You could contact the Special Collections area of the University of North Dakota Chester Fritz Library:


Date Name Location Box Folder Inquest #

30 Aug 1884 Inger Moe Northwood 1 72 Unnumbered report.
Death sometime prior to above date of inquest

31 Aug 1884 Knute A. Moe Chester Township 1 73 Unnumbered report.

Even though Knute was thought to have done the deed, there is an interesting newspaper account in which the children left at the house were reported to have had contact with a different set of adults prior to the actual discovery of their mother's body who were not their father. Knute had apparently had some difficulty with his neighbors..

Interesting to me is that my great great great grandparents, great great grandparents and great grandmother lived in Lind Township in Grand Forks county when the events occurred. Unfortunately they are all long, long gone.

Post some links to the person you think might be the son. Grand Rapids is a different place than Grand Forks county.

Here is what Wikipedia says about Grand Rapids, North Dakota:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Rapids,_North_Dakota

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mastokk2
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Posted - 15/03/2016 :  10:58:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you to all of you for your findings! :-)

jkmarler: very interesting that some of your ancestors lived in Lind twp! And you have never heard about an adopted child in your family? ;-)

I think that one of the reasons for not finding people in the Census (digitalized one), is that the writers did a very bad job!! If you look to the original Census you will find that many pg. are impossible to read. Martha Moe (the daughter in the middle) is registered as M Mal, even it is possible to read that there is written Moe in the original...

I am not sure that this Andrew are the correct one, but he is one of _all_ Andrew etc I have checked these 10 years :-P

Even there is written that this Andrew was born in ND, it might be the right one, Martha (or the one who gave info to the writer of the Census) was not sure were she was born. Acc to the Census 1900 she was born in June 1880, but arrived in 1878, born in Norway.

In Census 1910 she is married to Alonzo Calderwood, and called Mattie, there it is told that she was born in United States, parents birthplace unknown.

In Census 1920 (she died one year later) she is devorced from Alonzo, have to children, and are remarried to Louis Kaufman, and said to be born in ND, by Norwegian parents....

About the registration of the emigration from Norway, I have seen the same about these two Martha, but I think the reason would be found in the original, probably bad writing...




Edited by - mastokk2 on 15/03/2016 13:57:20
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/03/2016 :  16:07:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably the ELCA record for the death of Andrew in 1907.

Andrew Thompson
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1875-1940
Name: Andrew Thompson
Event Type: Burial
Death Date: 7 Sep 1907
Burial Date: 9 Sep 1907
Church Name: United Lutheran
Church Location: Grand Forks, North Dakota
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jkmarler
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Posted - 15/03/2016 :  19:15:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From the Grand Forks Daily Herald, Sunday 8 Sept 1907, page6

"Died this Morning
At 1:30 his sic morning a man by the name of Thompson died at the Nelson Hotel. He had been ill for some time and the cause of his death was diabetis sic. Funeral arrangements had not been completed at an early hour this morning and further particulars as to the death were unobtainable."


From the Grand Forks Daily Herald, Tuesday 10 Sept 1907, pt 1, pg 4:

" Funeral is Held--The funeral of Andrew Thompson, who died early Sunday morning was held yesterday afternoon. Rev. A.J. Hulteng of Zion Lutheran church officiating. The deceased formerly lived in Belmont and was a son of Halvor Hhompson sic."

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mastokk2
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Posted - 15/03/2016 :  21:05:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you very much!!

This was much more than I could expect!!

Someone who know if it is possible to locate more information about this man?

I guess it will be complicate,as he looks like to be unmarried/without children.

Is it possible to try to locate his older/younger siblings birthrecord, then we could see the distance between them and him, in one census his older brother looks to be quite close him in age....


Edited by - mastokk2 on 15/03/2016 21:48:18
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jkmarler
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Posted - 15/03/2016 :  21:53:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

Here is the Halvor Thompson family in 1880 census:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCV4-787

Thomas Thompson Self M 60 Norway
Carrie Thompson Wife F 65 Norway
Halver Thompson Son M 40 Norway
Julia K Thompson Daughter F 28 Norway
Tilda Thompson Daughter F 16 Norway
Emma Thompson Daughter F 11 Norway
Sarah Thompson Daughter F 9 Norway
Toms L Thompson Son M 2 Dakota Territories
Charles Thompson Son M 0 Dakota Territories
Thomas Thompson Other M 38 Norway
Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCV4-787 : Halver Thompson in household of Thomas Thompson, Township 148 Range 49, Traill, Dakota Territory, United States; citing enumeration district ED 66, sheet 261C, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 0114; FHL microfilm 1,254,114.



I believe that the Thomas and Carrie at the top of the ticket were from Hol(Aal) Hallingdal. They are found buried in North Ringsaker Cemetery in Belmont Twp SE1/2, Sec 9 of Traill county as:
Torger Thompson
20 Feb 1820 -7 Feb 1899
Kari Thompson
10 Jan 1815-13 Mar 1907

Torger #8 born 3 Mar 1820 not a perfect match:
Source information: Buskerud county, Ål, Parish register copy nr. 1 (1815-1829), Birth and baptism records 1820, page 116-117.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8547&idx_id=8547&uid=ny&idx_side=-59

Kari born 22 Jan 1815 also not a perfect match:
Source information: Buskerud county, Ål, Parish register copy nr. 1 (1815-1829), Birth and baptism records 1815, page 4-5.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8547&idx_id=8547&uid=ny&idx_side=-3


The bygdebøker for both Aal and Hol have only fragmentary information about the family. According to Holsboka Torgeir Torgeirson Sveinsgard and wife and one child left Norway in 1857. Torgeir was a member of a large family and has many siblings spread across Iowa, Minnesota and North Dakota.

There is also a Gurine Thompson buried in the cemetery above with the dates: Sept 19, 1865- Mar 9, 1945 and so seems youngish to be Julia. There is no Halvor Thompson with a marker in the cemetery.

There is in the ELCA funerals database a Halvor Thompson aged 68 dying in 1907 in Fosston Minnesota which makes his birthyear about 1839, so possible but where is he when Julia and kids are in Clay county, Minnesota in 1895, 1900?

Halvor Thompson's land in Traill county is in a township right on the Red River about 2 miles west of Climax Minnesota which may explain why family pastoral acts are recorded in a Perley Minnesota church.

Edited by - jkmarler on 16/03/2016 03:36:34
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jkmarler
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Posted - 15/03/2016 :  22:02:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Your candidate Mattie Calderwood in Saskatchewan in 1911:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVB8-RS8V

Interesting here is her marriage record transcribed, maiden name as Moe:
County: Ward
Groom: Calderwood, Alonzo R. Bride: Moe, Martha
Date License Issued: 7/4/1902 Certificate Number:

Here is putative Mattie's putative daughter Georgia in the 1930 census:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4H6-899

Georgia again in 1920 census:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MFQZ-XJ7

Very probable candidate for Georgia although birthplace recorded as Ohio in 1940. The daughter Patricia when marrying in 1952 states he mother's maiden name as "Calterwood":
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KW8L-K8K

Here in SSDI her birthdate given as 11 Aug 1911:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V9SP-SM6

Obit of one of Georgia Stookey's children:
News Death Notice

STOOKEY, Wallace Dean Dino age 75, of Beavercreek, passed away Friday, November 20, 2009 to be with the Lord. He was at home with his family at his side after a lengthy illness. He was preceded in death by his father and mother, Wallace and Georgia Stookey; brothers, Rolla, Alvin, Richard and Arthur Stookey; sister, Patricia Crawford. He is survived by his loving wife of 55 years, Janet; sons, Robert (Gail) Stookey of Georgia, Jay (Lee Anne) Stookey of Xenia, Timothy (Cyndi) Stookey of Xenia; daughters, Deanna (Russ) Cline of Washington State, Kandace Stookey of Xenia, and Janice Stookey of Beavercreek; 13 grandchildren and 18 great-grandchildren; brother, Allen "Kent" (Barbara) Stookey of West Milton; sister, Cristine Hunter of New Jasper Township; and numerous nieces and nephews. He worked at the Dayton Newspaper for 44 years, was a 32 Degree Mason and Scottish Rite, and a member of Harmony Baptist Church. Visitation will be held Sunday, November 22, 2009 from 2-4 pm at Newcomer Funeral Home Beavercreek with funeral services beginning at 4:00 pm with Pastor Perry Bilyeu officiating. If desired, donations may be made Shriners Hospital for Children (3229 Burnet Ave., Cincinnati, OH 45229-3095). To send a special online message to the family, please visit www.NewcomerDayton.com

Published in Dayton Daily News from Nov. 21 to Nov. 22, 2009 - See more at: www.legacy.com/obituaries/dayton/obituary.aspx?n=wallace-dean-stookey-dino&pid=136203454#sthash.rWxwqESo.dpuf" target="_blank">http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dayton/obituary.aspx?n=wallace-dean-stookey-dino&pid=136203454#sthash.rWxwqESo.dpuf

Database at rootsweb which has an older database containing Alonzo Calderwood:
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=stogdill35&id=I6533

Edited by - jkmarler on 16/03/2016 18:54:45
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mastokk2
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Posted - 15/03/2016 :  22:30:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It looks like that the children have been born very close to each other in this family, because this looks to be Ole:

Ole Thompson
Birth Date: 16 Jan 1881
Birth Place: North Dakota, USA
Death Date: 2 Sep 1903
Death Place: Perley, Norman County, Minnesota, USA
Cemetery: Bethania Lutheran Church Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Perley, Norman County, Minnesota, USA

So I guess this Andrew too, is a wrong one....

Edited by - mastokk2 on 15/03/2016 22:32:07
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mastokk2
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Posted - 15/03/2016 :  22:33:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is correct, it is Martha/Mattie
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

Your candidate Mattie Calderwood in Saskatchewan in 1911:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVB8-RS8V

Interesting here is her marriage record transcribed, maiden name as Moe:
County: Ward
Groom: Calderwood, Alonzo R. Bride: Moe, Martha
Date License Issued: 7/4/1902 Certificate Number:

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AntonH
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Posted - 15/03/2016 :  22:50:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is likely the confirmation of the son Ole (called Ola in the 1885 North Dakota Census). His birth place is listed as Trail County, North Dakota.

Ole Thompson
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1875-1940
Name: Ole Thompson
Event Type: Confirmation
Birth Date: 16 Jan 1881
Confirmation Date: 16 Aug 1896
Father: Halvor Thompson
Mother: Gyve Thompson
Church Name: Seminary
Church Location: St Paul, Minnesota
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mastokk2
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Posted - 15/03/2016 :  22:53:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A interesting detail: Ole was born in Traill, ND in January 1881, Andrew is written (in the confirmationrecord) to be born in Grand Forks co, ND!

Can this be a detail which tells us something very important? Or were their next child too born in GF, ND?
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