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AntonH
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 Posted - 04/04/2016 : 23:09:29
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Confirmation record on the second daughter born in South Dakota. Knutson pops up again.
Clara Knutson Bye
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1875-1940
Name: Clara Knutson Bye
Event Type: Confirmation
Birth Date: 20 Oct 1886
Confirmation Date: 8 Sep 1901
Father: Conrad K Bye
Mother: Randi Christopher
Church Name: Canton Lutheran Church
Church Location: Canton, South Dakota
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jwiborg
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Posted - 05/04/2016 : 00:22:22
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Here is the correct Anna Randine:
#148 Anne Randine
Born: 21 Jul 1852, chr 29 Aug 1852, Asker, Akershus.
Parents: Blacksmith Christopher Andreassen & Lovise Arnesdatter, Tokerud v. B.
By 1865, the family has relocated to Hole, Buskerud
Geni webpage
The proof that this is the correct Anna Randine comes with the birth of her illegitimate child
Louise Christine
Born 02 Jul 1881, chr 25 Dec 1881, Hole, Buskerud
Parents: Servant Anne Randine Kristoffersdatter b. 1852 & Bachelor, blacksmith apprentice Emil Edvardsen Svorstad b.1853 Norsted b. 1858.
Her parents residence: Bjørnstad, Hole, Buskerud
His parents residence: Kristiania
Blacksmithdaughter Anna Randine Kristoffersdr & illegitimate child, daughter Louise Kristine emigrated in April 1884, #8-9, right page
Emigration from Oslo on 18.04.1884. Destination Canton. Prepaid tickets. |
Edited by - jwiborg on 07/04/2016 00:39:11 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/04/2016 : 01:34:09
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Very very impressive Jan Peter, some of your best work.
Here is the arrival of Anne R. into the US.
Ann R Christofferson
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Ann R Christofferson
Arrival Date: 2 May 1884
Birth Date: abt 1854
Age: 30
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Swedish
Place of Origin: Sweden
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: City of Richmond |
Edited by - AntonH on 05/04/2016 01:39:40 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/04/2016 : 01:51:10
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Confirmation record on the second daughter born in South Dakota. Knutson pops up again.
Clara Knutson Bye
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1875-1940
Name: Clara Knutson Bye
Event Type: Confirmation
Birth Date: 20 Oct 1886
Confirmation Date: 8 Sep 1901
Father: Conrad K Bye
Mother: Randi Christopher
Church Name: Canton Lutheran Church
Church Location: Canton, South Dakota
Quite interesting the same database of information but not findable in archives.com's version. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/04/2016 : 03:09:51
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I think that Jan Peter has nailed Randine for me. The fact that she and daughter left for America without a man, probably means she married Conrad in Canton and that she likely knew somebody in South Dakota. So now I guess we work on Conrad.
Here is a person who pops up, living in Minnesota close to Mpls. Gunner K Bye. Here is that K again. Also he named one of his sons Conrad.
Name: Gunder K . Bye
Birth Date: Jul 1851
Birth Place: Norway
Death Date: 10 Jul 1925
Death Place: Dakota County, Minnesota, USA
Cemetery: Ravenna Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Dakota County, Minnesota, USA
Has Bio?: N
Spouse: Caroline Amelia Bye
Children: John Arthur Bye
Conrad Christian Bye
Adolph Bye
URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-..
FAG Website
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=75851178&ref=acom
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Edited by - AntonH on 05/04/2016 03:59:04 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 05/04/2016 : 05:17:19
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Originally posted by lyndal40
I think that Jan Peter has nailed Randine for me. The fact that she and daughter left for America without a man, probably means she married Conrad in Canton and that she likely knew somebody in South Dakota. So now I guess we work on Conrad.
Here is a person who pops up, living in Minnesota close to Mpls. Gunner K Bye. Here is that K again. Also he named one of his sons Conrad.
Name: Gunder K . Bye
Birth Date: Jul 1851
Birth Place: Norway
Death Date: 10 Jul 1925
Death Place: Dakota County, Minnesota, USA
Cemetery: Ravenna Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Dakota County, Minnesota, USA
Has Bio?: N
Spouse: Caroline Amelia Bye
Children: John Arthur Bye
Conrad Christian Bye
Adolph Bye
URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-..
FAG Website
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=75851178&ref=acom
The Conrad Christian Bye who was this man's son was much younger than your target
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=75851386 |
Edited by - jkmarler on 05/04/2016 05:20:42 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/04/2016 : 05:39:32
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jkmarler
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Posted - 05/04/2016 : 15:37:52
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Well, okay. It's your topic. Here is a link to the transcribed version of Gunder Bye's death, parents are named Christ Olson and Mary Christianson:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FDQ7-3C6
Here is Gunder & family in 1900 US census, says he came to US in 1881:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9SQ-8PB
Here is a link to the transcribed death record of Carolina (Lena) Amelia Swenson (or Olson) wife of Gunder. Her father is Ole Swenson. Her year of migration from various censuses 1881 or 1888:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FDDX-N72
Not sure if this marriage in the ELCA database is their's or not since there are a number of ripples:
Gunder Christensen Bye & Amalia Johanneson (no parents are named, nor ages given) in St. Paul Minnesota, no church named
11 Nov 1881 |
Edited by - jkmarler on 05/04/2016 16:22:58 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 05/04/2016 : 17:08:56
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Here is an interesting development also from Chronicling America in the Dakota Farmers' Leader published at Canton S.D. on 10 Nov 1898, pg 8, col 2:
"C.K. Bye informs the LEADER that in the future his name will be written as above and not Conrad Knutson as he is familiarly known. Mr. Bye is prepared to do all kinds of papering and decorating."
from the same newspaper, publish 24 Sept 1897:
"Conrad Knutson is reported to have fallen heir to $7,240. We hope this report is correct."
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/04/2016 : 17:56:00
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Interesting, I hope he made good use of the money.
Also giving this some thought. With the informatin that Jan Peter provided, I am also now very interested in the real father of Lovise Christina, Emil Edvardsen Svorstad(?) b.1852. since he is the biological father and thus his ancestry is now the family tree.
Jan Peter is his birth year 1858 or 1852?
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jkmarler
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Posted - 05/04/2016 : 18:06:14
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Well, I'd be more interested in who died and left the money to him.
Here is a Konrad Knudsen heading to Canton who is also a painter:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/gen/vis/8/pe00000000450954
When Conrad left Holt he was listed as enkemand. Here is his marriage #3
Source information: Aust-Agder county, Holt, Parish register (official) nr. A 10 (1872-1885), Marriage records 1879, page 281.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6152&idx_id=6152&uid=ny&idx_side=-276
His wife, Sofie's death #52:
Source information: Aust-Agder county, Holt, Parish register (official) nr. A 10 (1872-1885), Death and burial records 1882, page 372.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6152&idx_id=6152&uid=ny&idx_side=-352
Here is a Conrad Knudsen #7 parents Knut Knutson and Torborg:
Kildeinformasjon: Aust-Agder fylke, Holt, Klokkerbok nr. B 7 (1849-1858), Fødte og døpte 1858, side 91.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9534&idx_id=9534&uid=ny&idx_side=-94
Another possible Konrad Kristianson b. 1857 Enebak father is a painter. This fellow also leaves in 1884 from Holt:
Kildeinformasjon: Aust-Agder fylke, Holt, Ministerialbok nr. A 10 (1872-1885), Konfirmerte 1874, side 174.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6152&idx_id=6152&uid=ny&idx_side=-178
#27
Kildeinformasjon: Aust-Agder fylke, Holt, Ministerialbok nr. A 10 (1872-1885), Inn- og utflyttede 1885, side 411.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6152&idx_id=6152&uid=ny&idx_side=-390
1875 census Konrad b 1856 Enebak:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01052188000094
The only Conrad born in Enebak in 1857, father Christen Conrad Christianson Storbye #84 :
Kildeinformasjon: Akershus fylke, Enebakk, Ministerialbok nr. I 9 (1832-1861), Fødte og døpte 1857, side 241.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=503&idx_id=503&uid=ny&idx_side=-245 |
Edited by - jkmarler on 07/04/2016 15:22:58 |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 05/04/2016 : 19:05:07
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quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler
Well, I'd be more interested in who died and left the money to him.
Here is a Konrad Knudsen heading to Canton who is also a painter:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/gen/vis/8/pe00000000450954
Here is a Conrad Knudsen #7 parents Knut Knutson and Torborg:
Kildeinformasjon: Aust-Agder fylke, Holt, Klokkerbok nr. B 7 (1849-1858), Fødte og døpte 1858, side 91.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9534&idx_id=9534&uid=ny&idx_side=-94
Another possible Konrad Kristianson b. 1857 Enebak father is a painter. This fellow also leaves in 1884 from Holt:
Kildeinformasjon: Aust-Agder fylke, Holt, Ministerialbok nr. A 10 (1872-1885), Konfirmerte 1874, side 174.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6152&idx_id=6152&uid=ny&idx_side=-178
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Kildeinformasjon: Aust-Agder fylke, Holt, Ministerialbok nr. A 10 (1872-1885), Inn- og utflyttede 1885, side 411.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6152&idx_id=6152&uid=ny&idx_side=-390
Good work!
My gut feeling is is that this is the correct one:
Here is a Konrad Knudsen heading to Canton who is also a painter:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/gen/vis/8/pe00000000450954
Another possible Konrad Kristianson b. 1857 Enebak father is a painter. This fellow also leaves in 1884 from Holt:
Aust-Agder fylke, Holt, Ministerialbok nr. A 10 (1872-1885), Konfirmerte 1874, side 174.
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6152&idx_id=6152&uid=ny&idx_side=-178
Census-1900 says he is born in May, and this old topic wich could be about the same person says May 16 as a possible date.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 05/04/2016 : 19:31:36
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Originally posted by jwiborg
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Good work!
My gut feeling is is that this is the correct one:
Here is a Konrad Knudsen heading to Canton who is also a painter:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/gen/vis/8/pe00000000450954
Census-1900 says he is born in May, and this old topic wich could be about the same person says May 16 as a possible date.
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Well, there are a lot of things to like about him: use of both Knudsen and Christianson, painting connection, birthdate is 16 May 1857, leaving Norway in 1884 and a connection to a Bye farm (Storbye in Enebak.) |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 05/04/2016 : 19:38:26
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Jan Peter is his birth year 1858 or 1852?
Sorry, I had the birthyear mixed for them. I think it reads 1853 for Emil?
His father should be named "Edvard", and I think his mother must be "Christine".
A wild shot
Not likely. In 1865 he is named Emil Christian Franklin Bøhm (13), and a myheritage website says he married Fredrikke Mathea Svendsen, that he had a son Johannes born 1881, and that he died in 1883. |
Edited by - jwiborg on 05/04/2016 20:44:16 |
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AntonH
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