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Nancy Sondy
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USA
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Posted - 28/06/2016 :  16:31:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am new to this forum, and new to research on my Norwegian ancestors. I am looking for Josef Hansen, born 11 Apr 1890 in Christiana and his future wife, Marie Christensen born on an unknown date in 1888. According to the family he is from Christiana, but on his draft record he indicated he was from Oslo. On their marriage certificate in Illinois it states that Josef's parents are Charles Hansen and Mashel Andersen - I believe the "Mashel" is a phonetic spelling of "Michelle" so it could be her name was Mikaela. Marie Christensen's parents are noted as Otto Christensen and Karen Petersen. Can anyone give me some guidance in how to go about searching for these two people? In reading about the naming conventions in Norway, I'm not even sure where to start. Thank you for any help you can give me, I do appreciate it!
Nancy

AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 28/06/2016 :  21:46:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe a minor item but his WWII Draft Reg states April 14, 1890 for a birth date.

Joseph Hansen
in the U.S., World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
Name: Joseph Hansen
Age: 52
Race: White
Birth Date: 14 Apr 1890
Birth Place: Oslo, Norway
Residence Year: 1942
Residence: Chicago, Illinois, USA

While the SS Death Record does list 11 Apr 1890

Joseph Hansen
in the U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014
Name: Joseph Hansen
SSN: 337-10-9061
Last Residence:
60007 Elk Grove Village, Cook, Illinois, USA
BORN: 11 Apr 1890
Died: Feb 1970
State (Year) SSN issued: Illinois (Before 1951)


Edited by - AntonH on 28/06/2016 21:51:43
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Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 28/06/2016 :  22:08:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nancy - Christiania (Kristiania) is Oslo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oslo

Joseph came to the US when?

What did he do for a living/occupation?
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 28/06/2016 :  22:41:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a Joseph Hansen same birth date as WWII Reg married two children, occupation Mechanic living in Rockford Illinois

Joseph Hanson
in the U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Joseph Hanson
City: Rockford
County: Winnebago
State: Illinois
Birthplace: Norway
Birth Date: 14 Apr 1890
Race: Caucasian (White)
Draft Board: 2
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 28/06/2016 :  22:50:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This looks like the family in the 1930 Census.

Joseph Hansen
in the 1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Joseph Hansen
Birth Year: abt 1890
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Norway
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1930: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Map of Home: View Map
Street address: N. Rockwell
Ward of City: 38
Block: 186
House Number in Cities or Towns: 2956
Dwelling Number: 1
Family Number: 238
Home Owned or Rented: Rented
Home Value: 28.00
Radio Set: Yes
Lives on Farm: No
Age at First Marriage: 19
Attended School: No
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Language Spoken: Norwegian
Immigration Year: 1905
Naturalization: Naturalized
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Mechanic
Industry: Water Meters
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker
Employment: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Hansen 40
Marie Hansen 42
Carl O Hansen 19
Lillian C Hansen 14
Henry J Hansen 12
David Kramer 24
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 28/06/2016 :  23:01:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It looks like wife Marie and two children Carl and Lillian returned from Norway in 1920. The address given for their residence is 2330 16th Avenue Rockford Illinois. Passport number is 98793 issued in 1919. No info on who she visited in Norway. Left Aug 7, 1920

Marie Hansen
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Marie Hansen
Arrival Date: 16 Aug 1920
Birth Date: abt 1888
Age: 32
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Kristiania, Norway
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Bergensfjord


Edited by - AntonH on 28/06/2016 23:59:05
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 29/06/2016 :  00:06:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They married in Winnebago, Ill Feb. 18. 1911.
Estimated birth. for Marie 1890.age 21.

Kåre
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jkmarler
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Posted - 29/06/2016 :  00:15:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From Morning Star (Rockford, Illinois), Sunday 15 April 1917 pg 7 col 3:

"Harold Hanson
Harold Hanson, three year old son of Mr. and Mrs. Joseph Hanson of 2220 Fifteenth Ave., died last night at 9:30 o'clock at his home after a brief illness of pneumonia. There are two other children. Funeral arrangements were not completed last night."

A card of thanks published later names the two siblings as Carl and Lillian.
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vivi
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Norway
371 Posts

Posted - 29/06/2016 :  01:48:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

A possible Marie born sept. 6, 1887 and baptized nov. 27 1887 in Frogner parish, Lier, Buskerud.
Her parents were Otto Kristiansen and Karen Olea Pedersen.

No 60 bottom half:
SAKO, Lier kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0015: Ministerialbok nr. I 15, 1883-1894, s. 73
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060531030378

Vivi
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vivi
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Norway
371 Posts

Posted - 29/06/2016 :  02:23:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

Marie in the 1900 census:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01037121000649

Marie emigrates 1907 to Rochford
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/gen/vis/8/pe00000000582701

Vivi
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 29/06/2016 :  02:29:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Vivi, we seem to be a bit bogged down trying to find a Norwegian connection. Here is likely the family that you found in the 1900 Norwegian Census.

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01037121000649

Whoops guess you posted whiile I was looking. Anyway this is likely her arrival.

Marie Kristiansen
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Marie Kristiansen
Arrival Date: 14 May 1907
Birth Date: abt 1887
Birth Location Other: lier
Age: 19 Years 8 Months
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Christiania
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Hellig Olav

She is listed as going to her brother-in-law, Harald Hansen at 1229 15th Street Rockford Ill.

A good match to what you have posted directly below.

Edited by - AntonH on 29/06/2016 02:44:35
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vivi
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Norway
371 Posts

Posted - 29/06/2016 :  02:36:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

Marie was on a visit in Norway in 1920 because her mother Karen Olea died June 2, 1920.
Marie is mentioned among the children and also her husband's name is mentioned: Josef Hansen.
And as Lyndal posted above: Marie's sister Julie was married to Harald Hansen and lived in USA.

No 77:
Permanent sidelenke: http://arkivverket.no/URN:sk_read/55506/127/
Permanent bildelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-sk10101211014129.jpg

Vivi

Edited by - vivi on 29/06/2016 02:43:34
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 29/06/2016 :  02:51:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So Harold Hansen probably married Julia sister to Marie and then Marie married Joseph brother to Harald. So now where do Joseph and Harold come from .

This is likely Julie and Harold in 1910 US Census. Along with Marie age 21, living with them before she marries Joseph.

Harold Hansen
in the 1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Harold Hansen
Age in 1910: 28
Birth Year: abt 1882
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1910: Rockford Ward 2, Winnebago, Illinois
Street: 13th Aveneue
House Number: 2026
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1905
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Julia Hansen
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Native Tongue: Norwegian
Occupation: Cabinet Maker
Industry: Furniture
Employer, Employee or Other: Wage Earner
Home Owned or Rented: Rent
Farm or House: House
Naturalization Status: Papers
Attended School: Yes
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Years Married: 4
Out of Work: N
Number of weeks out of work: 0
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Harold Hansen 28
Julia Hansen 31
Marinius Hansen 4
Violet Hansen 2
Svanhild Hansen 0
[7/12]
Maria Christianson 21

Edited by - AntonH on 29/06/2016 02:52:25
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vivi
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Norway
371 Posts

Posted - 29/06/2016 :  02:51:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

Marie's father died sept. 29, 1902. no 27:
SAKO, Lier kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0017: Ministerialbok nr. I 17, 1901-1908, s. 231
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060531040384

Both her parents were burried from Frogner church - the same church as Marie was baptized in.

Here is how this church looked like in 2014:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIzdc0zcNOo

Vivi

Edited by - vivi on 29/06/2016 02:55:14
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Nancy Sondy
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Posted - 29/06/2016 :  02:54:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
WOW, you folks are incredible! Thank you so much, I have so much information to go through!

Nancy :)
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 29/06/2016 :  02:58:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is a candidate for Joseph in the 1910 US Census living with his mother and the rest of the family. The family came over in 1905 same year as Harald.

Joseph Hanson
in the 1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Joseph Hanson
Age in 1910: 18
Birth Year: abt 1892
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1910: Rockford Ward 2, Winnebago, Illinois
Street: 15th Street
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's name: Mattie Hanson
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Native Tongue: English
Occupation: Laborer
Industry: Lock Factory
Employer, Employee or Other: Wage Earner
Attended School: No
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Out of Work: N
Number of weeks out of work: 0
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Mattie Hanson 46
Joseph Hanson 18
William Hanson 16
Thora Hanson 14
Emil Hanson 12
Ragna Hanson 11
Harriet Hanson 9
Alexander Hanson 7
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