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earlybirdsarah
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Posted - 17/02/2017 :  19:02:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello, My relative Samuel Johnson born 1856 (+-2 years) has put on his census information (1881,1891,1901,1911) that he is from Norway. In the 1891 census he actually puts down a place name, or so I think it is. I am sure for that census they were still filled in by the census officer so not sure if the officer has written the name correctly.
Samuel's daughter's surname was actually recorded as Johansen. She was born in Broadstairs. He lived in Broadstairs as a Brewer's Drayman. Just incase this is helpful to anyone.
The place name looks like 'fuiustae' (including the lowercase f. I am most likely completely wrong but can't see how to attach a copy of the image for anyone to see for themselves. Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,
Sarah

Edited by - earlybirdsarah on 17/02/2017 19:04:00

Hopkins
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USA
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Posted - 17/02/2017 :  20:50:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you go to a website which offers you a search of the 1865 Norwegian census and conduct a search you can probably narrow down the possibilities.

Try http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/folketellinger_avansert_e.aspx

In the first box choose to search for First Name (pull down option) and enter in the box Sam%
In the second box choose to search for Surname and enter in the box Jo%n%

The % is the search wildcard and will allow spelling variations to be included in the results.

Below that leave only Male selected and for birth year enter first 1854 and second 1858.

Now click on the button to choose the 1865 census.

Then click on the SEARCH button. The website will give you a list of the possible matches to the search functions chosen.

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lyndal40
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USA
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Posted - 17/02/2017 :  21:31:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is how the data are transcribed on Ancestry.com. The word could also be spelled Friusutac or Fusustac or the first letter could also be a L. Also Ada has the middle name of Ingeborg.

Samuel Johnson
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Samuel Johnson
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Johnson
Gender: Male
Where born: Fuiustac, Norway
Civil Parish: St Peter
Ecclesiastical parish: Broadstairs
Town: Broadstairs
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Thanet
Sub registration district: Ramsgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 733
Folio: 78
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Johnson 35
Mary Ann Johnson 32
Ada Kyeborg Johnson 11
Charles Jethro Johnson 9
Ellen Louise Johnson 5
Edith Annie Johnson 4
Lily Margrete Johnson 3
Christina Florence Johnson 1
Clara Frances Johnson 3/12

Edited by - lyndal40 on 17/02/2017 21:37:21
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lyndal40
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USA
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Posted - 17/02/2017 :  21:48:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A family tree on Ancestry has this info

Samuel Johnson
1854–

BIRTH 1854 • Fuiustac, Norway
DEATH Unknown

And this record

Samuel Johnson
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Samuel Johnson
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Birth Date: 1854
Marriage Date: 14 Sep 1878
Marriage Place: St. Peter, Kent, England
Father: John Andreason Johnson
Spouse: Mary Ann Miller
FHL Film Number: 1836279
Reference ID: 190
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vivi
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Norway
296 Posts

Posted - 17/02/2017 :  23:41:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

Fuiustac - might it be Grimstad?

There is a Samuel with father Johan Andreas Olsen born 3. jan 1856 in Grimstad.
No 13:
SAK, Fjære sokneprestkontor, F/Fb/L0008: Klokkerbok nr. B 8, 1854-1867, s. 40
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070525340604

In the 1865 census
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01038155000189


Vivi
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vivi
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Norway
296 Posts

Posted - 17/02/2017 :  23:48:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

In the 1875 census Samuel is a sailor and not with his family.
He is said to be in Ramsfok ? England

https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01052190000607

Vivi
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lyndal40
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USA
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Posted - 17/02/2017 :  23:56:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very nice Vivi, It could be Grimstad but it is so poorly written that it could be a lot of things.

I think the reference to Ramsfok ? England is probably Ramsgate. Note on the 1891 English census above this reference.

Sub registration district: Ramsgate

Also his daughter Ingeborg was born in Ramsgate.

Ada Ingeborg Johnson
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Ada Ingeborg Johnson
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 2 May 1880
Baptism Place: Ramsgate, Kent, England
Father: Samuel Johnson
Mother: Mary Ann
FHL Film Number: 1836033

Edited by - lyndal40 on 18/02/2017 00:14:01
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jkmarler
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Posted - 18/02/2017 :  01:16:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Confirmation #25:
SAK, Grimstad sokneprestkontor, F/Fa/L0002: Ministerialbok nr. A 1, 1869-1881, s. 127
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060201010575
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JaneC
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USA
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Posted - 18/02/2017 :  01:56:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1885 census, two of Samuel's brothers are seamen; Johan A Olsen's offspring vary between Johansen and Andreasen:
link

Birth of Anders 15 April 1862
link

1900
Anders and family
Census says Anders is in America
link


1910
The family uses the name Morholt
Anders is noted as being in New York
link

Descendants of Anders talk about the family living on Staten Island, New York
link

1941 death of Anders
link


Ole was using the last name Andreasen in 1885. Here's Ole as Ole A Morholt
Two sons are seamen - one is in Sweden, one is at sea traveling from England to Pernambuco
link

Birth of Ole 22 January 1865
link

Tracking the probable siblings of your Samuel can lead to contact with descendants, which may help to confirm the connection.

Edited by - JaneC on 18/02/2017 04:33:04
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eibache
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Norway
6335 Posts

Posted - 18/02/2017 :  14:16:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Baptism for the children of Johan Andreas Olsen and Margrethe Mathiasdatter and Samuels siblings were:
Ingeborg, born Nov 6 1857 #29
Mathias, born Jan 21 1860 #64
Anders, born Apr 15 1862 #44
Ole, born Jan 22 1865 #32
Susanne, born Sept 3 1867 #150
Johan Martin, born Febr 7 1870 #16
Gunder, born Dec 21 1872 #8
Ida Marie, born March 24 1874 #12
Mathias, born Aug 4 1877 #39

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 18/02/2017 14:28:04
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 18/02/2017 :  16:34:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Johan Andreas Olsen was the son of Ole Henricsen, Morholt (b. 1786) and Ingebor Kirstine Jørgensdatter, Grømstad (b. 1784).
They were married July 30 1814, last record on right page.

Margrethe Mathiasdatter was the daughter of Matias Andersen, Reppesvig (b. 1796) and Ingeborg Knudsdatter, Haave (1806) . She was born Dec 4 1833, #2.
The parents were married Oct 10 1826, #3.


Einar

Edited by - eibache on 19/02/2017 09:38:23
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JaneC
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USA
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Posted - 18/02/2017 :  16:38:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here comes Olivia (wife of Anders Johansen Morholt), with children, to the USA in 1913: link

Edited by - JaneC on 18/02/2017 16:40:14
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lyndal40
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USA
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Posted - 18/02/2017 :  17:30:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Einar, your last two records for the marriages of the parents did not work for me.

You meant for the 1814 Record

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070702650278

And for the 1826 Record

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070606320124

Matias Andersen Repsvig and his family in the 1801 Census

https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01058327001696

Birth record for Margrethe Mathiasdatter worked fine

Also I wonder if Ole Hendrichsen Morholdt was not born in 1786 and not 1761. Here is the 1801 Census

https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01058327000987

Edited by - lyndal40 on 18/02/2017 23:12:27
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lyndal40
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USA
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Posted - 18/02/2017 :  23:32:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Baptism of Johan Andreas Olsen

Johan Andreas Olsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Johan Andreas Olsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 25 apr 1818
Birth Place: Fjaere, Aust-Agder, Norway
Father: Ole Henricksen
Mother: Ingebor Jorgensdatter
FHL Film Number: 123529
Reference ID: item p 59

See number 11

https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070525360061

Looks like he had a twin brother number 10 on the previous page

Edited by - lyndal40 on 18/02/2017 23:53:04
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earlybirdsarah
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Posted - 18/02/2017 :  23:55:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you all, you have been so helpful. I agree I believe it to be Grimstad. You have all given me a lot to think about!
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eibache
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Norway
6335 Posts

Posted - 19/02/2017 :  11:39:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Siblings of Margrethe Matiasdatter were:
Anders Christian, born Nov 5 1826 #6
Carljnius, bor April 29 1830 #6
Karen Marie, born Sept 6 1836 #14
Mathis, born Aug 3 1840 #5
Engelbreth, born July 22 1843 #4
Id Marie, born March 15 1846 #2
Johanne Marie, born Aug 9 1849 #6

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 19/02/2017 11:53:50
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