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KnutTor
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 Posted - 28/02/2017 : 08:37:50
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| My grand-grand farther from Hemsedal, Norway emigrated in 1884 on the ship Angelo to Hull. The emigration records from Oslo shows that the destination was Brandom. I can not find this location. Can it be the same as Brandon, Minnesota, or is it an other explanation? |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 28/02/2017 : 12:20:20
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| There were cities/towns named Brandon in a number of different US states, including: Minnesota, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Missouri, Virginia, South Carolina, Texas, and more. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 28/02/2017 : 15:30:30
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Knut,
Who was your ancestor? There were a fair number of Hemsedøler who came to Brandon, Minnesota area. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Erik Carsten
Advanced member
USA
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Posted - 28/02/2017 : 22:10:12
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This was from findagrave.com for Anna Peterson Knutson buried at Kindkead Cemetery in Alexandria, Minnesota.
Mrs. Knutson, whose maiden name was Anna Peterson, was born in Norway, May 11, 1863, and at the time of her death she was 60 years, 5 months and 4 days of age. While still in her native land, she was united in marriage to Ole Knutson, Sept. 21, 1884.In October of that same year, they immigrated to the United States and came directly to Douglas County, settling in Evansville. Here they remained until 1903, when they came to Alexandria, and this has ever since been their home.
it says she came together with Ole Knutson but in the emmigration record referenced I did not see her name? Also note that Evansville is the town right next to Brandon. They are only a few miles apart. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 28/02/2017 : 22:32:43
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Here's the marriage of Ole Knudsen Aasen and Anne Olsdatter #19 on 20 Sept 1884:
SAKO, Gol kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0004: Parish register (official) no. I 4, 1876-1886, p. 228
Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20061101320521
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 28/02/2017 : 22:43:45
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This looks like the couple in 1900 Census. Shows Ole arriving in 1884 but the marriage year is given as 1885? Also this Ole Knutson has a birth year of 1865 not 1856.
Ole Knutson
in the 1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Ole Knutson
[Oleg Knutson]
Age: 34
Birth Date: Jun 1865
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Brandon, Douglas, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1884
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Anna Knutson
Marriage Year: 1885
Years Married: 15
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ole Knutson 34
Anna Knutson 37
Carrie Knutson 15
Ida Knutson 10
Carl Knutson 6
Oscar Knutson 2
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 28/02/2017 : 23:06:50
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Arrival of the Ole Knutsen found by Jan Peter leaving in Sept 1884. I do not see a Anne with him
Ole Knutson
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Ole Knutson
Arrival Date: 17 Oct 1884
Birth Date: abt 1856
Age: 28
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Celtic |
Edited by - AntonH on 01/03/2017 00:02:27 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 28/02/2017 : 23:48:00
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One can find a birth year for what appears to be the same Ole Knudson in Douglas County either as 1865 or as 1856.
1857 in the 1885 Minnesota State Census and 1865 in the 1900 US Census.
1856 in the 1905 Minnesota State Census.
1900 was posted above.
Ole Knutson
in the Minnesota, Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905
Name: Ole Knutson
Age: 28
Census Date: 18 May 1885
County: Douglas
Locality: Moe
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Male
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Race: White
LINE: 9
Roll: MNSC_24
Here with wife Anna and child 2/12 named Caroline?
Ole Knutson
in the Minnesota, Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905
Name: Ole Knutson
Age: 49
Census Date: 26 Jun 1905
County: Douglas
Locality: Alexandria
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Male
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Race: White
Father's Birth Location: Norway
Mother's Birth Location: Norway
LINE: 5
Roll: MNSC_116
Here with wife Anna and four children, first born not here. Ida Carl Oscar and Amund |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 01/03/2017 : 01:38:03
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Jackie a couple of questions for you.
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The Ole Einar linked to who left in 1884 was listed as married (g).
You have totally lost me here, where is the link from Einar and where does it say he was married?
Also do you think the Ole and Anna from 1900 are the same as the Ole and Anne and Caroline from 1885 and 1905 Minnesota census
In the 1900 US Census his birth year is 1865 and in the 1905 Minnesota Census his birth year is 1856, children seem to be basically the same.
The 1885 Minnesota census shows age at least birth date for ole at 28 and Anna at 22.
The original for the 1900 shows birth year of 1865 and age at last birth date as 34 and Anna as 1863 and 37.
The 1905 Minnesota census has Ole at 49 and Anna at 42. |
Edited by - AntonH on 01/03/2017 02:10:06 |
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jkmarler
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AntonH
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KnutTor
Starting member
Norway
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Posted - 02/03/2017 : 15:32:44
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| Thank you all for very interesting information. I am new to this forum and is supriced of the response. I can confirm that my grand-grand farther was Ole Knudsen. He was born i Hemsedal Jun 13 1856 and grew up at the small farm Aasen. He became the father of my grand farther Knut O. Torsethaugen in 1881. He was not married to my grand-grand mother Ollaug Syversen. As you have found out he married Anna Olsdatter (Petterson) in september 1884 and left for USA. That is the last we know of Ole. It was not popular those days to have children outside marriage, so may grand farther and parents did not tell us anything. According to the passager list, Ole and Anne left on the same boat, but with different destination (Brandom and New York)(!?). I willl study the information you found so far closely, and is interested in more information about Ole Knutson, his occupation, date of death etc. I highly appreciate your support and is excited to got new insite in our family secrets. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 02/03/2017 : 21:47:18
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Very helpful additions. Then surely it was your great-grandfather Ole Knudsen who went to Douglas county, Minnesota, as shown earlier.
Birth of Ole Knutsen, Torsethaugen ("Thorset" in USA)
13 June 1856
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1884, Anna and Ole on the same ship, as reported:
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1885 Minnesota State Census, posted earlier
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Knut Olsen in 1900 in Hemsedal
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01037114000565
1900 US Census, posted above
BRANDON, Douglas, Minnesota
Ole Knutson 34 born June 1865 Norway, to USA 1884, married 15 years
Anna Knutson 37 b May 1863 Norway, 5 children, 4 are living
Carrie Knutson 15 b March 1885 Minnesota
Ida Knutson 10 b October 1889 Minnesota
Carl Knutson 6 b July 1893 Minnesota
Oscar Knutson 2 b July 1897 Minnesota
04 March 1905
First Lutheran Church, Alexandria (city), Douglas county, Minnesota
Caroline Knutson (parents Ole Knutson Thorseth and Anna Thorseth)
married
Henry N. O? Nelson
U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records
In 1905 Minnesota State Census, Ammund Knutson appears to be an adult, not another child?
1910 US Census
Alexandria Ward 3, Douglas, Minnesota, USA
Ole K Thorset 54 b abt 1856 Norway, to USA 1884, laborer/ odd jobs, naturalized US citizen
Anna Thorset 47 b abt 1863 Norway, to USA 1884, 4 children born, 3 children are living
Carl Thorset 17 born about 1893 in Minnesota, clerk in grocery store
Oscar Thorset 12 born about 1898 in Minnesota
1920 US census
Alexandria, Douglas, Minnesota, USA
Address: K Street
Ole K Thorset 63 born about 1857 Norway, to USA 1884, laborer/ odd jobs
Anna Thorset 56 b abt 1864 Norway, to USA 1884
Oscar Thorset 22 b abt 1898 Minnesota, section hand on the railroad
Carrie Dakken 76 roomer, widowed
Per obituary posted on Find-a-Grave, Anna Peterson Knutson died
15 October 1923 in Alexandria, Douglas county, Minnesota, USA
Minnesota Official Marriage System (MOMS)
DOUGLAS COUNTY, MINNESOTA M - 156
09/04/1926
THORSET, OLE K
BJERKETVEK, CHRISTINE
https://www.moms.mn.gov/Search?S=1
1930
Alexandria, Douglas, Minnesota, USA
Address: 409 5th Avenue East
Ole K Thorset 73 born about 1857 Norway, to USA 1884
Christine Thorset 74 wife, born about 1856 Norway, to USA 1874
Knute T Noren 77 lodger
1940 US Census
Alexandria, Douglas, Minnesota
Address: 211 3rd Avenue
Ole H Thorset 84 born about 1856 Norway, owns his own home
Christine Thorset 84 wife, born about 1856 Norway
Minnesota Death Index
Ole Knutson Thorset
Death Date: 25 Apr 1944
Death County: Douglas
State File Number: 003684; Certificate Number: 003684
Certificate Year: 1944
Record Number: 949670
Minnesota Historical Society death index link
Buried beside each other:
Anna Peterson Knutson burial Kinkead Cemetery in Alexandria, Div 9-Blk 11-Lot N-grave 6
Ole Knutson Thorset burial Kinkead Cemetery in Alexandria, 1-9-11-N-7
See Find-a-Grave link above
Also on the Find-a-Grave link, as mentioned, the obit for Anna:
"Mr. and Mrs. Knutson were the parents of seven children, four of whom preceded their mother in death. Besides the husband, the following daughter and two sons survive, Mrs. Arthur Alger [= Ida], Carl O. and Oscar Knutson, all of this city. There are five grandchildren. Mrs. Knutson is also survived by one sister, who still lives in Norway, and another sister, Mrs. T. H. Bakke [= Margaret?], who lives in this city." |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 02/03/2017 : 22:22:43
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An Ancestry.com family tree has Caroline Knutson born March 1885 Douglas county, Minnesota, married to Henry Nelson in 1904 had two sons:
William Oleson Nelson born May 1905 in Douglas county, Minnesota
Alvin M. Nelson born 1907 Minnesota
and the tree says Caroline died 24 August 1908 in Minnesota
Same family tree has
Carl O Knutson born 20 July 1893 in Evansville, Douglas, Minnesota
married Minnie Florence Anderson 1893-1971
with daughters
Carol F Knutson 1919-1975 (died in Troy, New York)
Annette Jane Knutson 1921-2003 married James Lester Rudd 1916-1985
Tree says Carl died 20 June 1969 in Alexandria
The tree information needs to be checked out.
Find-a-Grave Memorial Ida Knutson Alger (1889-1962) link
Find-a-Grave creator lists Ida married Arthur Alger in 1913 in Alexandria link
Find-a-Grave lists Oscar Alfred Thorset Knutson died 02 April 1952 and buried Kinkead Cemetery in Alexandria
link
See Birth #9 1860 - Margarith - this may be the sister of Anna who married Thore Bakke and lived in Alexandria ("Mrs. T. H. Bakke" in obit):
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Find-a-Grave for Thore and Margaret Bakke, Kinkead Cemetery: link
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Edited by - JaneC on 02/03/2017 22:56:32 |
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Name of destination - Brandom
