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Pgalb
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 Posted - 27/03/2017 : 15:36:53
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I'm looking for Norway records of emigration, birth, census, baptism for Ivar Nyhagen from Nyhagen, Valdras, Norway. US census records indicate he arrived in America in 1884.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 27/03/2017 : 16:07:18
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This him?
Iver Nghagin
in the 1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Iver Nghagin
[Iver Nyhagen]
Age in 1910: 45
Birth Year: abt 1865
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1910: Eau Galle, Saint Croix, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1884
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Margrit Nyhagen
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Native Tongue: English
Occupation: Farmer
Industry: General Farm
Employer, Employee or Other: Employer
Home Owned or Rented: Own
Home Free or Mortgaged: Mortgaged
Farm or House: Farm
Naturalization Status: Naturalized
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Years Married: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Iver Nghagin 45
Margrit Nyhagen 53
Bertha R Nyhagen 15
Ida C Nyhagen 13
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 27/03/2017 : 17:14:55
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Probably the family in the 1900 Census. Spelling is a mess.
Elmer Myhagun
in the 1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Elmer Myhagun
[Emer Myhagess]
Age: 33
Birth Date: Jun 1866
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Cady, Saint Croix, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1885
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Maggie Myhagun
Marriage Year: 1890
Years Married: 10
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Elmer Myhagun 33
Maggie Myhagun 42
Edwin O Myhagun 7
Bertha Myhagun 5
Edith Myhagun 3 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 27/03/2017 : 18:26:26
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Where did the information that he was from Valdris come from?
Here is an Iver b 1866 #1 in 1867 without apparent Nyhagen connections:
SAH, Øystre Slidre prestekontor, Ministerialbok nr. 1, 1849-1874, s. 69
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070207650073
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Pgalb
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Posted - 27/03/2017 : 19:14:53
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| I can't verify he was from Valdris with any records other than other public ancestry records. I'm assuming the name Nyhagen came from a farm name. Ivar's father's name was Endre Larsen Jaastad (1846-1937). |
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jkmarler
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 27/03/2017 : 20:08:17
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The above mentioned Endre Larsen (of Jaastad farm) (1846-1937) was from Ullensvang/Kinsarvik districts (border lines varied through time) of Hordaland, Norway. The old region is known as Hardanger.
He married Torbjørg Olsdatter (of Aga farm) and they left for America in 1869. Norwegian books show that Endre studied as a teacher and minister. The book set "Odda, Ullensvang og Kinsarvik i gamal og ny tid" (Vol IV-1, page 595) further seems to indicate that he ministered in Rushford, Minn. US. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 27/03/2017 : 20:27:48
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Even pastors or pastoral candidates can father children without marriage to the mother of the child. But I quickly looked through Kinsarvik baptisms 1865-1869 but found no Ivar. The Norske Prester book says he was a seminarian at Stord so its possible that might have occured elsewhere than Kinsarvik.
So what's the source for the idea that Endre Larsen Jaastad is Iver Nyhagen's father? |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 27/03/2017 : 20:44:01
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There is an Iver Endresen who was born 18 June 1864 in Østre Slidre district, Oppland to Endre Knudsen and Rangnild Engebretsd. Østre Slidre is one of the districts within the ancient region often called Valdres.
The parish record of his birth/baptism makes the farm name appear something similar to Joestad?? but the handwriting is rough to make out.
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070207650065
The 1865 census puts the family as living on a farm called Sjaaheim.
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0544&kenr=007&bnr=0036&lnr=000
There also is a farm in Østre Slidre called Nyhagen. Perhaps Iver had earlier family ties to that farm OR was himself later connected to it before he left Norway. |
Edited by - Hopkins on 27/03/2017 20:45:28 |
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jkmarler
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Pgalb
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Posted - 27/03/2017 : 21:24:29
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| Again, the source of Ivar's parentage are public trees on Ancestry.com that do not verify with Norwegian records. There are several inconsistencies in the trees so that is making this more difficult. Is there a way to find out who lived on the Nyhagen farm in Ostre Slidre in 1865? thank you for digging with/for me. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 27/03/2017 : 21:33:19
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Here is a link to the main search page of the Norwegian digital archives. You may select 1865 census. and search. However I should tell you I've looked for any Iver / Ivar living on Nyhagen and there are none in all of Norway.
http://arkivverket.no/arkivverket/Digitalarkivet |
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Pgalb
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Posted - 27/03/2017 : 22:06:33
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You're right -- no Ivar on the Nyhagen farm. The Endre Larsen and Endre Knudsen are two possibilities as father to Ivar. Both Endre's have a connection to Jaastad/Jorstad farm.
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Edited by - Pgalb on 27/03/2017 22:17:53 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 27/03/2017 : 22:20:27
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Family trees submitted on Ancestry had any reliable sources cited? If not, then the trees themselves are highly suspect! I learned years ago that many to even most of those trees are very very flawed. It is too bad that many people just copy and take the same flawed information and believe that to be their own family tree.
I gave you a link to the family of Iver Endresen in 1865 Ostre Slidre and they were not living on Nyhagen at that time. The 1865 census indicated that Iver's father was a husmand -- therefore did NOT own any farm but rented or worked for other farmers.
You will find two Nyhagen farms in Oystre Slidre in 1865. A total of 14 persons and no obvious linkage to the family of Iver.
That situation is similar in the 1875 census - no linkage obvious to Iver.
That does not mean that he never resided on Nyhagen - just that he wasn't residing there the day of the census in 1865 or 1875.
1875 Iver is still on Sjaaheim farm with his widowed father and one brother.
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1875&knr=0544&kenr=004&bnr=0038&lnr=00
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Edited by - Hopkins on 27/03/2017 22:37:40 |
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Pgalb
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Posted - 27/03/2017 : 22:38:24
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| I am learning that the ancestry.com trees can be, as you say, highly suspect! One of the trees has Ivar being the son of the reverend Endres Larsen of Jaastad farm but his mother is unknown. In other words, he was perhaps born illegitimate one year before Endres emigrated and later married Torgbjorg Olesdattr. Appreciate your research Hopkins. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 27/03/2017 : 22:44:28
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This one? Iver A. Jørstad
Emigrating to Baldwin on May 11th, 1883.
Could be Baldwin, MN?
Census 1905 shows that his first son is born in MN:
Iver Nyhagen Head M 40y Norway
Margareth Nyhagen Wife F 49y Norway
Edwin D Nyhagen Son M 12y Minnesota
Bertha Nyhagen Daughter F 11y Wisconsin
Ida Nyhagen Daughter F 8y Wisconsin |
Edited by - jwiborg on 27/03/2017 22:47:27 |
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Ivar Nyhagen (1864-1940)
