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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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 Posted - 29/03/2017 : 00:23:43
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Perhaps this is the death record for the father Ole Andersen. Says he is from Norway and 65 years old. Present were Ole Olsen and unreadable name. Died March 10, 1863.
Ole Anderson
in the Quebec, Canada, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1968
Name: Ole Anderson
[Ole Andreson]
Event: Enterrement (Burial)
Burial Year: 1863
Burial Location: Gaspé, Québec (Quebec)
Place of Worship or Institution: Anglican Church |
Edited by - AntonH on 29/03/2017 00:26:09 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 29/03/2017 : 01:36:15
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Very interesting finds by everyone.
Some more history of Norwegians in Gaspe: link |
Edited by - JaneC on 29/03/2017 01:37:06 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 29/03/2017 : 03:18:43
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This descendant says Johann Hillmer Olsson (aka Henry John) was born 03 March 1854 at Fjilbecka (?), Sweden. She says he emigrated from Sweden 1869.
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Maybe this town? link
Stef, just to state the obvious - so far there's no evidence that Ole Andersen had children and no evidence he had a wife. There's no evidence John Leonard Olson was his son. There's no evidence that John Leonard Olson and Henry John Olson were brothers.
Based on a Roots web post, the family tree you posted begins with genealogy in Gaspe done by a local historian in the 1950s. It has been added to. The Roots web version does not list Guri. It does not link Ole wth John or John with Henry.
Have you tried writing to the family tree creator to ask for more information about the tree's sources? |
Edited by - JaneC on 29/03/2017 03:37:06 |
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stef
Junior member
Canada
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stef
Junior member
Canada
73 Posts |
Posted - 29/03/2017 : 03:48:17
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 29/03/2017 : 14:21:46
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Here again (see link below) is the same descendant of "Johann Hillmer." This post also does not tell where her information came from (she doesn't tell her sources). We obviously can't yet know if everything she writes is correct.
In this post she includes contact info:
http://www.genealogy.com/forum/regional/countries/topics/canada/51797/
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 30/03/2017 : 01:48:00
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| I notice that one link shows a birth of Mar 3, 1853 and another is Mar 3, 1854. Neither is findable in the Ancestry.com data base of "Sweden, Select Baptisms, 1611-1920" |
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stef
Junior member
Canada
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Posted - 30/03/2017 : 02:46:16
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| Maybe it-s not Sweden he came from but Norway |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9214 Posts |
Posted - 30/03/2017 : 03:33:58
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From Ancestry Roots discussion
Anna Olson, daughter of Ola and Gurs?? Anderson, Norwegian of Gaspé Basin, born Dec. 31st 1862, baptised Feb. 8th 1863. Signed Joseph and Frederick, last names illegible.
Ole Andreson, native of Norway, died on March 10th 1863, buried on the 21st. Present: ??? Lusen, Ole Oleson. |
Edited by - AntonH on 30/03/2017 03:35:31 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 01/04/2017 : 02:00:24
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N.C. Brun (1846-1919) arrived Gaspe in July 1861 on the Brig Brødrene, departing Trondheim May 25th, together with parents and other relatives.
In a history written in 1911, he describes the early years in Gaspe, which must have been a nightmare for most settlers. -Fearful experiences with hunger and cold in a forsaken and weather-beaten spot.
His father (Didrik Nilsen), and 3 families from Trøndelag settled together in the forest; the 3 were Johansen, Berg and tailor Andersen. The other people from Trøndelag settled further away from the coast. The popular coast were already taken by the English.
On behalf of the Canadian Government, agent Christopher Closter recruited people in the Stavanger area to emigate on the Bark Iris, while agent Helge Haugan recruited people from Trøndelag and North of Norway (Nordland / Troms) to emigrate on the Brig Brødrene.
Would you know if your folks were members of The Religious Society called "Quakers"? A lot of the people leaving on the Bark Iris from Stavanger to Gaspe in July 1861 were Quakers.
I'm a bit confused about the Fjällbacka information. What is the original source for that?
Agent Helge Haugan went far up north to recruite emigrants, so it's likely he also was in the Hemnes area were this Johan Henrik Olesen born 03 Mar 1854 was found, with father Ole Andersen. And one hour north of Hemnes is a place called Fjellbakken. Could be a coincidence, but...
The book "Norse heritage : yearbook. Vol. 2" published Stavanger 1991 tells that agent Closter recruited from the Stavanger region, while agent Haugan was successul in the Lofoten and Trondheim region.
Their two shiploads of settlers arrived Gaspe in early summer of 1861, along with a group of Swedish Quakers and a few stragglers picked up on the way.
All in all, approximately 400 new immigrants joined the one year old settlement,
Chances are very high that your folks arrived in 1861, from either of the mentioned places above.
Pastor N. C. Brun |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 01/04/2017 : 03:57:58
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A descendant made some claims on two links I posted including a birth place of "Fjilbecka, Sweden (near Stockholm)" She gave no sources and no indication of how she came up with that. If that had credible support and documentation, we'd expect to see that on the online family trees, but they do not include any birth place.
The descendant and the tree creator should be or could be contacted and queried about their sources. |
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CoookieNB
New on board
Canada
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Posted - 12/02/2020 : 14:52:49
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Hello, I just found this forum.
I am a descendant of John Olsson and I am doing my family genealogy. Emily Olson, John's daughter, was my mother's grand-mother in Gaspé, Qc. I am stumped at the same point you all were...now here's my theory based on the info available... John Olsson immigrated in 1880, at 30 years old. Ole Anderson was already dead by then. They might be related, but I don't think they came over at the same time. That's according to census data, but I'm still digging. |
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Tbagyan
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Canada
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Posted - 03/03/2020 : 14:31:56
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Hi Stef, my children are John L Olsen's great great grandchildren. I have a story from John's grand-daughter that John Olsen worked in a paper mill around the Gaspe area. When he was 50 years old, he died in a horrible accident at the mill. His wife Emma died a couple of years later in an asylum.
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CoookieNB
New on board
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Posted - 09/06/2020 : 21:11:26
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quote:
Originally posted by Tbagyan
Hi Stef, my children are John L Olsen's great great grandchildren. I have a story from John's grand-daughter that John Olsen worked in a paper mill around the Gaspe area. When he was 50 years old, he died in a horrible accident at the mill. His wife Emma died a couple of years later in an asylum.
Hi Tbagyan, thank you for that information. John and Emma's daughter Emily is my grand-father's mother. Looks like we are related! I grew up in the Gaspé area and my mom knew Emily. |
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stef
Junior member
Canada
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Posted - 24/09/2021 : 15:53:00
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| Thanks you Tbagyan It's interesting to have details about the lives of these brave men who crossed the ocean to rebuild their lives. Any details regarding the accident that claimed his life? |
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John Leonard Olsen (Olsson)
