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tmlynch
Starting member
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 Posted - 04/04/2017 : 22:57:06
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Adolf Ols., age 20, Anna Ols., age 24 and Adolf Ols., age 1 month are all listed emigrating in 1887. They are sequentially listed with a residence of Vigten. The older Adolf Ols. and Anna Ols. are both listed as unmarried. The younger Adolf Ols. is listed as "Søn". May I assume the younger Adolf is the son of the older Adolf and Anna Ols. even though each is listed as unmarried? Also, is it common for an unmarried women to take the surname of the father of her child?
When searching the Archive for 1887 emigration records from Vigten, with no names provided, is it common for family members to be listed one after the other? The reason I ask is Adolf, Anna and Adolf Ols. are listed immediately after the Anton Rønne family. The registration dates are all the same, 20.4.1887. The destinations are all the same, Emerson, Manitoba. The ship names are all the same, Hero as well as the ship line, Inman. I am trying to discover if "Anna Ols." is Anton Rønne's eldest daughter, Anna Ludvika.
Many thanks,
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 04/04/2017 : 23:35:59
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Anton Rønne from Vigten (Vikna sub parish) in Nærøy municipality is mentioned here
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Edited by - Kåarto on 04/04/2017 23:36:22 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 04/04/2017 : 23:40:33
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The port they were leaving from was Trondheim. That was unsaid and would have been very helpful.
http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=1&filnamn=EMITROND&gardpostnr=46850&sokefelt=skjul
Have you already checked the parish birth/baptism records for about the expected year of her birth in Vikna parish, Nærøy district, Nord-Trøndelag? Checked the 'outgoing' sections of the same books in 1887?
It appears that Adolf (the elder) is Anton's son - so your idea of the order of the list begins to look reasonable.
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Hopkins
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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7765 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2017 : 23:54:35
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I didn't find a household in 1900 with Adolph at top and a son named Adolph but there is this one with an Anton Olson (wife not named Anne but Wilhelmine) and son with birthdate about one year off that of 10month old Adolph:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9VJ-S7P |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 05/04/2017 : 00:07:49
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Anna Ludovika Antonsdatter
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Anna Ludovika Antonsdatter
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 25 sep 1862
Baptism Date: 2 nov 1862
Baptism Place: Ørland, Sør-Tröndelag, Norway
Father: Anton Andersen
Mother: Lorenze Eriksdatter
FHL Film Number: 307041
Reference ID: vol 7
#109
The family in the 1865 Census
1865
1875
Confimed
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/04/2017 : 00:29:11
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The book "Vikna-people in America" (publ. 1933) says that Anton Rønne emigrated to America in 1887 with wife Lorence and children:
1) Adolf, married to Anna Gade from Rørvik. Living in Erskine, MN.
2) Martin
3) Andreas
4) Hendrik
5) Johanna
6) Anna
7) Kaja
"The latter six are now (1933) all dead, except Hendrik."
The Vikna farm history book (publ. 1969) says:
"Anton & Lovise Rønne had many children. One of the sons, Anders Rønne, was married in 1882 to Emma Gade, Rørvik. The family emigrated to America in 1886, and the farm Hansvik was sold"
See #14
Are we talking about two brothers Rønne who married two sisters Gade, or is Adolf=Anders and Anna=Emma? |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/04/2017 : 00:59:24
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My personal feeling is that Adolf / Anna /Adolf is more likely the daughter Anna Ludovika and her partner and her child. The brother Andreas died quite early in Minnesota.
Anna Olson leaving through Trondheim:
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000090106 |
Edited by - jkmarler on 05/04/2017 01:15:49 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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7765 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2017 : 01:30:15
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Probably the son Andreas / Anders at FAG::
https://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=ronne&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=25&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=44806089&df=all&
There are 3 Ronne in the Oakdale cemetery in Crookston:
Ronne, Andrew E. 44806089
b. unknown d. Feb. 12, 1888 Oakdale Cemetery
Crookston Polk County Minnesota, USA
Plot: S, Block 3, Lot 1
Ronne, Anna K. 44806090
b. 1868 d. Jun. 8, 1948 Oakdale Cemetery
Crookston Polk County Minnesota, USA
Plot: T, Block 5, Lot 5
Ronne, Martin 44806091
b. 1865 d. Dec. 13, 1916 Oakdale Cemetery
Crookston Polk County Minnesota, USA
Plot: T, Block 5, Lot 5
Ronne in Sorum Cemetery in Polk county, Minnesota:
Lee, Kaia Ronne 57772114
b. 1867 d. Oct. 26, 1900 Sorum Cemetery
Polk County Minnesota, USA
Ronne, Gust I 55526163
b. Feb. 27, 1895 d. Jan. 28, 1976 Sorum Cemetery
Polk County Minnesota, USA
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 05/04/2017 : 03:07:19
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In the 1900 US Census there is a Hulda Olson born in North Dakota living as granddaughter with Anton and Lorenze Rynne in Red Lake County, Minnesota
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jkmarler
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/04/2017 : 16:50:15
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I was trying to connect Hulda with the Adolf and Wilhelmina family that you found in 1900 North Dakota. Hulda is listed as having been born in Barnes County North Dakota. Barnes and Griggs are adjacent counties. Here is Wilhelmina in 1910.
Family Search 1910
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jkmarler
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tmlynch
Starting member
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Posted - 05/04/2017 : 22:25:16
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Jackie, as you know, I am trying to identify the parents of my grandmother, Hulda Marie Olson and I too believe that Adolf / Anna / Adolf is Anton Rønne's daughter, Anna Ludvika, her son Adolf and her partner and father of the child, Adolf. This is what I am trying to determine with a measure of certainty, but I am not sure that I can prove this.
The 1900 U.S. Census as of June, 1900, shows Lorenze Rynne (Ronne) as having 9 children with just 3 still living. I believe the 3 living children at that time were Martin Ronne (dod 13 Dec 1916), Henry Ronne (dod 29 Jan 1934) and Kaia Ronne Lee (dod 26 Oct 1900).
So, I do not believe Kaia Ronne Lee to be the mother of Hulda since Hulda is still listed as living with Anton Rynne/Ronne and Kaia is listed with her spouse, child and step children.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M938-D4Y
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M93C-T3D
If I am correct in my belief that Kaia Ronne Lee is not the mother of my grandmother, Hulda Marie Olson, The the mother must be either Anna Ludvika Ronne, Johanna Elisabeth Ronne or Sofie Amalie Ronne.
The Anna Ols, that emigrated at the same time as most of the "Rønne family" in 1887 is as close as I have come.
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/sok/person_avansert?fra=1887&til=1887&ka%5B0%5D=3&kt%5B0%5D=EMIP&kt%5B1%5D=UTVA&kt%5B2%5D=PASS&kt%5B3%5D=PALI&fornavn=&etternavn=&kjonn=&fodselsaar=&fodselsdato=&fodested=&bosted=Vigten&jobb=&hendelsesaar=&hendelsesdato=&connection=overid&b1_fornavn=&b1_etternavn=&b1_kjonn=&b1_fodselsaar=&b1_fodselsdato=&b1_fodested=&b1_bosted=&b1_jobb=&b2_fornavn=&b2_etternavn=&b2_kjonn=&b2_fodselsaar=&b2_fodselsdato=&b2_fodested=&b2_bosted=&b2_jobb=&page=2
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 05/04/2017 : 22:39:29
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Johanna Rønne married Johan Markussen Ofstad, b. 12 Jun 1867. His parents were Markus Jensen Ofstad & Johanna Gundbjørnsen.
Johan emigrated in 1887 with Martin and Henrik Rønne. Johanna emigrated later same year. Johan and Johanna got married in America, prob. Crookston.
After 6 years of marriage, both Johanna and their two children were dead, so 5 years later Johan remarried Amanda Holmes, a woman with German roots.
They lived near Crookston, Polk, MN. With Amanda he had Leon, Irwin and Martha-Virginia. They also lived in Oakland, CA, where Amanda died in 1918. Johan later moved to Yes Bay, Alaska, where he bought salmon for canning co.
I believe most of the Rønne chldren lived in or near Crookston.
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Adolf Ols.(20y), Anna Ols.(24y), Adolf Ols.(1m)
