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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 05/04/2017 : 22:57:05
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Here is a birth date for Wilhelmina Olson. Here given middle name of Tobina? Date of Sept 1870 does match the 1900 Census data for Wilhelmina in North Dakota.Year of arrival is off by two for Anna Olson.
Date of arrival is given as Oct 1889 New York N.Y. Living at 1410 Racine St. Janesvill Wisconsin. Date on the card is Apr 7, 1942
Wilhelmina Tobina Olson
in the U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1992 (Indexed in World Archives Project)
Name: Wilhelmina Tobina Olson
Birth Date: 26 Sep 1870
Birth Place: Norway
Age at event: 71
Court District: Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, Iowa
Year of Arrival: 1889
Date of Action: 17 Apr 1942
Wllhelmina ended up in Wisconsin with two of her daughters Ruth and May.
Family Search 1930
Appears that she traveled to Norway. Listed here as Residence in Janesville Wisconsin and Chritiansen?
Wilhelmina Olson
in the Border Crossings: From U.S. to Canada, 1908-1935
Name: Wilhelmina Olson
Age: 63
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Arrival Port: Windsor, Ontario
Date of Arrival: 22 Aug 1932
Birth Location: Christiansau, Norway
Gender: Female
Citizenship: Norwegian |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/04/2017 : 23:19:06
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Helpful information on Johanna, Jan.
From MOMS
POLK I/299 07/30/1899 OFSTAD, JOHN HOLMS, AMANDA
POLK D/90 01/05/1889 OFSTAD, JOHN RYMME, JOHANNA
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/04/2017 : 23:59:41
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Originally posted by lyndal40
Here is a birth date for Wilhelmina Olson. Here given middle name of Tobina? Date of Sept 1870 does match the 1900 Census data for Wilhelmina in North Dakota.Year of arrival is off by two for Anna Olson.
Date of arrival is given as Oct 1889 New York N.Y. Living at 1410 Racine St. Janesvill Wisconsin. Date on the card is Apr 7, 1942
Wilhelmina Tobina Olson
in the U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1992 (Indexed in World Archives Project)
Name: Wilhelmina Tobina Olson
Birth Date: 26 Sep 1870
Birth Place: Norway
Age at event: 71
Court District: Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, Iowa
Year of Arrival: 1889
Date of Action: 17 Apr 1942
Wllhelmina ended up in Wisconsin with two of her daughters Ruth and May.
Family Search 1930
Appears that she traveled to Norway. Listed here as Residence in Janesville Wisconsin and Chritiansen?
Wilhelmina Olson
in the Border Crossings: From U.S. to Canada, 1908-1935
Name: Wilhelmina Olson
Age: 63
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Arrival Port: Windsor, Ontario
Date of Arrival: 22 Aug 1932
Birth Location: Christiansau, Norway
Gender: Female
Citizenship: Norwegian
It's most likely her as her son Orville ended up in Wisconsin also. In order for this to be the right family Wilhelmina would have to be the 2nd wife of Adolph. Would be great to find an obit for her or her children in which Hulda might be mentioned as half-sister or stepdaughter. Good sleuthing! |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/04/2017 : 00:08:05
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This does look like the son of Anton and Wilhelmina Olson. Original record looks like a G middle initial not C. Traveling with Delena and daughter June. Born in Valley City North Dakota which is in Barnes County. Same place that Hulda was born. Spent some time 1919 to 1920 in Winnipeg Canada. Going to uncle E? Anderson Thornbury Ontario. Nearest relative from where he came is mother Mrs. Olson Janvesville Wisconsin.
Orville C Olson
in the Border Crossings: From U.S. to Canada, 1908-1935
Name: Orville C Olson
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Arrival Port: Sarnia, Ontario
Date of Arrival: 30 May 1927
Birth Location: Vally City ND
Gender: Male
Citizenship: American
The Canadian connection could well be that Delena the wife was born in Canada.
Family Search 1930 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/04/2017 : 00:22:12
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Originally posted by tmlynch
Jackie, as you know, I am trying to identify the parents of my grandmother, Hulda Marie Olson and I too believe that Adolf / Anna / Adolf is Anton Rønne's daughter, Anna Ludvika, her son Adolf and her partner and father of the child, Adolf. This is what I am trying to determine with a measure of certainty, but I am not sure that I can prove this.
The 1900 U.S. Census as of June, 1900, shows Lorenze Rynne (Ronne) as having 9 children with just 3 still living. I believe the 3 living children at that time were Martin Ronne (dod 13 Dec 1916), Henry Ronne (dod 29 Jan 1934) and Kaia Ronne Lee (dod 26 Oct 1900).
Anton Andersen Rønns was Anton Rønne. A daughter Anna Ludvika was conf. in Vikna July 28. 1878. Mother was Lorenze Eriksdatter, see #14
She was born on Ørlandet Sept. 25. 1862, see #109
Ørland
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Kåarto
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Posted - 06/04/2017 : 01:17:00
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Not sure: here is Anton and Lorentze as farmers with 3 children, Anders, Martin and Anna on farm Rønne 1865
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jkmarler
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Posted - 06/04/2017 : 01:17:41
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Originally posted by lyndal40
This does look like the son of Anton and Wilhelmina Olson. Original record looks like a G middle initial not C. Traveling with Delena and daughter June. Born in Valley City North Dakota which is in Barnes County. Same place that Hulda was born. Spent some time 1919 to 1920 in Winnipeg Canada. Going to uncle E? Anderson Thornbury Ontario. Nearest relative from where he came is mother Mrs. Olson Janvesville Wisconsin.
Orville C Olson
in the Border Crossings: From U.S. to Canada, 1908-1935
Name: Orville C Olson
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Arrival Port: Sarnia, Ontario
Date of Arrival: 30 May 1927
Birth Location: Vally City ND
Gender: Male
Citizenship: American
Yes, on Orville's marriage record in 1922 his residence is given as Hamilton, Ontario. We don't know about Anton Ronne's siblings who might be known as Anderson. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/04/2017 : 01:29:49
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Not sure: here is Anton and Lorentze as farmers with 3 children, Anders, Martin and Anna on farm Rønne 1865
Sorry Kåre, I deleted my post because I found that the wife Delena had been born in Canada so it is possible that the uncle is hers.
If it helps any here is his marriage
Anton Andersen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Anton Andersen
Gender: Male
Age: 21
Birth Date: 1836
Birth Place: Ronne
Marriage Date: 15 jul 1857
Marriage Place: Ørland, Sør-Trøndelag, Norway
Father: Anders Johnsen
Spouse: Lorenze Eriksdatter
FHL Film Number: 307041
This is likely his baptism record
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/04/2017 : 03:46:54
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Okay, there was an article published in the Janesville Gazette about the retirement of Miss Mae Olson, in May 1966 from Sears. The article says Miss Olson and her mother Mrs. A. M. Olson came from Cooperstown, North Dakota to Janesville. She was transferred from Janesville to Tacoma Washington in 1951. Her mother died in 1952. Her brother Orville is still living at a Lake Gordon home. Her sister and brother-in-law Lester Falter also live in Janesville.
So here is the Washington State Secretary of State Digital archives transcript of Wilhelmina T. Olson's death record:
https://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/Record/View/6200EB380ACEF364D1CA87B057BC0969
The Janesville Gazette gives these names of her survivors:
Dr. Orville Olson, Whiting Ind.
Francis Olson, Shelton Wash.
Mrs. I.W. Foster , Ridgewood, N.J
Mrs. J.A. Sedguerick, Sugar Hill N.H.
Mae Olson, Shelton
Mrs. Lester Falter, Janesville
Among the details in chronology is that she was named Wilhelmina Thompson b. 26 Sept 1870 in Norway, came to US in 1887 to the Dakotas, was married to Rev. A..M. Olson in 1890. He died many years ago. The family moved to Janesville in 1927.
If that marriage year date is true, then Hulda could not have been a child of this Adolph Olson and a possible 1st wife Anna Antonsdatter as we were searching to determine.
In 1900 Wilhelmine's stats are b Sept 1870, came to US 1887, married for 13 years, mother of 3 and 3 are living, yet there are two children in the household Adolph aged 13 b Norway and Arthur aged 10 b North Dakota who are likely from a 1st relationship of Anton M. Olson.
In 1910 Wilhelmine's stats are b Norway about 1871, came to US in 1892, married 1 time for 19 years married, mother of 7 and 7 are living (but only 6 are listed in the house.) They are living in Cooperstown and she is taking in washing.
1910: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MLGT-H65
In 1920 Wilhelmine's stats are as Mrs. A.M. Olson aged 49, came to US in 1890, no children stats.
1920:https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MC8W-7GK
1930 Wilhelmine's stats are age 59, born Norway,widowed, married 1st time at 24 working as a practical nurse for private family, living with daughter and son-in-law.
1930: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9SP-ZGS
1940 Wilhelmine's stats aged 69, widowed b Norway
1940:https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K7JP-JS7
The kids didn't know for sure! Here is the marriage abstract in the pre 1925 marriages of North Dakota:
County: Barnes County (N.D.)
Groom: Olsen, Antony M.
Bride: Thompson, Wilhelmine Date: 11/02/1894
Info: __License Nbr: C-35
RedID: 176139
Back in play for Hulda!
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jkmarler
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/04/2017 : 16:42:50
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Yes not good Original record here
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jkmarler
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Posted - 06/04/2017 : 17:12:04
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Except it says she was born in Strinden and her father is "soldat".
And here is her baptism in Strinden (Bakkelandet) #28:
SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Sør-Trøndelag, 606/L0292: Parish register (official) no. 606A07, 1856-1865, p. 157
Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20050609010611
So whew.... |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/04/2017 : 17:33:00
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/04/2017 : 17:50:46
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Yes, but I have not examined them closely. I think the German description is wrong. Here is Anna, I will try and put together the others.
Anna Ronne
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Anna Ronne
Arrival Date: 6 May 1887
Birth Date: abt 1863
Age: 24
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: German
Place of Origin: Germany
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Destination: Chicago, Illinois
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/04/2017 : 17:57:11
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Here is the list, arranged by order on the original manifest
Arthur b 1837
Johana b 1847
Alof b 1875
Kate b 1876
Sophi b 1878
Olson b 186
Anna b 1863 One in the previous post
Avalf b 1881
Loran b 1839
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Adolf Ols.(20y), Anna Ols.(24y), Adolf Ols.(1m)
