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Karen Swensson
Starting member
USA
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 Posted - 06/05/2017 : 04:09:27
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| My great grandfather, his wife, and infant daughter landed in Quebec from the Anna Delius on June 7, 1866, en route to Wisconsin. Were there procedures in place to register their entry into Canada, and did they then need documentation to enter the USA? What means of land transportation would they have used? I'm trying to trace their journey from Quebec to Wisconsin. |
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amyanderson75
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 06/05/2017 : 05:46:40
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| My family came the same route in 1873. What info do you have on them? Names, dob, etc. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2017 : 15:09:28
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Also on this site is an actual passenger travel story about the Anna Delius in 1867 and bit after on the land:
http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_ship.asp?sh=annad
You may want to find others who were on the same voyage of the Anna Delius as your ancestors to find if they had preserved any on the sea and after journey stories. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 09/05/2017 : 18:27:29
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The most likely means of travel from Quebec to Wisconsin in 1866 was by train. The emigrants had in most cases bought a ticket to their final destination from the norwegian agent, which included steamer, railroad, ferries etc.
This article; Concerning Emigration?, was posted in the Norwegian "Billed-Magazin" in spring 1869.
It decribes several routes to the west, and how to cross Lake Michigan. The magazine was published in Madison, Wisconsin, and many subscribers send it home to friends and relatives in Norway.
The Grand Trunk line between Quebec and Toronto opened i 1856, and 3 years later you could get to Sarnia/Port Huron, and from there to Detroit.
So from 1859, almost all emigrants who went through Quebec and were headed for the Midwest, went by train. The Grand Trunk line had close to a Monopoly on that transportation.
Midwest
The railroad trip was a new and exiting adventure for the emigrants. Many had never seen a train before.
But the railroad company also knew to take advantage of the passengers. Often they used dirty cattle waggons containing only some planks and a barrell of water, and the emigrants were stowed in for a journey that could last for several days.
For those emigrants who's destination was Milwaukee, the most convenient was to change train in Detroit, and go to Grand Haven, MI,
From there they could go by steamer across Lake Michigan to Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Those who settled in Wisconsin, Minnesota, or northern Iowa usually choosed the Milwaukee route as the most convenient.
Below is a railroad map from 1887. Note that some of these tracks might not have existed in 1866.
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Karen Swensson
Starting member
USA
23 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2017 : 16:50:06
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Originally posted by amyanderson75
My family came the same route in 1873. What info do you have on them? Names, dob, etc.
Numbers 123-125 on the 1866 Anna Delius passenger list: Chr Hansen Aamathilla (Christian Hanson) born 8 Jun 1835, Helene Hansdatter born 10 Oct 1842, Marie Christiansdatter born 3 Dec 1865...from Land parish, Torpa, Upland. |
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Ray Syverson
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 11/05/2017 : 17:09:52
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| My 2nd grt grandfather also came over on the Anna Delius, and on this same voyage. For some reason he traveled using his brother's name, Marthinus Skartlien. He was from the Skartlien farm in Nordre Land, Oppland. I think he went to Black Earth, Wisconsin first, and afterwards moved down to Chicago. His name was Andreas Syversen Skartlien, and was born July 17th, 1835, so same age as Christopher Hanson. I wonder if they knew each other? Karen, was Aamathilla a farm name? |
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Ray Syverson
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 11/05/2017 : 21:32:34
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| My Andreas Syversen was in the same confirmation group as Christian Hansen at Aamodt Church in 1850, so I am sure they knew each other. I think what Karen has as "Aamathilla" is really Aamodt, or possibly a sub farm of Aamodt. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 11/05/2017 : 23:16:16
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Christian Hansen carried the Aamodt farm name in the marriage record.
#18
And the parents used the Aamodt name on Christians baptism record
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Edited by - AntonH on 11/05/2017 23:30:47 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2017 : 14:22:22
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1866
Anna Delius passenger list
http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_list.asp?jo=110
The farm name "Aamathilla" is transcribed here as
Aamothlia. Close to Aamodt, given poor handwriting in the original, and irregular spelling.
Karen, is this your source for the farm name? Is it your only source? What sources are you using for that name? |
Edited by - JaneC on 15/05/2017 01:04:54 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 12/05/2017 : 16:00:41
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| So basically address was the li on Aamoth. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/05/2017 : 13:19:50
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| As I understand it, the place name would refer to a subdivision of the larger farm Aamodt. The suffix li / lie / lien means hillside, so, a subfarm of Aamodt, located on a hill. |
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Karen Swensson
Starting member
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Posted - 16/05/2017 : 22:55:45
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| I used the names as they were listed on the Anna Delius passenger list. My great grandfather Kristian (Christian) Hanson (1835-1906) was the eldest child of Hans Kjellsen Bjørnsrud and Marte Hansdater Lystne (Torpa B bygdebok page 229). He and his family lived in a husmann's cottage built in 1723 on the Skredderstuen farm. The cottage, pictured on page 199 of the bygdebok, is still standing. |
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Karen Swensson
Starting member
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Posted - 16/05/2017 : 23:01:08
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| Mange takk for sending the marriage and baptism records! |
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Karen Swensson
Starting member
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Posted - 16/05/2017 : 23:55:44
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| I'm still learning how to navigate this forum website! My great grandfather lived on the Skredderstuen farm, in a husmann's cottage (built in 1723 and still standing but in need of repair) not far from the Aamot church. He traveled from Quebec to Rock County, WI where he stayed until 1868 or 69, and then moved to Richland County, WI where he died in 1906. I don't know anything about his trip from Quebec to Wisconsin, or anything about his friends in Rock County, but he certainly could have known your 2nd get grandfather on the ship. |
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Karen Swensson
Starting member
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23 Posts |
Posted - 16/05/2017 : 23:58:49
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quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg
The most likely means of travel from Quebec to Wisconsin in 1866 was by train. The emigrants had in most cases bought a ticket to their final destination from the norwegian agent, which included steamer, railroad, ferries etc.
This article; Concerning Emigration?, was posted in the Norwegian "Billed-Magazin" in spring 1869.
It decribes several routes to the west, and how to cross Lake Michigan. The magazine was published in Madison, Wisconsin, and many subscribers send it home to friends and relatives in Norway.
The Grand Trunk line between Quebec and Toronto opened i 1856, and 3 years later you could get to Sarnia/Port Huron, and from there to Detroit.
So from 1859, almost all emigrants who went through Quebec and were headed for the Midwest, went by train. The Grand Trunk line had close to a Monopoly on that transportation.
Midwest
The railroad trip was a new and exiting adventure for the emigrants. Many had never seen a train before.
But the railroad company also knew to take advantage of the passengers. Often they used dirty cattle waggons containing only some planks and a barrell of water, and the emigrants were stowed in for a journey that could last for several days.
For those emigrants who's destination was Milwaukee, the most convenient was to change train in Detroit, and go to Grand Haven, MI,
From there they could go by steamer across Lake Michigan to Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Those who settled in Wisconsin, Minnesota, or northern Iowa usually choosed the Milwaukee route as the most convenient.
Below is a railroad map from 1887. Note that some of these tracks might not have existed in 1866.
Click to enlarge
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Immigration through Quebec to the United States
