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Walter Lee
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 Posted - 09/08/2017 : 13:34:32
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Christensen Twins – born August 18, 1889 in St. James, Watonwan Co. Minnesota
I am assisting the grandson of William Severn Christensen (who later goes by surname “Lee” after adoption).
He has authorized me to provide the family’s detailed personal information in hopes of breaking through the brick wall beyond his grandfather.
This grandson is attempting to find the Norwegian ancestors of the biological parents of his grandfather, William Severn Christensen Lee.
These individuals are:
Christopher Christensen (born about 1865) and Sophia K. Johnson (born about 1866), both parents shown as being born in Norway
It would be very much appreciated if you could reply to me if any of the following information pertains to any of your family or if you recognize any connections. Thank you.
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The Watonwan County Court House - Birth and Death records showed the entries of these twin boys:
Christopher John (Charley) and William S. Christensen male white twins marked illegitimate - born to Christopher Christensen and Sophia K Johnson aged 24 and 23 respectively, both parents shown as being born in Norway.
The twins were born August 16, 1889 and registered August 17, 1889.
The interesting thing is that of all of the “illegitimate” births in the register, these twins were the only listings that showed the father; also it was one of the few written in ink – the others were just penciled in. Assume that pencil was used so that the names could be changed later on?
The county records show that the boys were with their mother Sophia in St. James, MN, for several years after their birth.
These twin boys were also referred to as the “Palmer Twins” in various Lee family later correspondence.
The precise reason for this is not known, other than the fact that a large Palmer family lived next door to Sophia and her twins in St. James when she and her boys were being provided with lodging by Henry Berentson and his wife at the expense of the county.
The county had a Poor Fund –the 19th century version of Welfare - with a good bit of Victorian condescending going on: “poor”.
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Watonwan County Commissioners Meetings
Payment issued:
POOR FUND
Year Ending Dec. 31, 1889
Henry Berentson for boarding Sophia K. Johnson $65.00
January 8, 1890
Henry Berentson for boarding Sophia Johnson $65.00
March 24, 1890
H. Berentson boarding of Sophia Johnson $55.00
July 12, 1890
Mathias Vagstad boarding of Sophia Johnson $86.00
Henry Berentson boarding of Sophia Johnson $95.00
Year Ending Dec. 31, 1890
Henry Berentson, boarding Sophia Johnson $155.00
M.M. Vagstad boarding Sophia Johnson $92.00
Jan. 16, 1891
M.M. Vagstad boarding Sophia Johnson $40.00
July 10, 1891
M.M. Vagstad, boarding Sophia Johnson $68.00
October 20, 1891
M.M. Vagstad, boarding Sophia Johnson $56.00
March 22, 1892
M.M. Vagstad, boarding Sophia Johnson and children $44.00
July 12, 1892
M.M. Vagstad, boarding Sophia Johnson and children $64.0
Year Ended 1893
County Commissioner Report
County Poor
Sophia Johnson and children (3rd district)…………………$238.28
1/3/1894
Tollack Tveit boarding Sophia Johnson’s children 3 days………..$1.50
Year Ended 1894
Sophia Johnson’s 2 boys…………….$151.5
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Later (1895?) The boys were adopted by the Torkel Lee family (my great uncle), who lived on a farm a few miles south of St. James in Long Lake Township.
The boys were given the last name “Lee”, which they went by for the rest of their lives.
Torkel Lee and family were residing in Long Lake Township, Watonwan County 1895 Census.
The 1895 census records show 2 young boys living with Torkel and his wife Thora and their 12 year old daughter Bertina.
Christopher Christianson Male 5 years old born in Minnesota.
Wilhelm Christianson Male 5 years old born in Minnesota.
In the 1900 Census the twin boys John C. Christianson (note that his name is shown as John C. instead of Christopher John) and his brother Wilhelm Christianson are still living with Torkel and Thora Lee.
In 1905 the two young boys, who would be 15, do not appear at the home of Torkel Lee.
But Torkel's sister Mari (Lee) Sulem (Sulheim) has with her: William Lee, male 15 years old born in Minnesota
Occupation: Farm Laborer .
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In the U.S. Evangelical Lutheran Church of America Records:
Church Name: Long Lake Lutheran Church Location: St James, Minnesota
Wilhelm S Lee in the US Evangelical Lutheran Churh of America Records
Name: Wilhelm S Lee Event Type: Confirmation Birth Date: 16 Aug 1889 Confirmation Date: 18 Oct 1903 Father: John Christenson Mother: Sophia Johnson
Christian J Lee in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1826-1940 Name: Christian J Lee Event Type: Confirmation Birth Date: 16 Aug 1889 Confirmation Date: 18 Oct 1903
Father: John Kristenson Mother: Sophia Johnson Church Name: Long Lake Lutheran Church Location: St James, Minnesota.
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William S. Lee and Christopher (Charley) Lee moved to Minneapolis sometime around 1906-1907.
There is a WS Lee (in family records) transcript from the University of Minnesota.
He got A's in Banking, Accounting, Math, but did not do well in some of the other subjects.
William Lee also took courses at William Mitchell College of Law at some point.
William Lee started with the Minneapolis Gas Company as a bookkeeper 1909-1910
William Lee met Lula McDougal in 1913. They were married in 1914 and moved in with Lula’s sister Leah Morehouse and her husband Cyrus Morehouse in South Minneapolis.
In the summer of 1914 William Lee and Lula Lee went to Havre Montana to homestead on 320 acres. They took the train there, purchased a team of horses, a wagon, plow and supplies and went to the land. The first summer they cut sod and planted wheat. After harvest in late August, they returned to Minneapolis and William returned to his job(?).
William Lee Draft Registration 1917 WWI - we assume that he was not drafted because he was married(?) Also he listed Manager Accounting Department Cedar Lake Ice Company as occupation. This was one of the companies that cut ice from the Lakes in the winter and stored it in huge cold houses insulated with sawdust for use in the refrigerator cars on the railroads and for retail sales to residential and commercial customers.
Christopher (Charley) Lee visited William in Havre during the summer. Charley got a job at a saloon on Main Street in Havre. He stayed and later got his own saloon in Glasgow, Montana.
Charley was very gregarious and stayed in Glasgow for many years and the two did not see each other as often.
Charlie entered the Army before WWI (assume 1916?) and was in the 3rd Company 166th Depot Brigade - Camp Lewis, Washington. Charlie entered the Army before WWI (assume 1916?).
Charley was married and then later divorced to Margaret Mcgrath in the Montana, County Marriages, 1865-1950 Name: Margaret Mcgrath Gender: Female Race: White Marital Status: Single Birth Date: 1889 Birth Place: Minnesota Father: D. F. Mcgrath Mother: Anna Mcginnes Spouse: C. J. Lee
C. J. Lee in the Montana, County Marriages, 1865-1950 Name: C. J. Lee Gender: Male Race: White Marital Status: Single Age: 28 Birth Date: 1889 Birth Place: Minnesota Marriage Date: 30 Jun 1917 Marriage Place: Cascade County, , Montana Father: T. S. Lee Mother: Sophia Johnson Spouse: Margaret Mcgrath FHL Film Number: 1940167
Charley ended up at a VA Sanitarium / Home in Marion County Indiana. From the record he was listed as a cook(?) He was taken ill in the 1930s and was then spent his remaining years there. The illness that he had initially appears and then goes into remission for a time – perhaps he worked during those times.
VA Records: Christopher J. Lee died April 23, 1966 Buried at Marion National Cemetery, Marion, Grant County, Indiana. He was a WWI Veteran from Montana.
Christopher J Lee in the U.S. Veterans' Gravesites, ca.1775-2006 Name: Christopher J Lee Service Info.: PVT US ARMY WORLD WAR I Birth Date: 16 Aug 1889 Death Date: 23 Apr 1966 Interment Date: 23 Apr 1966 Cemetery: Marion National Cemetery Cemetery Address: Vamc, 1700 East 38th Street Marion, IN 46952 Buried At: Section 6 Site 3951
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William S Lee in the 1920 United States Federal Census
Name: William S Lee Age: 31 Birth Year: abt 1889
Home in 1920: Excelsior, Hennepin, Minnesota Street: Smithtown Road
Relation to Head of House: Son-in-law Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Lela Lee
Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's Birthplace: Norway Native Tongue: English Able to Speak English: Yes Occupation: Accountant Industry: Trust Co
Wm S Lee in the 1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Wm S Lee Birth Year: abt 1889 Gender: Male Race: White Birthplace: Minnesota Marital Status: Married Relation to Head of House: Head Home in 1930: Minneapolis, Hennepin, Minnesota
Street address: Irving Avenue S Ward of City: 8 Block: 404 House Number in Cities or Towns: 3309 Dwelling Number: 70 Family Number: 104 Home Owned or Rented: Owned Home Value: 9000 Radio Set: Yes Lives on Farm: No Age at First Marriage: 26 Attended School: No Able to Read and Write: Yes Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's Birthplace: Norway Able to Speak English: Yes Occupation: Pincharing ?? [purchasing bonds??] Industry: Bond House Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker Employment: Yes
Wm S Lee in the 1930 United States Federal Census
Name Age Wm S Lee 41 Lula Lee 41 [WIFE] Jane C Lee 11 Phyllis Lee 9 [DAUGHTERS] Clorinda Mcdougall 67 [Lula’s MOTHER] Leah Morehouse 43 Mrs. Cyrus Morehouse [LULA’S SISTER]
Clorinda Jane Lee in the Web: Minnesota, Birth Index, 1900-1934 Name: Clorinda Jane Lee Birth Date: 20 Jul 1918 Birth Place: Hennepin, Minnesota, USA Father's Surname: Lee Mother's Maiden Name: MacDougall Certificate Number: 1918-45883 URL: http://people.mnhs.org/bci/Res...
William Severn Lee in the U.S., World War II Dra Registration Cards, 1942 Name: William Severn Lee Gender: Male Residence Age: 52 Birth Date: 16 Aug 1889 Birth Place: St James, Minnesota, USA Residence Date: 1942 Residence Place: Minneapolis, Minnesota Height: 5 9 Eye Color: Blue Hair Color: Gray Weight: 165 Complexion: Light
William Lee moved to the bond firm of Wells Dickey in Minneapolis.
After WWII William move to Peat Marwick Mitchell (now KPMG). William retired at 65 in 1954, however, William was called back every year for months at a time for the next 15 years.
William passed away at age 93 in 1981. William S . Lee in the Minnesota, Death Index, 1908-2002 Name: William S . Lee Birth Date: 16 Aug 1889 Death Date: 3 Dec 1981 Death County: Hennepin Mother's Maiden Name: Johnson State File Number: 030387 Certificate Number: 030387 Certificate Year: 1981 Record Number: 2063051
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Kåarto
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Posted - 09/08/2017 : 14:14:35
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A candidate
Severin Wilhelm Christensen born June 25. 1850 in Kongsberg town, Buskerud County, parents; Christian Berg and Ingeborg Olsdatter, see baptism #149
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Walter Lee
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Posted - 09/08/2017 : 14:39:45
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Thanks Kåre, but I am unable to access the site; I have tried many variations of cut and paste but all tell me that there is no such page.
Also, the William Severn Christensen that I am looking for was born on 16 Aug 1889 in Minnesota.
His father, Christopher Christensen was born about 1865 in Norway, which is only 15 years after the Severin Wilhelm Christensen that you found who was born June 25. 1850 in Kongsberg town, Buskerud County.
It is possible that there is a link, but I still need to be able to access the digitalarkivet document to confirm.
Thanks again. |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 09/08/2017 : 14:43:56
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I have a better candidate, he was born Nov. 17. 1830, do you want to look into his bapt. record or do you think he is to old?
Wilhelm Severin Christensen, parents; Christian Willachen and Ane Martine Johannesdatter. He was born out of wedloc, his father was a Musqeter, a soldier. |
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Walter Lee
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Posted - 09/08/2017 : 14:47:40
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| Thanks Kåre, I can now access the document. |
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Walter Lee
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Posted - 09/08/2017 : 14:53:13
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Wilhelm Severin Christensen, parents; Christian Willachen and Ane Martine Johannesdatter - born Nov. 17. 1830
This one appears to be a prime candidate; if this is the correct individual, he would have been only 35 years old at the time of his son's birth in 1865.
I think that I would want to look into his bapt. record.
Thanks again.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 09/08/2017 : 14:55:05
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Wilhem Severein Christensen b. Nov. 17. bapt Dec. 12. 1830.
Parents Bachelor and Musqeter (an enlisted soldier with a rifle) Christian Willachen and Maid Ane Martine Johannsedatter, see bapt #5
He was born in Bergen, the capitol of Western Norway and baptized in "Korskirken" The Cross church-
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Kåarto
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Posted - 09/08/2017 : 15:00:41
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Wilhelm/William Severin, a rare combination.
In the 1865 census there were 0 persons with first names William Severin, and only 3 persons baptized Wilhelm Severin in the whole Norway
Wilhelm Severin Christensen, it can't be many of him born in Norway, perhaps only one. Still we don't know 100% if he is the right person.
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Walter Lee
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Posted - 09/08/2017 : 16:39:42
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Thank you, I agree that you have probably found the father of the person that I am looking for, who in various documents in Minnesota has been called Christopher Christensen / John Christenson / John Kristenson.
Is it possible to find if this Wilhem Severein Christensen b. Nov. 17. bapt Dec. 12. 1830, had a son who was born about 1865 with a name similar to Christopher Christensen, John Christenson, or John Kristenson or a combination of these names, who emigrated to America prior to 1889?
Thanks again, your assistance is much appreciated. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 09/08/2017 : 17:48:49
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Ancestry.com has this record.
Wilhelm Severin Christiansen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Wilhelm Severin Christiansen
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Birth Date: 17 nov 1830
Marriage Date: 22 jun 1856
Marriage Place: Korskirken, Bergen, Hordaland, Norway
Father: Christian Willaksen
Spouse: Pernille Marie Henriksdr
Pernille Marie Henriksdr
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Pernille Marie Henriksdr
[Pernille Marie Arnesen]
Gender: Female
Age: 21
Birth Date: 3 jan 1835
Marriage Date: 22 jun 1856
Marriage Place: Korskirken, Bergen, Hordaland, Norway
Father: Henrik Martines Arnesen
Spouse: Wilhelm Severin Christiansen
FHL Film Number: 278111
Reference ID: 2:1KQ503R
FHL Film Number: 278111
Reference ID: 2:1KQ503R
Pernille Marie
in the Norway Births and Christenings, 1600s-1800s
Name: Pernille Marie
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 3 jan 1835
Christening Date: 18 jan 1835
Christening Place: Bergen, Hordaland, Norway
Father: Henrik Martines Arnesen
Mother: Anne Karine Gullaksdr |
Edited by - AntonH on 09/08/2017 17:51:36 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 09/08/2017 : 20:14:19
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Palmer / Palme / Palma is not a terribly common name for Norway. Here are links to Helge Palmer who was a very early resident of Watonwan county, Minnesota:
Helge Palmer in Brown county in 1860 next to Palme Oleson and a woman named Julia:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9BS3-NR5?cc=1473181
Helge Palmer in Watonwan county, Minnesota in 1870 line 8:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D899-9FC?i=16&cc=1438024
Helge Palmer in Watonwan county, Minnesota in 1875:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKJ9-7QT
Helge Palmer in Watonwan county, Minnesota in 1880:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZ9B-WXR
Helge Palmer in Watonwan county, Minnesota in 1885:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQXX-7WB
Helge Palmerson in Watonwan county, Minnesota in 1895:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQ65-H4T
Helge Palmer in Watonwan county, Minnesota in 1900 (no date of birth, no date of migration but says he is naturalized)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6PX3-P1G?i=36&cc=1325221
Helge Palmer’s death, says he was born in Ringenke which is probably Ringerike.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FD94-PYV
Death of Helge’s mother Ronnaug in Watonwan county:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FDCJ-B51
Unfortunately Helge's children all appear to have been born in Minnesota and may be one of the parties in these two marriages from
Watonwan:
WATONWAN
D-045
09/20/1893
COOK, ERNEST W
PALMER, MARGARITA E
WATONWAN
D-028
07/06/1893
SWENSON, LARS
PALMER, PETRA
And of course there are Norwegian Palmers in nearby Brown county.
Here is Helge Palmson's likeliest baptism transcription:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NHFY-JK3
I hate to ask but have you looked for a baptismal for the twins? If the birth mother kept them for a while perhaps she had them baptized and named relatives of hers or the father for godparents.
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eibache
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Posted - 09/08/2017 : 20:28:34
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Is it possible to find if this Wilhem Severein Christensen b. Nov. 17. bapt Dec. 12. 1830, had a son who was born about 1865 with a name similar to Christopher Christensen, John Christenson, or John Kristenson or a combination of these names, who emigrated to America prior to 1889?
Wilhelm Severin Christiansen and Pernille Marie Hendriksdatter who were married June 22 1856 had only these children in 1875:
Wilhelmine Marie Wilhelmsdatter, Birth Date 13 febr 1861
Anna Matilde Wilhelmsdatter, Birth Date 09 Dec 1869
Astrid Vilhelma Wilhelmsdatter Birth Date 12 Aug 1875
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jkmarler
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Posted - 09/08/2017 : 21:51:59
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Since we know so little about the mother, Sofie Johnson, here is a exceedingly long shot possible migrating from Arendal in 1888 with her father Edvart Johansen and siblings:
https://digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000270932
Here is their arrival in Boston, Mass.:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939K-YC62-B?i=614&cc=1860873
May be the daughter Ansine marrying in Mannhattan in 1907:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24HV-W2Q
In 1885 in Norway:
https://digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01053281004255
Probably Ansine in 1920 census:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJ5T-ZVW
Ansine making a trip to Norway in 1905:
https://digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000309329
Ansine died in Florida between 1930-1940. Her daughter Mary T. Kelstrup married a man named Goodman Swensen and had at least 3 children a boy named Severin K b abt 1938, and twins Genevieve and Julia b abt 1943. Here they are in 1940 census:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VTCX-5MF
Obit of the daughter Mary T Swensen with an additional child and name clarified to Geneva:
MARY THERESA SWENSEN
age 90, of West Palm Bech, entered into rest on May 22, 1998. She was born in Brooklyn, NY and moved to Florida at the age of 17. She resided in Lake Worth until 3 years ago, moving to West Palm Beach. The house she resided in 1932 is now Chez Max.
Survivors include son, Severin Swensen; daughters, Geneva Allen and Julie Swensen; son, Gerry Swensen; grandchildren, Kevin Swensen, Severin B. Swensen, Eric Swensen, Craig Allen, Eric Allen and Theresa Swensen; 10 great grandchildren and 2 great great grandchildren.
Family and friends may call on Tuesday, May 26, 1998 at E. EARL SMITH & SON FUNERAL HOME, EAST CHAPEL, 1032 North Dixie Highway, Lake Worth from 1-3 & 5-6:30 with services at 6:30 p.m.
In lieu of flowers, donations can be made to Hospice of Palm Beach County.
Arrangements entrusted to E. EARL SMITH & SON FUNERAL HOME.
Palm Beach Post, The (FL) - Monday, May 25, 1998
In 1910 an Edward Johnson lodging with a Sophie Johnson and a Nickoline Johnson in Massachusetts:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M2KG-KPB
As well as 1920:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MF9H-9D2
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Recap: Sophie Johnson was born Norway about 1866 and was single in 1889 and was for certain in Minnesota in 1889 and was last mentioned as receiving social service in 1893, thereafter only Sofie Johnson's boys were mentioned. |
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Walter Lee
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Posted - 10/08/2017 : 07:28:20
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I have today contacted the grandson of William Severn Christensen to confirm whether there is any evidence of baptism documents/information that hasn't been made known to me.
Once that he replies to me, I will advise.
Thanks again, the response from the folks on this site to my inquiry has been phenomenal. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 10/08/2017 : 14:33:21
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The father target Christopher Christenson or John Christenson was born in Norway about 1865, was single in 1889, possibly lived in Minnesota in 1889.
Here is a long shot possible C. John Christenson in 1895 Minnesota:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQ6Y-4PN
And if he was "local" (but born in US) here is a Watonwan fellow named Johannes and he has an interesting brother named Christen in 1880:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZ9B-H71
The reason I asked about the baptismal is it might possibly be in the ELCA database which you have already accessed.
Or born in Europe elsewhere than Norway in 1895 census:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQ6R-MSZ
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 10/08/2017 : 16:21:18
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interesting candidate Jackie especially the use of the John and C in the name.
John and family in Chippewa County in 1900 Census
1900
1910
1920
A family tree on Ancestry.com has him married to
Marit Lovhaug
BIRTH 13 JUN 1862 • Nord Aurdal, Oppland, Norway
DEATH 7 SEP 1949 • Chippewa, Minnesota, USA
daughter of
Erik Erikson Lovhaug
BIRTH 14 JAN 1822 • Bruflat, Oppland, Norway
DEATH 4 JAN 1902 • Mandt, Chippewa, Minnesota, USA
and
Ingeborg Olsdatter
BIRTH 16 JAN 1838 • Oppland fylke, Norway
DEATH 10 MAR 1898 • Mandt, Chippewa, Minnesota, USA
No information on the history of John C before his marriage with Mary.
John C Christenson
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, Records, 1826-1940
Name: John C Christenson
Death Age: 58
Event Type: Burial
Birth Date: 3 Jan 1866
Birth Place: Norge
Death Date: 22 Nov 1924
Burial Date: 25 Nov 1924
Spouse: Mariet Louhang
Church Name: Jevnaker
Church Location: Montevideo, Minnesota |
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Christopher Christensen/Sophia Johnson/Twin sons
