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Nettierud
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USA
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Posted - 01/11/2017 :  14:49:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is my 2nd great grandmother's marriage record in Osseo Wisconsin. Her name was Martha or Mathia Peterson and she was born in 1842 in Norway. I am trying to read what her father's last name could be-(2nd name to bottom of the page) but the handwriting is poor and the writer is using a lot of soundex and butchering the names. For instance 4th name to the bottom is supposed to be Orm Gullaugson and Ester Olson is supposed to be Astrl Eigildson. Peter's last name doesn't look like anything that I have heard before. Anyone care to take a stab at this one?








Edited by - Nettierud on 16/11/2017 18:45:08

AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 01/11/2017 :  16:42:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A guess Peter Trygsen
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Nettierud
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USA
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Posted - 01/11/2017 :  17:53:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Lyndal- any guesses are welcome. I'll follow up on them all.

Nettie
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 01/11/2017 :  20:01:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am assuming that since you are trying to determine the name of Martha or Mathia Peterson's father that you have not found her baptism record. Is that correct.

The reason for looking at the husband is that sometime the couple know one another is that they come from the same area of Norway. It would appear that Halvor's parents are this couple.

Halvor Ormsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Halvor Ormsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 5 jul 1827
Baptism Date: 8 jul 1827
Baptism Place: Treungen, Telemark, Norway
Father: Orm Gullougsen
Mother: Astri Egilsdr
FHL Film Number: 126963
Reference ID: 2:10V71J5

and they were married

Orm Gullougsen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Orm Gullougsen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 25 okt 1807 (25 Oct 1807)
Marriage Place: , Kviteseid, Telemark, Norway
Spouse: Astri Egildsdr
FHL Film Number: 126954
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Nettierud
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Posted - 01/11/2017 :  20:25:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's right. I haven't found anything on her except for the marriage record and the 1880 census in Hale, Trempealeau county Wisconsin when she was married. Her daughter's marriage record also lists her as Mathia Petersen.

Nettie
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JaneC
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USA
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Posted - 01/11/2017 :  20:26:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In a previous thread, Oluf C Hagen married Anne Ormson. This is Anne's father Halvor in 1900, with birthday listed as May: link

Anne's 1895 marriage record lists her mother as Mathia Pederson. link

1880
Halvor and Mathia
link

Edited by - JaneC on 01/11/2017 21:59:22
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Nettierud
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Posted - 01/11/2017 :  20:47:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes that is true Jane that he says May but he also reports his birth year differently in every census I have found him in. I really think there is a language or speech barrier at play.

Nettie
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Nettierud
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Posted - 01/11/2017 :  21:52:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Also thank you for the additional research- much appreciated.

Nettie
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JaneC
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USA
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Posted - 01/11/2017 :  22:29:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Your Halvor?

Halvor Ormsen (Tvedt)
1870
Iowa county, Wisconsin
link

Find-a-Grave memorial says this Halvor is buried in Dane county, Wisconsin.

Find-a-Grave
Torof Ormsen Tvedt
link


1801 on Tvedt in Kviteseid, Telemark
Orm Gullougsen and Astri Egildsdatter as neighbors
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01058316003128



Edited by - JaneC on 01/11/2017 22:58:13
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Nettierud
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Posted - 01/11/2017 :  23:55:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I believe they are the same individual- others may dispute. He immigrated in 1862 with his brother Toruf. Then he is in the 1870 census in Ridgeway, Iowa, Wisconsin as a single man. I believe he then marries Martha/Mathia in 1873 and they live in Hale, Trempealeau co. I show them next in the 1875 Wisconsin census, then the US census in 1880 both in Hale. Martha then disappears from record. Halvor is in the 1895, 1900, 1905 censuses with his daughter(s). Nothing after that- no death record found and he may be buried in Dane. Anne moves to North Dakota by 1910 and her sister moves with her to Minnesota after that. The sister Lena's death certificate lists her father's name as Halvor Ormson Tweit* I can't tell if there is another letter after the T on the record.
That's all I have. Thanks for helping!

Nettie
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Kċarto
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Norway
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Posted - 01/11/2017 :  23:59:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Orm and Ormsson are very rare names in Norway, but an ordinary name especially in the Viking- and Middle age, Norse "Ormr", and means Snake/Seerpent and is referring to the Midgard Serpent in Norse mythology .

Kċre
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Nettierud
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Posted - 02/11/2017 :  00:30:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's so interesting, thank you.

Nettie
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 02/11/2017 :  07:53:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Who is the Christian Petterson in the household in 1880? Might he be a brother or relative of Mathea?

Here is a marriage from Trempealeau county for a Christian Pederson in which his father is named Peter Torbjornson:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XRKR-58Y

Here in the 1905 Wisconsin census:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MMQZ-82B

Since its not known when Mathea arrived in US (or have you found her in the 1870 census?) here is a slightly possible #167:
http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_list.asp?jo=531&ps=90439

Here is Tomas Pederson Grassiet in the 1865 census as a single man: https://digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038072003839

Interesting there is also a son named Christian in the household.

Here are Kristian and sister and parents in 1875 census:
https://digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052103005369

Probably Christian going to White Hall, Wisconsin in 1878:
https://digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000436282

Tomas' baptism #133 in 1843:
SAH, Land prestekontor, Parish register (official) no. 8, 1830-1846, p. 99
Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070603890148

Mathea Pedersdatter # 3 in girls confirmations in 1855 birthdate appears to be 30 Apr 1840:
SAH, Land prestekontor, Parish register (official) no. 10, 1847-1859, p. 90
Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070206650432

Oslo police list for Mathea Pedersdatter Granseth leaving in 1868:
https://digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000391272

Probably the sister Alette in 1900 census in Norway:
https://digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037090003568

Probably Alette in 1910 census Norway. Also of interest in the place is a Matea b 1852 s. Land a widow (which may cut against the US Matea):https://digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01036440003980

Sister Pauline in 1875 Norway census:
https://digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052103005346

Probably sister Pauline with husband and family in 1900 census:
https://digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037092000536

And also in 1910 census:
https://digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01036442000758



Edited by - jkmarler on 03/11/2017 11:34:25
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JaneC
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USA
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Posted - 02/11/2017 :  12:46:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Birth of candidate Christian
link


1900 census
Hale, Trempealeau, Wisconsin
Christian Pederson (listed as born February) is a neighbor
to Halvor Ormson
link


1910 census
Cris Pederson etc
Next door is Petter Pederson and a Nelson family
link

Edited by - JaneC on 02/11/2017 14:49:43
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Nettierud
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USA
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Posted - 02/11/2017 :  14:49:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
JKMarler: Those are very exciting leads. I am at work but will look closer at the links this evening. I have checked into Christian before but only found the census records and not the marriage record listing his father's name. You are all amazing- thanks Jane as well.

Nettie
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Nettierud
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USA
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Posted - 02/11/2017 :  18:37:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Too excited, I came back at lunch break.
JK- so far all those leads look promising....and you let me find her birth record- how nice. She was born Apr. 20th 1841. Her mother's name was Anne Marie Christoffersdr. I thought that was quite telling because my great grandmother(her daughter?) was also named Anne Marie. The Matea in 1910 could be different person- the birth year is 10 years off so I won't lose hope. I'll have to see if I can track down Tomas in the USA next to see if he can lend any more clues.

Jane: Your links were helpful as well. Did you notice how Christopher's age is reported badly in all of those censuses?

Nettie

Edited by - Nettierud on 04/11/2017 15:01:46
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