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Anne Brit Benum
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Posted - 29/11/2017 :  18:19:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
...was born January 28, 1897. She had the same parents as Konrad Josef Vist, and they were born on the same Place in North-Trøndelag. Margit Johanne emigrated in 1916. What is it possible to find about her in US?

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jkmarler
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Posted - 29/11/2017 :  19:24:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Her destination was Cross Range Montana:
https://digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000000212139
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Anne Brit Benum
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Posted - 29/11/2017 :  20:03:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How fine - and is it possible to find out what happened to her complete life?

Anne Brit Benuj
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AntonH
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Posted - 29/11/2017 :  21:14:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Traveling with her is a Margue West (Wist) both are going to their brother Johannes Wist, Grass Range Montana

Margue West
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Margue West
Arrival Date: 15 Apr 1916
Birth Date: abt 1899
Birth Location: Nrw
Birth Location Other: sparbu
Age: 17
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Bergen
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Kristianiafjord

His name is Magne in the Emigration Record

Emigration

Edited by - AntonH on 30/11/2017 21:36:49
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AntonH
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Posted - 29/11/2017 :  21:20:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No date on the card but crossing into and out of Canada fits

Margaret Wist
in the U.S., Border Crossings from Canada to U.S., 1895-1960
Name: Margaret Wist
Port of Arrival: Sweet Grass, Montana, USA
Record has photo?: No
Record Type: Cards
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AntonH
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Posted - 29/11/2017 :  21:51:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the family in the 1900 Norwegian Census.

1900

#6

Here is much of the same family in the 1920 US Census. This would indicate that the mother also immigrated to America.

1920

Edited by - AntonH on 30/11/2017 17:16:56
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AntonH
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Posted - 29/11/2017 :  22:07:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks like Magne died in California in 1954

Magne Wist
in the California, San Francisco Area Funeral Home Records, 1895-1985
Name: Magne Wist
Gender: Male
Race: Caucasian (White)
Birth Date: 22 Mar 1899
Birth Place: Spartu, Norway
Age: 55
Death Date: 19 May 1954
Death City: San Francisco
Death County: San Francisco
Death State: California
Death Country: United States
Father: Magnus Wist
Mother: Margrete Bjerkan
Funeral Home: N. Gray and Company
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Anne Brit Benum
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Posted - 29/11/2017 :  22:25:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How very exciting! Thank you very much!!

Anne Brit Benuj
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jkmarler
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Posted - 30/11/2017 :  04:52:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A brother named Fred West married in Montana:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3WK-3F7
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AntonH
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Posted - 30/11/2017 :  05:46:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a birthdate for Fred West, strange I do not see him in the 1900 Norwegian Census.

Fred West
in the Montana, County Births and Deaths, 1830-2011
Name: Fred West
Gender: Male
Death Age: 44
Birth Date: 3 Mar 1892
Birth Place: Norway
Death Date: 28 Sep 1936
Death Place: Near Clancy, Jefferson, Montana, USA
Father: Peter W West
Spouse: Alice E West
Certificate Number: 32

Another record different birth year

Fred Wist
in the Montana, County Naturalization Records, 1867-1970
Name: Fred Wist
Declaration Age: 19
Record Type: Declaration
Birth Date: 3 Mar 1890
Birth Place: Stenkjar Norway
Arrival Date: 2 May 1907
Arrival Place: New York, New York
Declaration Date: 25 May 1909
Declaration Place: Lewis and Clark, Montana, USA
Court: District
Declaration Number: 226

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jkmarler
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Posted - 30/11/2017 :  05:57:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well there is a Wilhelm Frederick Wist in the WWI draft registrations in Montana. His nearest relative is a Gustav Wist. Birth year is 1886, don't remember the date.
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Anne Brit Benum
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Posted - 30/11/2017 :  10:38:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you!

Anne Brit Benuj
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AntonH
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Posted - 30/11/2017 :  20:58:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A strange business with this Vist/Wist/West family. In the topic on Konrad Josef Vist, Jackie posted a link to the 1910 US Census for Conrad Wist which seemed to fit the guy the poster was seeking. Now here is a record for Fred Wist in the 1910 US Census, same location in Montana and a person below him whose name is Conrad West, both came over in 1903. Or perhaps 1907 see above record for a different year.

Fred Wist

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AntonH
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Posted - 30/11/2017 :  21:17:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Well there is a Wilhelm Frederick Wist in the WWI draft registrations in Montana. His nearest relative is a Gustav Wist. Birth year is 1886, don't remember the date.



I think both Wilhelm Fredrick and Gustav Wist are from Germany.

Wilhelm Fredrick Wist
in the U.S., World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
Name: Wilhelm Fredrick Wist
Gender: Male
Race: White
Residence Age: 56
Birth Date: 2 May 1886
Birth Place: Hamalworden, Germany
Residence Date: 1942
Residence Place: Billings, Montana, USA
Occupation: Self
Height: 5 10
Eye Color: Blue
Hair Color: Red
Weight: 175
Complexion: Ruddy

That does not solve the mystery of Fred Wist of Norway and the second Conrad West both living in Montana.
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AntonH
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Posted - 30/11/2017 :  21:39:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is likely Fritjof Petersen Wist leaving in 1907

1907

And he and his family in the 1900 Norwegian Census

1900


Still a mystery to me, none of this fits very well with the Fred West married in Jefferson Montana in 1925 posted by Jackie.

Well this may shed some light on the mystery. it is the 1891 Census for Sparbu and it shows a Fridthjof Wist with father and mother same as for Konrad Josef.

1891 Census

So two children are missing from the 1900 Census that are found in the 1891 Census.
Gulløv Fredrikke and Fridthjof

Fridthjof is living with a different family but still in Sparbu at a neighboring farm in 1900.

1900

Fridthjof was born March 2, 1890, Parents are Magnus Pedersen and Margaret Kristofferdatter.

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Anne Brit Benum
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Posted - 30/11/2017 :  23:16:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, the two mentioned guys in the "blue" answer must be from Germany - they are not from Sparbu in Norway. Thank you, all the same!

Anne Brit Benuj
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