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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 25/05/2018 : 22:50:08
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Here is the arrival of Mathias Anderson with wife and three children
Mathias Andersen
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Mathias Andersen
Arrival date: 8 Jul 1870
Birth Date: abt 1837
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian
Place of Origin: Norway
Port of Departure: Christiansand, Norway and Swinemunde, Germany
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Western Metropolis
Passengers are listed as
Mathias Andersen abt 1837
Pferte Andersen abt 1845
Emiie Andersen 1866
Marie Andersen 1867
Edward Andersen 1870
Original record
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Edited by - AntonH on 25/05/2018 23:58:41 |
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brejohns
Medium member
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Posted - 26/05/2018 : 03:52:17
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| Thank you lyndal40. I did find this information eventually too. The ages are a bit mixed up but they match church records for names just not the correct birth dates. I only found 2 items that may be related to Bertha Maria Andersen's death. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/52928150/bertha-m-anderson shows a Bertha M Anderson buried at Dell Lutheran Cemetery in Faribault County MN but the birth date and death date are unknown. Bertha's middle name was Maria. The second item is found at https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FDZT-126. FamilySearch had only listed the last name of Anderson and no gender but a death date of July 1871 at Red Wing, Goodhue, MN. Red Wing is where they were going in 1870 according to the records. I believe jkmarler said that state records for MN were not complete for the dates I was checking 1870-1873 and I would have better luck with county records. I'm not sure there is any additional information on the microfilm?? |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 27/05/2018 : 00:27:35
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Your second link didn't work for me. Familysearch web browser addresses only work on the actual images. For the text the address that works is in the description paragraphs below the transcription.
Here is an Edward Mathison age 8 in the 1875 census for Rice county, might this be their son?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-62GS-6N4?i=13&cc=1503053
Here is a Mathias Anderson b abt 1837 in Norway in Rice county in 1875:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKNR-43G
Dell Lutheran church was started in 1861, so it seems likely there would be pastoral records for it somewhere. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 27/05/2018 : 12:55:23
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A large number of records at familysearch have been digitized and are browseable but are not yet searchable. Here is the online version of the original Goodhue county death index 1870-1908 starting with "A":
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-95V7-F1K?i=1&wc=36TN-N36%3A1583720502%2C1583720805&cc=2185953
The first volume of the actual records is also available in this fashion.
Here are all the Minnesota county death records available in this way:
Anoka
Becker
Blue Earth
Brown
Carver
Cottonwood
Dodge
Faribault
Fillmore
Freeborn
Goodhue
Hennepin
Houston
Kanabec
Le Sueur
Lincoln
Lyon
Martin
Mower
Nicollet
Nobles
Olmsted
Ramsey
Rice
Rock
Sibley
Stearns
Steele
Wabasha
Wadena
Waseca
Washington
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brejohns
Medium member
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176 Posts |
Posted - 29/05/2018 : 21:36:55
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Your second link didn't work for me. Familysearch web browser addresses only work on the actual images. For the text the address that works is in the description paragraphs below the transcription.
Here is an Edward Mathison age 8 in the 1875 census for Rice county, might this be their son?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-62GS-6N4?i=13&cc=1503053
Here is a Mathias Anderson b abt 1837 in Norway in Rice county in 1875:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKNR-43G
Dell Lutheran church was started in 1861, so it seems likely there would be pastoral records for it somewhere.
This may be Edward as the age is correct, however this would be the first time he was listed as Edward Mathiason. Could he and his dad have been living with the family of Halvorsons? This may have happened if the mom Bertha had passed away earlier in 1871 (estimated). Mathias' birth records show he was born on 28 August 1844 in Tune municipality Norway making this Mathias in the census 7 years older.
I am waiting for the information from the bygdebok. He may have some information later this week.
I also found the browseable not searchable records for MN, but did not find records that matched exactly, however I have not checked all the counties. |
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brejohns
Medium member
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Posted - 30/05/2018 : 00:32:39
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| I did check what I thought was applicable counties, but did not find anything. I needed to check Grant and Becker counties but they were not listed/available. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 30/05/2018 : 20:03:15
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Not sure why you have an issue with Mathias. The Mathias Anderson found on Minge farm in 1865 was born in a place called Varthei probably Varteig.:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01037997007483
There are at least 4 Mathias Andersens in the 1865 census who were born in Tune about 1844 but none of them are on Minge.
Your Mathis #206
SAO, Tune prestekontor Kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0009: Parish register (official) no. 9, 1842-1846, p. 50
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060316020306
Parents are Anders Ellifsen and wife Marie Thostensdatter on sondre Skaug.
Still on Skaug in 1865:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037997007974
#19 Mathis Andersen age 27 and Berthe Marie Hansdatter age 22
SAO, Tune prestekontor Kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0014: Parish register (official) no. 14, 1864-1868, p. 187
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060315020197
This Mathis is born on Lund in Varteig. Here is a confirmation for him:
#36
SAO, Tune prestekontor Kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0011: Parish register (official) no. 11, 1852-1856, p. 126
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060316010130
His mother is Inger Amundsdatter and father Anders Eilertsen. There is an Inger Amundsdatter wife of Christian head of household also on Minge in 1865 for which Mathis is employed working for his father, meaning that his mother has married and that Christian is his stepfather.
My conclusion the Mathis Anderson b 28 Aug 1844 in Tune is not the correct fellow. Mathis on Minge in 1865 age is incorrect.
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brejohns
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Posted - 02/06/2018 : 01:56:30
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| OK - I'm a little confused about the 4 Mathias Andersens in the 1865 census and want to make sure I find the correct one. Your link for #19 Mathis Andersen age 27 and Berthe Marie Hansdatter age 22 is the correct pair I am looking for. Their first daughter Emelie is listed in the census. I thought this was the same Mathias for the birth link under Mathis #206. However, you're saying these are 2 different persons. I only know that Mathias' father is Anders and I have no information on his mother. You've listed below the confirmation in 1853 of Mathias but not any birth records - correct? I need to search the parish records in Varteig with father Anders Eilertsen and mother Inger Amundsdatter. Is this correct. Or did I miss something? |
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brejohns
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Posted - 02/06/2018 : 02:40:50
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Is this the correct Mathis?
SAO, Askim prestekontor Kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0004: Parish register (official) no. 4, 1817-1846, p. 182-183
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061019030185
Is his birth date 10 or 11 of December in 1836 or 1837 or 1833? This book appears to list males and females on separate pages. But the years are not always listed on the pages. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2018 : 07:47:01
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Originally posted by brejohns
Is this the correct Mathis?
SAO, Askim prestekontor Kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0004: Parish register (official) no. 4, 1817-1846, p. 182-183
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061019030185
Is his birth date 10 or 11 of December in 1836 or 1837 or 1833? This book appears to list males and females on separate pages. But the years are not always listed on the pages.
Askim is not Varteig, so not this place and the parents names are not Anders Eilertsen and Inger Amundsdatter so not your fellow. Varteig is a sub parish of Tune. |
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brejohns
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Posted - 03/06/2018 : 22:08:34
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| OK - I will keep digging for a birth date in 1836 or 1837 born in Varthei. or Varteig. I understand Varteig was part of the Tune parishy until 1860. I do want to find the correct birth date. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9216 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2018 : 23:11:10
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What about this guy
Mathis Andersen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Mathis Andersen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 11 mar 1837
Baptism Date: 19 mar 1837
Baptism Place: Tune, Ostfold, Norway
Father: Anders Ejlertsen
Mother: Inger Ammundsdr
FHL Film Number: 126046
Reference ID: 2:1SKHH3P
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brejohns
Medium member
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176 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2018 : 02:59:34
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quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40
What about this guy
Mathis Andersen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Mathis Andersen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 11 mar 1837
Baptism Date: 19 mar 1837
Baptism Place: Tune, Ostfold, Norway
Father: Anders Ejlertsen
Mother: Inger Ammundsdr
FHL Film Number: 126046
Reference ID: 2:1SKHH3P
#35
Yes - this is the correct Mathias I believe. Same mother listed in the 1865 census but a step dad listed in 1865. |
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brejohns
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brejohns
Medium member
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Posted - 04/06/2018 : 03:12:08
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Here is the wife Berthe Marie Hansdatter.
SAO, Tune prestekontor Kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0009: Parish register (official) no. 9, 1842-1846, p. 17
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060316020272
I also have birth records for the 3 children born in Norway.
Emilie Caroline 2 Aug 1865
Edvard 4 March 1867
Julie (or Julia) Marie 27 October 1869
Believe it or not I had more trouble locating the children born in MN. |
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Ole Paul Arnesen Haugen
