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kristinemathiason
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 Posted - 05/12/2017 : 17:15:13
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All I ever heard is that they were boarders. She is in a photo with Nellie and the kids. They are lined up in front of the house and she is up on the porch. I tried to attach it just for fun, but can't here. I'll try again.
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Marriage of son Peter Michael Mathiason:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XJXL-5NR
Maybe the son Peter Michael Mathiason who is in Palo Alto county, the same county Julius August Mathiason ended up?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XV8V-N5W
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/12/2017 : 18:10:08
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Faddernes for some of the baptisms of Michael's & Pernille's children:
Lorensi Amanda: Ole H. Espe, Ole S Tang, Anna L Tang, Aage Johnsen
Karl Ludvig: Jacob O Opheim, Anne (or Arne) O Opheim, Kristina A Opheim, Berit Pedersdtr Baukenes
Anne Marie: Lars Pederson, Mari Engleson, Bear Opheim, Randine Rian
Peder Michael: Knut Vinsand, Kari O Vinsand, Christ J. Lund, M.C. Lund
Hanna Mathilda: Jacob Orsland and his wife, Helge Wilson? and his wife
Nelle Alise: Lars O Maage, Margretha Maage, Osmund Riveland, Inge Riveland, Emilie Mathiason
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/12/2017 : 21:08:44
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J.O. Opheim origins from Odda. K.Vinsand origins from Voss. Christ(ian) Lund origins from Kvinnherad. Maage family origins from Ullensvang. O.H.Espe origins from Ullensvang.
I should remember about the Tangs -- but somehow don't.
Thor and Norway township are an area where I have done a HUGE amount of research in past years. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 05/12/2017 : 23:41:16
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I think this has to be Pernille in the 1865 Norwegian Census
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kristinemathiason
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Posted - 06/12/2017 : 00:00:28
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Everything lines up.
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Originally posted by lyndal40
I think this has to be Pernille in the 1865 Norwegian Census
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AntonH
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Posted - 06/12/2017 : 01:37:05
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I think this is Pernille emigrating from Trondheim in 1869. Does not seem to be traveling with Michael. And is using her farm name of Dokmo (spelled here as Dakmo)
Emigration
Her half-brother Hans Svendsen and a traveling companion Peder Hansen leftTrondheim in 1867. Both Hans and Peder are found in the 1870 US Census in Badger, Webster, Iowa. In that same household is a Mike Matison, a likely candidate for the husband of Pernille.
Thus it is likely that Pernille met Michael Mathisen in Iowa and not in Norway.
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jkmarler
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/12/2017 : 02:41:30
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Originally posted by Hopkins
J.O. Opheim origins from Odda. K.Vinsand origins from Voss. Christ(ian) Lund origins from Kvinnherad. Maage family origins from Ullensvang. O.H.Espe origins from Ullensvang.
I should remember about the Tangs -- but somehow don't.
Thor and Norway township are an area where I have done a HUGE amount of research in past years.
Indeed, they appear to be long-time friends.
M.C. Lund is probably Christ's wife Martha and whose maiden name is given as "Riveland" in the marriage records of a couple of their children. |
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kristinemathiason
Junior member
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Posted - 06/12/2017 : 04:08:47
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This very interesting and different from I've been told by my older cousins. It further opens up the possibilities of where Michael was from. I must have missed something - what is the comment, 'They must have been friends for quite some time,' in reference to? I'll go back to see what I missed.
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Originally posted by lyndal40
I think this is Pernille emigrating from Trondheim in 1869. Does not seem to be traveling with Michael. And is using her farm name of Dokmo (spelled here as Dakmo)
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kristinemathiason
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Posted - 06/12/2017 : 04:11:04
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OK, now I understand the comment about long-time friends.
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Originally posted by jkmarler
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Originally posted by Hopkins
J.O. Opheim origins from Odda. K.Vinsand origins from Voss. Christ(ian) Lund origins from Kvinnherad. Maage family origins from Ullensvang. O.H.Espe origins from Ullensvang.
I should remember about the Tangs -- but somehow don't.
Thor and Norway township are an area where I have done a HUGE amount of research in past years.
Indeed, they appear to be long-time friends.
M.C. Lund is probably Christ's wife Martha and whose maiden name is given as "Riveland" in the marriage records of a couple of their children.
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kristinemathiason
Junior member
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Posted - 06/12/2017 : 04:19:30
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Congratulations of putting the puzzle pieces together!
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Originally posted by lyndal40
I think this is Pernille emigrating from Trondheim in 1869. Does not seem to be traveling with Michael. And is using her farm name of Dokmo (spelled here as Dakmo)
Emigration
Her half-brother Hans Svendsen and a traveling companion Peder Hansen leftTrondheim in 1867. Both Hans and Peder are found in the 1870 US Census in Badger, Webster, Iowa. In that same household is a Mike Matison, a likely candidate for the husband of Pernille.
Thus it is likely that Pernille met Michael Mathisen in Iowa and not in Norway.
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AntonH
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Posted - 07/12/2017 : 02:39:13
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There are very few men born between 1840 and 1850 in Norway in the 1865 Census with the name Michael Mathiasen. I have eliminated most of them. However here is one I found in Nord-Trøndelag that I have not been able to eliminate.
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This might be his baptism record. He is born out of wedlock. His father is Mathias Michelsen and his mother is Paulline Pedersdatter. I do see what looks to be a x or cross by his name which usual signifies that he died. That would be a problem of course. Also there are some letters and writing that I am not clear as to what they mean.
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Still alive for confirmation in 1861
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At age 18 in ? he is recorded leaving? Second record right hand page. A lot of writing some of which is difficult to read. Maybe a look by someone else would clarify where he is he coming from, where is he going and when?
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/12/2017 : 03:45:00
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Not many good fits for a person leaving Trondheim. The best fit is one Jackie found several pages back. At first glance I was not interested since the destination seemed to be Portland, Another issue would be the middle name is Monsbak not Magnus but the age is right. But after looking quite hard i did not find any other candidates.
Link to Jackie's find
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/12/2017 : 12:45:37
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Originally posted by lyndal40
At age 18 in ? he is recorded leaving? Second record right hand page. A lot of writing some of which is difficult to read. Maybe a look by someone else would clarify where he is he coming from, where is he going and when?
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#72 u (ungkarl) Mikal Magn. Mathisen Røkke _ _ _ _ f 15 7 (15 July) 1846, i 29 / 9 (29 Sept) 1861 moving to/from Frosten for 2 years |
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jkmarler
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Need help with info for great-grandparents
