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bmcnallie
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 Posted - 25/01/2018 : 15:36:01
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Hello.
You helped me so much with information on Thorsten Pederson and Lizabet Torrisdatter that I thought maybe you could help with this.
I am trying to find out what Children Anders Andersen (1753-1801--Tyskeberget,Asnes, Hedmark) and (1750-1812 Asnes, Hedmark) produced. I have Daniel Andersen (1788-1856) and Tomas maybe Tommes Andersen (1783-1830).
Also, I have that Daniel Andersen married Guri Andersdatter and I have 3 children listed as Oliane Danielsdatter 1828, Marte 1809, Halvor 1831. There is a huge gap between Marte and the other two that there must be more.
Thank you for any help you can give.
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AntonH
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Posted - 25/01/2018 : 17:09:27
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Maybe these two
Anne Danielsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Anne Danielsen
[Anne Andersen]
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 16 mai 1819 (16 May 1819)
Baptism Place: , Hof, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Daniel Andersen
Mother: Guri Andersd
FHL Film Number: 124288
#30
Dorthe Danielsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Dorthe Danielsen
[Dorthe Andersen]
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 3 jun 1821
Baptism Place: , Hof, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Daniel Andersen
Mother: Guri Andersd
FHL Film Number: 124288
#62
And maybe these two earlier
Kari Danielsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Kari Danielsen
[Kari Andersen]
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 25 jan 1807
Baptism Place: Hof, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Daniel Andersen
Mother: Guri Andersd
FHL Film Number: 124288
Link
Left hand page, a little hard to find, look up from bottom of page, first underlined entry.
Marte Danielsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Marte Danielsen
[Marte Andersen]
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 11 feb 1809
Baptism Place: , Hof, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Daniel Andersen
Mother: Guri Andersd
FHL Film Number: 124288
Last entry right page
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Edited by - AntonH on 27/01/2018 01:34:31 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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9216 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2018 : 23:20:27
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A few more possibilities
Karen Danielsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Karen Danielsen
[Karen Andersen]
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 10 sep 1815
Baptism Place: , Hof, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Daniel Andersen
Mother: Guri Andersd
FHL Film Number: 124288
Right hand page last entry
Link
Anders Danil
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Anders Danil
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 12 jan 1818
Baptism Date: 1 mar 1818
Baptism Place: , Hof, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Danil Andersen
Mother: Guri Andersd
FHL Film Number: 124288
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Name: Hellene Danielsdatter
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 2 aug 1825
Baptism Date: 28 aug 1825
Baptism Place: Hof, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Daniel Anderssen
Mother: Goro Andersdr
FHL Film Number: 124289
Reference ID: 2:1H391C2
#144
Gunild Danilsdatter
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Gunild Danilsdatter
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 2 sep 1828
Baptism Date: 26 okt 1828 (26 Oct 1828)
Baptism Place: Hof, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Danil Gudersen (Probably a mistranscription)
Mother: Guri Andersdr
FHL Film Number: 124289
Reference ID: 2:1H39X83
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Edited by - AntonH on 27/01/2018 01:51:41 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 25/01/2018 : 23:58:01
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The origin of Anders Andersen Vetelainen -Tysketorpet - Tyskeberget is Finnish.
The family link
it was a large immigration to this area called Finnskogen (Forest of the Finns) from Finland in the 1500 and 1600
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Edited by - Kåarto on 26/01/2018 00:03:27 |
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bmcnallie
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 00:06:00
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Thank you. All of these look like good candidates.
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AntonH
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 00:22:14
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I noticed that the baptism record for Halvor gives his father as Daniel Danielsen. Do you think that this is an error?
Halvor Danilsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Halvor Danilsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 11 mai 1831 (11 May 1831)
Baptism Date: 19 jun 1831
Baptism Place: Hof, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Danil Danilsen
Mother: Guri Andersdr
FHL Film Number: 124289
Reference ID: 2:1H3BMXS
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AntonH
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 00:27:14
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quote:
I have Daniel Andersen (1788-1856)
Are you sure about this birth date.
This is the record I find, it also matches the family tree posted by Kåre.
Daniel Andersen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Daniel Andersen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 12 apr 1778
Baptism Place: , Hof, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Anders Andersen
Mother: Lisken Danielsd
FHL Film Number: 124288
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AntonH
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 00:34:49
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Here are the other children that Ancestry.com has. You can also use a list from the Tree that Kåre has posted.
Halvor Andersen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Halvor Andersen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 26 feb 1775
Baptism Place: , Hof, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Anders Andersen
Mother: Lisken Danielsd
FHL Film Number: 124288
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Name: Daniel Andersen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 12 apr 1778
Baptism Place: , Hof, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Anders Andersen
Mother: Lisken Danielsd
FHL Film Number: 124288
Middle of the right hand page
Link
Name: Kari Andersen
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 1 apr 1781
Baptism Place: Hof, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Anders Andersen
Mother: Lispet Danielsd
FHL Film Number: 124288
Middle of right hand page
Link
Tommes Andersen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Tommes Andersen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 2 mai 1784 (2 May 1784)
Baptism Place: , Hof, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Anders Andersen
Mother: Lisken Danielsd
FHL Film Number: 124288
Left page middle
Link
Anne Andersen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Anne Andersen
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 26 aug 1787
Baptism Place: , Hof, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Anders Andersen
Mother: Lisken Danielsd
FHL Film Number: 124288
Right page middle
Link
Anders Andersen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Anders Andersen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 11 des 1791 (11 Dec 1791)
Baptism Place: , Hof, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Anders Andersen
Mother: Lisken Danielsd
FHL Film Number: 124288
First group right hand page
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Edited by - AntonH on 27/01/2018 00:40:43 |
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bmcnallie
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 01:08:36
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You are right Lyndal...Daniel Andersen is 1788. Thanks for the other Andersen children. I am trying to link any of the above listed people with THorsten Pedersen/Elizabet Torrisdatter OR Karen Mortensdatter (mother of my husbands greatgrandfather, Ole Gundersen-1858). Ole's father has not been determined. However, I did discover that the husband of Karen Mortensdatter --Kristian Henriksen--(stepfather of Ole Gunderson) FIRST married the above named Marte Danielsdatter who died in 1848. But that does not blood related to our Ole. My husband has connected by DNA to Torsten Mikkelsen/Inger Pedersdatter OR Tommes Andersen/Marte Torstensdatter. Trying to figure out which one.
Well, I will keep on looking.
Thanks for your help.
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bmcnallie
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 15:26:45
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Lyndal...you said "Here are the other children that Ancestry.com has. You can also use a list from the Tree that Kåre has posted." Where do I find a Tree that was posted.l
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AntonH
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Posted - 26/01/2018 : 17:12:44
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Click on this link provided by Kåre.
It is a tree in My Heritage which may be a subscription site but you can use a few parts of it without subscribing.
Link
You can look at quite a bit of the site from the Link that Kåre posted and I copied but sooner or later you get this.
"Requesting membership in another family site is available to Premium or PremiumPlus members of MyHeritage only"
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Kåarto
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Posted - 27/01/2018 : 00:16:57
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Todays Tyskeberget Finnetorp is a Finnish Forest museum and consists og13 houses build on the same place as the original ones and belongs to Åsnes Finnskog Historian Association, Åsnes Link
Finnetorp means Finnish farm
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Edited by - Kåarto on 27/01/2018 00:24:19 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 27/01/2018 : 00:27:57
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Here is a cheat sheet I put together from the Online Family Tree that Kåre posted. The # symbol means I have found the original record and you can find a link to it above. The $ sign means that I also found the name in the Online Family Tree.
Anders and Lisken Family
Halvor 1775 # $
Helene 1777 $ Have not found
Daniel 1778 # $
Kari 1781 # $
Tommes 1784 # $
Anne 1787 # $
Anders 1791 # $
Daniel and Guri Family Tree
Kari 1807 # $
Marta 1809 # $
Olia 1813 $ Have not found
Karen 1815 # $
Anders 1818 # $
Anne 1819 # $
Dorthe 1821 # $
Helene Aug 2 1825 # $
Gunhild Sep 2 1828 # $ Possible that Gunhild became Oliane?
Oliane Sep 2 1828 $ Have not found, did find a confirmation 1843 at 15 years old.
#4
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AntonH
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Posted - 27/01/2018 : 02:20:26
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In the online Family Tree there are three children listed that I have been unable to find in the original records.
One is the child named Oliana supposedly born Sept 2, 1828. That would make her a twin of Gunhild also listed as having been born Sept 2, 1828. I have found Gunhild and she is listed above. I did find Oliana Danielsdatter in the 1865 Census and she is married to Bernt Berndsen as is stated in the tree.
1865
Further digging has me convinced that Gunhild probably used the name Oliana later in her youth and can be found under Oliana for her confirmation, see later post
It is always necessary to be careful when using online family trees. It is possible that the My Heritage family tree and/or the Geni.com have mixed two families together and that is why I cannot find some of the children in the Digitalakivet records. Here is a different tree which needs exploring.
Geni.com
Anders Andersen and Lisbet Danielsdatter in 1801 Census, Scroll down to number 58 to see the whole family.
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AntonH
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Posted - 27/01/2018 : 23:11:06
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The Geni.com Daniel Andersen is shown married to a Hellene Simendatter. Looking at the original records this Daniel Andersen does not seem to be associated with Tysketorpet - Tyskeberget so the Geni.com tree could very well be incorrect in assigning the father of this Daniel Andersen to Anders Andersen Veteläinen and Lisbet (Lisket) Danielsdatter.
This discussion seems to confirm that concllusion.
Disnorge
Daniel Andersen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Daniel Andersen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 16 okt 1803 (16 Oct 1803)
Marriage Place: Hof,Hedmark,Norway
Spouse: Hellene Simonsd
FHL Film Number: 124288
Number 2 in marriages left hand page
Link
He is likely this one in the 1801 Census
1801
And found on right hand page second entry
Link
It seems likely that there were two Daniel Andersen living at about the same time in Hof, Hedmark married to two different women. Here are two children form the marriage e of Daniel and Hellene.
Anders Danielsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Anders Danielsen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 5 mai 1805 (5 May 1805)
Baptism Place: , Hof, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Daniel Andersen
Mother: Helene Simensd
FHL Film Number: 124288
Right hand page near bottom
Link
Marthe Danielsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Marthe Danielsen
[Marthe Andersen]
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 13 mar 1808
Baptism Place: , Hof, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Daniel Andersen
Mother: Helene Simensd
FHL Film Number: 124288
Middle of right hand page
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Edited by - AntonH on 04/02/2018 18:50:08 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 27/01/2018 : 23:59:40
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The Daniel Andersen that I think is connected to the Tysketorpet - Tyskeberget farm married Guro Andersdatter in 1805.
Middle right hand page
Link
Farm for Guri is probably Posaasen
This is likely her baptism record
Name: Guri Andersen
[Guri Olsen]
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 10 apr 1785
Baptism Place: , Hof, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Anders Olsen
Mother: Marte Kieldsd
FHL Film Number: 124288
Number 3 left hand page
Link
1801
Family in Gein.com
Geni.com
The existence of two Daniel Andersen in the same place Hof at the same time is going to complicate your understanding and make take some time and effort to sort out. |
Edited by - AntonH on 02/02/2018 22:56:54 |
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