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TomHammer
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USA
101 Posts

Posted - 14/02/2018 :  22:21:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm looking for the Parish records that show the DOB and their parents.

Peder Kristiansen (b. 1829 in Våler, Hedmark, Norway)
Hellene Ulrikke Halvorsdatter (b. 1828 in Åsnes, Hedmark, Norway)

This couple was married 7 April 1854 in Våler, Hedmark, Norway and their fathers are listed as Christian Einersen and Halvor Gustavsen:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWDK-FHC?from=lynx1&treeref=KZ1R-2GT

Thanks, Tom

jwiborg
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Norway
4961 Posts

Posted - 14/02/2018 :  22:57:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Helene Ulrikke's parents are Halvor Gustafsen (1801-) and Anne Marie Ulrichsen (1777-1834). Anne Marie was from Kongshaug, and was previousy married to Halvor Knudsen Røsen (1771-1819), whom she had 6 children with.
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TomHammer
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USA
101 Posts

Posted - 14/02/2018 :  23:29:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Could this be the record? Everything looks right, except the mother's name is Anne Maria Arnesdr, not Ulrichsen.

Name: Helene Uldrikke Halvorsdr
Name Note:
Titles and Terms:
Gender: Female
Age:
Race:
Birth Date: 15 Oct 1828
Birthplace:
Christening Date: 09 Nov 1828
Christening Place: HOF, HEDMARK, NORWAY
Christening Age:
Death Date:
Father's Name: Halvor Gustavsen
Father's Titles and Terms:
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Anne Maria Arnesdr
Mother's Titles and Terms:
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Paternal Grandfather's Name:
Paternal Grandmother's Name:
Maternal Grandfather's Name:
Maternal Grandmother's Name:
Note:
Reference ID: 2:1H39XNK
System Origin: Norway-VR
GS Film Number: 124289
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C42340-3

Citing this Record:
"Norway Baptisms, 1634-1927," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N4GY-PQY : 10 February 2018), Halvor Gustavsen in entry for Helene Uldrikke Halvorsdr, 15 Oct 1828; citing ; FHL microfilm 124,289.
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TomHammer
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101 Posts

Posted - 14/02/2018 :  23:33:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably is. Here is the marriage record and her father's name is Arne Uldriksen, which is close to Ulrichsen:
Name: Halvor Gustavsen
Birth Date: 1801
Birthplace:
Age: 27
Spouse's Name: Maria Arnesdr
Spouse's Birth Date: 1779
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age: 49
Event Date: 04 Jul 1828
Event Place: Hof, Hedmark, Norway
Father's Name: Gustav Gustavsen
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: Arne Uldriksen
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M42340-3
System Origin: Norway-VR
GS Film number: 124289
Reference ID: 2:Z38R4V

Citing this Record:
"Norway Marriages, 1660-1926," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NW9B-B1C : 10 February 2018), Halvor Gustavsen and Maria Arnesdr, 04 Jul 1828; citing Hof, Hedmark, Norway; FHL microfilm 124,289.
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TomHammer
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USA
101 Posts

Posted - 19/02/2018 :  15:39:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
jwiborg, were the 6 children's names Berte, Arne, Karen, Anton, Gunder, and Karenius?

Tom

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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran

Norway
4961 Posts

Posted - 19/02/2018 :  19:15:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TomHammer

jwiborg, were the 6 children's names Berte, Arne, Karen, Anton, Gunder, and Karenius?

Tom
Close!
Åsnesboka 1 list the following 6 children:

Knut 1803
Arne 1805
Karelius 1807
Anton 1813
Berte - married to Halvor Sørensen Lund
Karen
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TomHammer
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USA
101 Posts

Posted - 19/02/2018 :  20:47:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hmmm...now I'm a little confused. I'm looking at this Community Tree: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:3ZBD-VVK and it looks like Helene Ulrikke's father/mother is Halvor Gustafson and Karen (the daughter of Halvor Knudsen and Ann Marie).

Is it possible for you to send a link to what you see?

Tom
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jwiborg
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Norway
4961 Posts

Posted - 19/02/2018 :  21:04:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I understand your confusion, but I think the author of the Community Tree got it wrong.
It says:
- Enken giftet seg med Halvor Gustafsen, f.1801, og hadde ett barn med han, Helene Ulrikke f. 1828.
- The widow married Halvor Gustafsen, b.1801, and had one child with him, Helene Ulrikke b. 1828.
The widow this sentence refer to, is Anne Marie (Arnesdatter) Ulrichsen, who became a widow in 1819 when her husband Halvor Knudsen Røsen died.


Edited by - jwiborg on 19/02/2018 21:10:18
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TomHammer
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USA
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Posted - 19/02/2018 :  21:14:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I suspected so. Thanks for the clarification. Tom
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TomHammer
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USA
101 Posts

Posted - 19/02/2018 :  22:36:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found this birth record for a Peder Christiansen - record 200. Looks like 22 October 1829, but the father doesn't look right. A marriage records showed it is Christian Einersen and I don't know what his mother's name is.

Can anyone read the birth record?
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/9162/104?indexing=

Thanks, Tom

Edited by - TomHammer on 19/02/2018 22:59:22
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 19/02/2018 :  23:38:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is how Ancestry transcribed the record

Peder Christiansen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Peder Christiansen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 22 sep 1829
Baptism Date: 27 sep 1829
Baptism Place: Hof, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Christian Pedersen
Mother: Berte Gulbrandsdr
FHL Film Number: 124289
Reference ID: 2:1H3B68F
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 19/02/2018 :  23:46:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe it is this one?

Peder Christiansen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Peder Christiansen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 2 jul 1830
Baptism Date: 1 aug 1830
Baptism Place: Hof, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Christian Einersen
Mother: Anne Olsdr
FHL Film Number: 124289
Reference ID: 2:1H3BDP5

#138

Edited by - AntonH on 19/02/2018 23:51:50
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jwiborg
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Norway
4961 Posts

Posted - 19/02/2018 :  23:46:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Farmname = Kvesæt
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TomHammer
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USA
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Posted - 20/02/2018 :  16:29:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The second one seems more likely. Here is the link to his gravesite marker: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/92978891/peter-hammer. Since there is no picture of the marker, it's possible he may have actually been born in 1830 and his birth year was estimated. I'll keep searching for definite proof.
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AntonH
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Posted - 20/02/2018 :  17:49:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the family in the 1865 Norwegian Census with a birth year of 1830 listed for Peder Christiansen.

1865
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jwiborg
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Norway
4961 Posts

Posted - 20/02/2018 :  19:59:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Re: Peder born 1830:

Parents are not married.
Father Christian lives on farm Sjøbrænden, while mother Anne lives on Snarvold.
Modern spelling of these two farms are Sjøbrenna and Snarhol
They are neighboring farms in Braskereidfoss district of Våler, Hedmark.
Census-1865 shows Peder & Helene on Smedstad, which is in the same area.

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