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tkoller
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Norway
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 Posted - 04/03/2018 : 16:53:24
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Mads Christian Smith Jorstad was born March 8, 1879 in Drammen Norway. He married Anna Kathinka Gulhaugen and settled in Oslo. They got 3 children together the last in September 1903.
Mads Announces New York May 16th 1903 and Seeks Nationals 16 August 1905.
At the 1920 census in New York, I find him as Mathew Smith married to Caterine Smith and have a 15-year-old daughter. She is also called Catherine.
At the 1930 census, they live in the same place, but their daughter has moved.
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/6224/4638815_00491?pid=40379560&treeid=&personid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=dkl46&_phstart=successSource
no 69 and 70 ..
What happened to the daughter and when died Mathew (Mads)
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 04/03/2018 : 17:01:00
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A candidate, not going to be easy with such a common name.
Catherine A Smith
in the 1940 United States Federal Census
Name: Catherine A Smith
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1905
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: New York
Marital Status: Single
Home in 1940: New York, Kings, New York
Map of Home in 1940: View Map
Street: Clinton Avenue
House Number: 232
Inferred Residence in 1935: New York, Kings, New York
Residence in 1935: Same Place
Sheet Number: 1A
Institution: St Josephs College 1-22
Attended School or College: Yes
Highest Grade Completed: College, 4th year
Income: 0
Income Other Sources: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Catherine A Smith 35
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Edited by - AntonH on 05/03/2018 02:22:14 |
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tkoller
Medium member
Norway
89 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2018 : 17:08:56
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I have gone through the school's yearbook for 1940 without finding her.
I found this in Family Search
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Mads Or Matthew Smith
New York, New York City Municipal Deaths
Name Mads Or Matthew Smith
Event Type Death
Event Date 13 Mar 1934
Event Place Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States
Address 1322 Sterling Place
Gender Male
Age 54
Marital Status Married
Race White
Occupation Painter
Birth Year (Estimated) 1880
Birthplace Norway
Burial Date 16 Mar 1934
Cemetery Holy Cross Cem.
Father's Name Christian Smith
Father's Birthplace Norway
Mother's Name Petre Berg
Mother's Birthplace Norway
Spouse's Name Catherine Smith |
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Edited by - tkoller on 04/03/2018 17:12:32 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9216 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2018 : 17:19:08
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Here is a similar reference, the death date is off by 3 days
Matthew Smith
in the U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Matthew Smith
Death Date: 16 Mar 1934
Cemetery: Holy Cross Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Brooklyn, Kings County (Brooklyn), New York, United States of America
Has Bio?: N |
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tkoller
Medium member
Norway
89 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2018 : 17:26:22
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FS says buriel date is 16th and death is 13th..
The other says death is 16th
So one of them has done a trancription error. |
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tkoller
Medium member
Norway
89 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2018 : 17:46:22
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I posted a link, dicocerd it was not relevant. Did not manage to delite the message.
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Edited by - tkoller on 04/03/2018 19:01:20 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9216 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2018 : 19:03:34
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Another possible link, based on complete name and the fact that the SS Number was issued in New York
Probably not her. Found several Family Trees that show her born in Connecticut and her parents as William Smith and Catherine Smith.
Catherine A. Smith
in the U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014
Name: Catherine A. Smith
SSN: 066-07-8790
Last Residence:
01852 Lowell, Middlesex, Massachusetts, USA
BORN: 4 Feb 1906
Died: 24 Feb 1998
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951) |
Edited by - AntonH on 04/03/2018 19:06:08 |
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tkoller
Medium member
Norway
89 Posts |
Posted - 04/03/2018 : 19:27:07
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Matthew's grave:
Holy Cross Cemetery
MATTHEW SMITH
Date of Interment: March 16, 1934
St. George
Unit: --- | Floor: --- | System: CEM
Section: GEOR | Row: 15 | Plot: 163 | Grave: --- |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2018 : 05:17:21
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Here is a New York marriage record found at the Italian Gen Group site only one between a Matthew J Smith and a woman named Catherine occurring between 1900 and 1907:
Last Name Given Name Month/Day Year CtfNum County
Walsh Catherine Apr 25 1907 195 Richmond |
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tkoller
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Norway
89 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2018 : 18:01:47
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I can't find Catherine on the same cemetary as Matthew. Can she have moved?
Catherine was born in Irland.
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Edited by - tkoller on 05/03/2018 21:33:26 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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tkoller
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Norway
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tkoller
Medium member
Norway
89 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2018 : 20:13:48
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| My bee. Do we have 2 Smith from Norway born the same year with occupation house paiter or is he living a dobble life? He did leave 2 shildren and a pragment wife in Norway tok a new name in US. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2018 : 20:59:20
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Smith would not be a common name to take up for a Norwegian. New York is so big that there could be, coincidentally, 2 Norwegians named Mathew (some combination or name spelling) Smith b about 1878-1889 who were both occupied as painters, but the odds on that are very long.
Re the daughter Catherine, she could have died between 1920 and 1930 or she could have moved away and lives elsewhere or she could have married. The 1930 census could tell a lot if it were possible to find a Catherine b. New York 1905-1907 living with another name whose father is recorded in the census as born Norway. That would be a very long and painful search and no guarantee.
Re Matthew if the sexton of the cemetery has kept proper records it might be possible to see who else is buried in the same plot as he. Catherine, the wife, might not have had a marker and so not appear in FAG.
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tkoller
Medium member
Norway
89 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2018 : 21:30:55
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| As yoy see on the top, Mads (Mathew) had Smith as middel name after his grandmother. Smith is't rear in Norway. Many came from Germeny in the 1700 and 1800 th century. |
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tkoller
Medium member
Norway
89 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2018 : 21:38:57
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From FS
Name: Mathew Smith
[Matheus Smith]
Age: 40
Birth Year: abt 1880
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1920: Brooklyn Assembly District 18, Kings, New York
Street: Brooklyn Ave
Residence Date: 1920
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1903
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Catherine Smith
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Native Tongue: Norwegian
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Painter
Industry: House
Employment Field: Wage or Salary
Home Owned or Rented: Rent
Naturalization Status: Papers Submitted
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Mathew Smith 40
Catherine Smith 34
Catherine Smith 15
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