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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 14/07/2018 : 18:07:20
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Setesdal is a region and thus has many parishes within it. At least five at present thus you would need to narrow down which parish has the church you are interested in. Bykle, Valle, Bygland, Iveland, and Evje og Hornnes are current parishes but the boundaries of the parishes has changed quite extensively through the years.
Setesdal
For example Evje and Hornnes has two churches
According to this list there are at least 12 churches in the area referred to as the Otredal prosti.
Churches
Depending on where in the Setesdal region you end up at, there is this Setesdalmuseum. The Facebook website has a easily accessed message box and they seem to be willing to answer question about the area.
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Edited by - AntonH on 14/07/2018 22:19:58 |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 14/07/2018 : 20:23:44
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Originally posted by maybellemn
Does anyone know if Sander Sanderson Roo born 1550 in Scotland had more sons than Sander Sanderson Roo II?
Acc to these family-tree's he had two more sons, Thomas and Johannes here and here and here |
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maybellemn
Junior member
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Posted - 15/07/2018 : 01:43:09
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| Thank you so much for the information! What a site! My great-grandparents were born in Valle, Setesdal, Norway and they were the 15th couple married 12/4/1848 in the old Austad Church but I understand that a new church had been built. I am trying to find out who my great grandfather Olav Grundeson Hegland born Dec 8, 1833 in Aust Sogn in Setesdal and died 4/25/1898 Sletten Township, Polk Co MN between Fosston MN and Winger, Mn dad and mom were - we have nothing in our records here. Also if he had any brothers and sisters. We have a guess but we just are not sure. |
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maybellemn
Junior member
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Posted - 15/07/2018 : 01:45:45
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| Forgot to mention that Olav Grundesson Hegland took the name of Grundyson after they settled here in Polk Co. So it was Olav Grundesson Hegland Grundyson. whew! |
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maybellemn
Junior member
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Posted - 15/07/2018 : 01:49:36
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| Also thanks for the setesdal museum - I don't have facebook but it looked like I could get some e mails after I put it in google. Thank you so much for this. I might have more questions for them too. You people are just the greatest!! |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9216 Posts |
Posted - 15/07/2018 : 02:28:12
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Perhaps this is your Olav listed as being baptized in Bygland ie Austad. His birth date is listed as Dec 8, 1833 in the original record. Click on #1 below. Record is on the left hand page
Ole Grunde (Grundesen)
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Ole Grunde (Grundesen)
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 12 jan 1834
Baptism Place: Bygland,Aust-Agder,Norway
Father: Grunde Olsen
Mother: Gunnild Grundesdr
FHL Film Number: 123514
#1
This is likely your family in the 1865 Norwegian Census. They are living on the farm øvre Hægland (probably what you know as Hegland).
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Edited by - AntonH on 15/07/2018 17:25:13 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 15/07/2018 : 02:43:30
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The parents of Ole (or Olav) were married in 1826 in Bygland. Original record number 16 below.
Grunde Olsen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Grunde Olsen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 9 nov 1826
Marriage Place: Bygland,Aust-Agder,Norway
Spouse: Gonild Grundesdr
FHL Film Number: 123514
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Based on the marriage record above this is likely the baptism record for Grunde Olsen
Grunde Olsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Grunde Olsen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 4 sep 1808
Baptism Place: Bygland,Aust-Agder,Norway
Father: Ole Grundesen
Mother: Daardi Gundersdr
FHL Film Number: 123512
The original record is a little messy but if you look at the right hand page number 30 you will see the names listed in the above record.
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Ole Grundersen married Daardi Gundersdatter in 1804.
Ole Grundesen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Ole Grundesen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 16 jun 1804
Marriage Place: Bygland,Aust-Agder,Norway
Spouse: Dordie Gunderdr
FHL Film Number: 123512
Again a little messy but look for June 16 on the right hand page and the name Ole Grundersen Hegland
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And this Ole Grundersen was baptized on September 24, 1781. The parish records have gotten very messy and the various sub-parishes for Bygland somewhat mixed together . But the third column from the left contains those for Austad for 1781. See number 6.
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And his father Grunde Olsen was baptized Feb 2, 1734. Father is Ole Grundersen no mother listed.
Grunde Olsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Grunde Olsen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 2 feb 1734
Baptism Place: Bygland,Aust-Agder,Norway
Father: Ole Grundesen
FHL Film Number: 123512
Original record is number 8 first column on the left page
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 15/07/2018 : 04:08:24
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they were the 15th couple married 12/4/1848 in the old Austad Church
Are you sure about that year, that seems to be a little early for a man born in 1833.
I wonder if this is not the marriage of Ole and Ingeborg. He was born in Bygland and she was born in Valle and they were married in 1858 in Valle.
Ole Grundesen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Ole Grundesen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 21 jan 1858
Marriage Place: Hylestad,Aust-Agder,Norway
Spouse: Ingeborg Guttormsdr
FHL Film Number: 123698
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Edited by - AntonH on 15/07/2018 04:15:48 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9216 Posts |
Posted - 15/07/2018 : 04:30:07
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This is probably the baptism of the wife of your Olav. Farm is Bø.
Ingeborg Guttormsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Ingeborg Guttormsen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 26 jan 1838
Baptism Date: 31 jan 1838
Baptism Place: Valle,Aust-Agder,Norway
Father: Guttorm Taralsen
Mother: Anne Gunlichsdr
FHL Film Number: 311248
The transcription on Ancestry.com has the wrong Baptism date. The correct dat is April 1, 1838, which you can see at number 23 below.
Birth date is correct however.
#23
The parents Guttorm Talaldsen and Anne Guliksdatter were married on March 21, 1821.
Guttorm Taralsen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Guttorm Taralsen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 21 mar 1821
Marriage Place: Valle,Aust-Agder,Norway
Spouse: Anne Gunlecsdr
FHL Film Number: 123697
Original record is number 2 on right hand page
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Edited by - AntonH on 16/07/2018 02:35:27 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9216 Posts |
Posted - 15/07/2018 : 18:02:41
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You should be able to take the ancestors of your Great grandparents back in time a long ways, back I suspect to the late 1500's.
Based on the information above this is likely the Olav (Ole) Gundersen born abt 1784 who married Dordi Gundersdatter in 1804 and who is the father of Grunde Olsen born in 1808. In this 1801 Census the father who is likely named Grunde Olavsen (Or Olesen or some variation) is no longer alive. His wife Birgit Liødsdatter is alive and also in the family is her father Liød Olsen and his wife Targier Olsdatter both age 60. They are living on the Hægeland (Hegland, spelling changes from time to time) farm. To further complicate our lives when we try to sort out our ancestors the family as was somewhat common in the time gave two sons the same name. So you will see in the census list another Ole Grundersen age 10. In the family one of them such as your ancestor will be called Ole Grundersen d.e. (d. e. is Norwegian for the elder) the other one would be d. y. (ie the younger).
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 15/07/2018 : 18:44:03
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The reason I went into some detail on the d. e. and d. y. is that is would seem that your Olav Grunderson Hegland has an older brother with the same name, thus making him an d.y. Here is what appears to be his older brother
Ole Grunde (Grundesen)
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Ole Grunde
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 23 sep 1827
Baptism Place: Bygland,Aust-Agder,Norway
Father: Grunde Olsen
Mother: Gunild Grundesdr
FHL Film Number: 123514
#23
In the 1865 Census this Ole was living on Oustad nordre, the farm name associated with most of the brothers. Also living there are his wife Gro Tellefsdatter and the father of the three sons Grunde Olsen born 1808.
1865
And likely a brother in between the two Ole's
Grunde GrundesenName: Grunde Grundesen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 15 mai 1831 (15 May 1831)
Baptism Place: Bygland,Aust-Agder,Norway
Father: Grunde Olsen
Mother: Gunnild Grundesdr
FHL Film Number: 123514
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
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Probably Grunde and some helpers living on another part of Oustad in the 1865 Census.
1865
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7765 Posts |
Posted - 15/07/2018 : 20:49:23
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Re the churches in Norway:
norske-kirkebygg.origo.no |
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maybellemn
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 16/07/2018 : 03:47:15
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| I went out to the cemetery and checked the birth and death dates of Olav "Ole" Grundesson Hegland later Grundyson and the dates were Dec 8, 1833 (Austa, Sogn, Setesdal) and died 4/25/1898 - Sletten Township, Polk Co., MN and YES I have an older brother - Olav "Ole" Grundesson Austad d.e. born 9/4/1827 and died 7/16/1868 in Austad, Bygland, AA, Norway AND another brother (?) Gunder Grundesson Austad born 5/11/1837 and died 12/26/1902 in Austad, Bygland, Aust-Agder, Norway and their parents listed as Grunde Olavson Austad 1809-1874 nordre Austad, Bygland, Aust-Agder, Setesdal Norway and their mother listed as Gunhild Grundesdottar Austad born1809 Heggland, Araksbo, Bygland and died 1/29/1859 in Sondre, Austad, Aust-Agder, Norway - am I on the right track? Are these correct for my ancestry? They say it is easy to get off on another track with the names of family members so familiar. |
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maybellemn
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 16/07/2018 : 04:21:28
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| lyndal40 - the 1865 Bygland census is my family! BUT the father's date of birth is 1828 and should be 1833 - Is this an error on their part? Also what is Tjenestepige? that is written next to Gunne Olsdatter born 1845 on that page. I have the information on them as I also knew many of them - my grandpa's brothers, sisters, mom and dad. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 16/07/2018 : 07:58:19
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| Tjenstepige means female employee or worker. |
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Borghild Jonsdatter Kvamshaugen 1/17/1851-10/17/19
