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PhilMyhre
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 Posted - 26/08/2018 : 07:00:11
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Originally posted by David Yaw
[quote]Originally posted by lyndal40
Helge A Myhre
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Helge A Myhre
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emily Myhre
Gender: Male
Where born: Norway
Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: All Souls
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 8
Piece: 66
Folio: 78
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Helge A Myhre 30
Emily Myhre 21
Emily M Myhre 10/12
In the 1871 UK census, Emily is shown as a widow, living in Islington wiith daughter Emily aged 10 and son Augustus aged 7 - consistent with her hasband dyinmg ca 1864.
Can't find any of them in the 1881 or later censuses
Thanks, yes that all looks good. Son 'Augustus" was my grandfather Hans August Myhre (later Charles August Myhre) who travelled to New Zealand aged 10 with his mother Emily and sister Emily aged 13, in 1874 aboard the 'Atrato' one of the early steamships. A 3 month plus voyage during which 33 children on board died.
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AntonH
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Posted - 26/08/2018 : 17:48:42
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Some further information that may be of interest on the family .
Here is another of the sons
Hans Bernt Olsen Myhre
1817–1863
BIRTH 8 FEB 1817 • Drammen, Buskerud, Norway
DEATH 31 MAR 1863 • Stavanger, Rogaland, Norway
Here is a marriage record for one of daughters of Ole Hansen Myhre.
Josepha Bernhardine Myhre
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926Name: Josepha Bernhardine Myhre
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 1 des 1844 (1 Dec 1844)
Marriage Place: Bragernes Drammen,Buskerud,Norway
Spouse: Peder Hansen
FHL Film Number: 123848
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Probably her death record as well.
Josefa Bernhardine Hansen
in the Norway, Select Burials, 1666-1927
Name: Josefa Bernhardine Hansen
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Widowed
Age: 67
Birth Date: 1824
Death Date: 22 des 1891 (22 Dec 1891)
Burial Date: 30 des 1891 (30 Dec 1891)
FHL Film Number: 1282681
Reference ID: B4 P168 E72
The family in 1865 Census in Stavanger.
1865
As you can see they had several children, including this one.
Johan Bernhard Pedersen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Johan Bernhard Pedersen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 17 jun 1859
Birth Place: Domkirken, Stavanger, Rogaland, Norway
Baptism Date: 10 jul 1859
Father: Peder Hansen
Mother: Josefa Bernhardine Myhre
FHL Film Number: 1282678
Reference ID: BK1 P207 CN99
Johan Bernhard was married in 1887
Johan Bernhard Hansen
in the Norway Marriages, 1600s-1800s
Name: Johan Bernhard Hansen
Age: 28 years
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 17 jun 1859
Marriage Date: 22 aug 1887
Marriage Place: Stavanger, Rogaland, Norway
Spouse: Marie Elisabeth Tonnessen
Spouse's Age: 25 years
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Birth Date: 14 jan 1862
Father: Peder Hansen
Spouse's Father: Hans Christian Tonnessen
They had several children including Peder Håkon Jarl Hansen who was living with his mother in the 1910 Census. Father died in 1902.
1910 Census
Peder Haakon Jarl Hansen died in 1986.
Peder H J Hansen
in the Norway, Find A Grave Index, 1800s-Current
Name: Peder H J Hansen
Birth Date: 24 Jun 1890
Death Date: 25 Jul 1986
Cemetery: Lagaard Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Stavanger, Stavanger kommune, Rogaland fylke, Norway
Has Bio?: N
Spouse: Sigrid J Hansen
There is some information on the family in a Geni Family Tree
Geni Tree
Josepa
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Edited by - AntonH on 27/08/2018 16:56:29 |
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jkmarler
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AntonH
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Posted - 26/08/2018 : 23:05:58
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Is there a way of finding the names of the daughter who emigrated to America and when/how and also two sons to England? We know of only one, Helge August Olsen Myhre as mentioned above.
Here for completeness are the names of the severn children of Ole Hansen Myhre
Children of Ole Hansen Myhre
Hans Bernt Feb 8, 1817 bap June 24, 1817
died in Stavanger March 31, 1863
Erik June 5, 1819 bap Oct 16, 1819
Carl Johan July 21, 1821 bap Nov 18, 1821
Olava Charlotte May 16, 1826 bap Sep 3, 1826]
Kristian Henrik Nov 3, 1828 bap Jan 4, 1829
Josefa Bernhardine Nov 3, 1828 bap Jan 4, 1829
Died in Stavanger Dec 22, 1891
Helge August Oct 4, 1831 bap May 12, 1833
Since there are only two girls in the list, and we know Josefa Bernhardine lived and died in Norway, if there was a daughter who eimgrated to America it would have to be Olava Charlotte. |
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PhilMyhre
Junior member
New Zealand
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Posted - 27/08/2018 : 01:26:59
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Originally posted by lyndal40
[quote]Is there a way of finding the names of the daughter who emigrated to America and when/how and also two sons to England? We know of only one, Helge August Olsen Myhre as mentioned above.
Here for completeness are the names of the severn children of Ole Hansen Myhre
Children of Ole Hansen Myhre
Hans Bernt Feb 8, 1817 bap June 24, 1817
died in Stavanger March 31, 1863
Erik June 5, 1819 bap Oct 16, 1819
Carl Johan July 21, 1821 bap Nov 18, 1821
Olava Charlotte May 16, 1826 bap Sep 3, 1826]
Kristian Henrik Nov 3, 1828 bap Jan 4, 1829
Josefa Bernhardine Nov 3, 1828 bap Jan 4, 1829
Died in Stavanger Dec 22, 1891
Helge August Oct 4, 1831 bap May 12, 1833
Since there are only two girls in the list, and we know Josefa Bernhardine lived and died in Norway, if there was a daughter who eimgrated to America it would have to be Olava Charlotte.
Thank you. None of our family have ever been aware of Erik or Carl, or Kristian's second christian name. That is amazing news. May I ask where you got those names from and how do we verify them? Very exciting.
The next task is to find out when and how and where to Olava travelled to the US. I believe I have located her husband's name and a child so I will re-check that information and share it.
The other son travelling to the UK is a mystery. Helge is confirmed as living in London, yet to confirm the date or ship he travelled on. Difficult to confirm the SS Courier reference so far.
My next dilemma is Helge's grandfather Hans Christensen Myhre, father of Ole Hansen Myhre married to Martha 2 nee' Glimstad. We understand Hans Christensen was born mid 1700's in Kongsberg at The Myhre Farm, Kongsberg. So far I have not had any success locating the farm, road/address etc I believe it is still there. Hans and Martha had two children, Ole and Ingeborg whom we have some good information on.
Thank you everyone for your assistance. This Forum has been so helpful as I have had some difficulty navigating this site and Arkivverket - partly due to my lack of Norwegian skills!
Regards,
Phil Myhre
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PhilMyhre
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AntonH
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Posted - 27/08/2018 : 02:23:06
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Thank you. None of our family have ever been aware of Erik or Carl, or Kristian's second christian name. That is amazing news. May I ask where you got those names from and how do we verify them? Very exciting.
All from Ancestry.com
Erik Olsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Erik Olsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 5 jun 1819
Baptism Date: 16 okt 1819 (16 Oct 1819)
Baptism Place: Bragernes Drammen,Buskerud,Norway
Father: Ole Hansen Myhre
Mother: Sara Maria Jacobsdr
FHL Film Number: 123847
And the original record
#70
Probably a marriage record from him as well
Erick Myhre
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Erick Myhre
Gender: Male
Age: 26
Birth Date: 1819
Marriage Date: 3 okt 1845 (3 Oct 1845)
Marriage Place: Stavanger, Rogaland, Norway
Father: Ole Hansen Myhre
Spouse: Johanne Margrethe Mauritzen Nordland
FHL Film Number: 307145
Reference ID: vol 15
One thing that is a little curious is the Geni.com Tree gives the father of Sara Maria as Holger Henrichsen Stoltenberg in the profile and in the about section of the profile for Ole Hansen Myhre the wife is listed as Sara Maria Jacobsdatter.
Ungkar Ole Hansen Myhre, hadde etternavnet sitt fra Myhra gård i Kongsbergs-området. Han ble døpt 6.november 1890 i Kongsberg. 26 år gammel, den 6.juli 1816 giftet han seg med <pige" Sara Marie Jacobsdatter i Tangen kirke. Begge var 26 år
Something is wrong here.
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AntonH
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Posted - 27/08/2018 : 02:42:02
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Carl Johan Olsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Carl Johan Olsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 21 jul 1821
Baptism Date: 18 nov 1821
Baptism Place: Bragernes Drammen,Buskerud,Norway
Father: Ole Hansen Myhre
Mother: Sara Marie Jacobsdr
FHL Film Number: 123847
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Kristian Henrik Olsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Kristian Henrik Olsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 3 nov 1828
Baptism Date: 4 jan 1829
Baptism Place: Bragernes Drammen,Buskerud,Norway
Father: Ole Myhre
Mother: Sara Mar. Stoltenberg
FHL Film Number: 123847
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AntonH
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Posted - 27/08/2018 : 02:54:24
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Some information on the marriage of Ole Hansen Myhre, as I am now curious as to who is the wife of Ole Hansen Myhre.
Ole Hansen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Ole Hansen
Gender: Male
Age: 26
Birth Date: 1790
Marriage Date: 6 jul 1816
Marriage Place: Tangen Drammen,Buskerud,Norway
Spouse: Sara Maria Jacobsdr
FHL Film Number: 127642
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PhilMyhre
Junior member
New Zealand
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Posted - 27/08/2018 : 03:49:33
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![]() ![]() quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40
[quote]Thank you. None of our family have ever been aware of Erik or Carl, or Kristian's second christian name. That is amazing news. May I ask where you got those names from and how do we verify them? Very exciting.
All from Ancestry.com
Erik Olsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Erik Olsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 5 jun 1819
Baptism Date: 16 okt 1819 (16 Oct 1819)
Baptism Place: Bragernes Drammen,Buskerud,Norway
Father: Ole Hansen Myhre
Mother: Sara Maria Jacobsdr
FHL Film Number: 123847
And the original record
#70
Probably a marriage record from him as well
Erick Myhre
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Erick Myhre
Gender: Male
Age: 26
Birth Date: 1819
Marriage Date: 3 okt 1845 (3 Oct 1845)
Marriage Place: Stavanger, Rogaland, Norway
Father: Ole Hansen Myhre
Spouse: Johanne Margrethe Mauritzen Nordland
FHL Film Number: 307145
Reference ID: vol 15
One thing that is a little curious is the Geni.com Tree gives the father of Sara Maria as Holger Henrichsen Stoltenberg in the profile and in the about section of the profile for Ole Hansen Myhre the wife is listed as Sara Maria Jacobsdatter.
Ungkar Ole Hansen Myhre, hadde etternavnet sitt fra Myhra gård i Kongsbergs-området. Han ble døpt 6.november 1890 i Kongsberg. 26 år gammel, den 6.juli 1816 giftet han seg med <pige" Sara Marie Jacobsdatter i Tangen kirke. Begge var 26 år
Something is wrong here.
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PhilMyhre
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Posted - 27/08/2018 : 04:18:00
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Originally posted by PhilMyhre
![]() ![]() [quote]Originally posted by lyndal40
[quote]Thank you. None of our family have ever been aware of Erik or Carl, or Kristian's second christian name. That is amazing news. May I ask where you got those names from and how do we verify them? Very exciting.
All from Ancestry.com
Erik Olsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Erik Olsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 5 jun 1819
Baptism Date: 16 okt 1819 (16 Oct 1819)
Baptism Place: Bragernes Drammen,Buskerud,Norway
Father: Ole Hansen Myhre
Mother: Sara Maria Jacobsdr
FHL Film Number: 123847
And the original record
#70
Probably a marriage record from him as well
Erick Myhre
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Erick Myhre
Gender: Male
Age: 26
Birth Date: 1819
Marriage Date: 3 okt 1845 (3 Oct 1845)
Marriage Place: Stavanger, Rogaland, Norway
Father: Ole Hansen Myhre
Spouse: Johanne Margrethe Mauritzen Nordland
FHL Film Number: 307145
Reference ID: vol 15
One thing that is a little curious is the Geni.com Tree gives the father of Sara Maria as Holger Henrichsen Stoltenberg in the profile and in the about section of the profile for Ole Hansen Myhre the wife is listed as Sara Maria Jacobsdatter.
Ungkar Ole Hansen Myhre, hadde etternavnet sitt fra Myhra gård i Kongsbergs-området. Han ble døpt 6.november 1890 i Kongsberg. 26 år gammel, den 6.juli 1816 giftet han seg med <pige" Sara Marie Jacobsdatter i Tangen kirke. Begge var 26 år
Something is wrong here.
Yes I have come across this before - I have an original certificate showing the names of Ole Hansen and Sara Marie Stoltenberg so am not sure? Can send to you if I can attach somehow. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 27/08/2018 : 04:27:17
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Yes I have come across this before - I have an original certificate showing the names of Ole Hansen and Sara Marie Stoltenberg so am not sure? Can send to you if I can attach somehow.
You have an original certificate of what? |
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jkmarler
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AntonH
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Posted - 27/08/2018 : 04:47:37
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Maybe your new Sara is the one whose marriage you posted above to a Paul Hyggen.
Name: Sara Mari T. Stoltenberg
Gender: Female
Age: 40
Birth Date: 1797
Marriage Date: 28 des 1837 (28 Dec 1837)
Marriage Place: , Vestby, Akershus, Norway
Father: Brede Stoltenberg
Spouse: Poul Hyggen
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And it appears that Helge's mother married again or at least something that should be checked out:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NW92-4KP
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jkmarler
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Posted - 27/08/2018 : 04:51:21
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