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jkmarler
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Posted - 27/08/2018 :  04:58:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40

Maybe your new Sara is the one whose marriage you posted above to a Paul Hyggen.

Name: Sara Mari T. Stoltenberg
Gender: Female
Age: 40
Birth Date: 1797
Marriage Date: 28 des 1837 (28 Dec 1837)
Marriage Place: , Vestby, Akershus, Norway
Father: Brede Stoltenberg
Spouse: Poul Hyggen

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quote:
And it appears that Helge's mother married again or at least something that should be checked out:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NW92-4KP





Not sure what her title is, but it is not pige, and doesnot really look like Enke
#4
SAO, Vestby prestekontor Kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0006: Parish register (official) no. I 6, 1827-1849, p. 175
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061026010302
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jkmarler
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Posted - 27/08/2018 :  05:05:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
An online family tree at familysearch by Henrik Andreasen gives Sara daughter of Holger Stoltenberg this birth date:
17 December 1788
Kragerø, Telemark, Norge

Also suspicious is that Holger father of Sara was born 1772 and she b 1788, physically possible but unlikely.

Edited by - jkmarler on 27/08/2018 05:19:30
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PhilMyhre
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Posted - 27/08/2018 :  07:22:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
]Originally posted by lyndal40[/i]

[quote]Yes I have come across this before - I have an original certificate showing the names of Ole Hansen and Sara Marie Stoltenberg so am not sure? Can send to you if I can attach somehow.

You have an original certificate of what?

Philip Myhre
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PhilMyhre
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Posted - 27/08/2018 :  07:24:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by lyndal40

quote:
Yes I have come across this before - I have an original certificate showing the names of Ole Hansen and Sara Marie Stoltenberg so am not sure? Can send to you if I can attach somehow.


You have an original certificate of what?


Can you assist me - how do I attach a picture?

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PhilMyhre
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Posted - 27/08/2018 :  07:58:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[quote]Originally posted by jkmarler

An online family tree at familysearch by Henrik Andreasen gives Sara daughter of Holger Stoltenberg this birth date:
17 December 1788
Kragerø, Telemark, Norge

Also suspicious is that Holger father of Sara was born 1772 and she b 1788, physically possible but unlikely.


I have Sara's parents as; Holger Henrichsen Henrichsen Stoltenberg born 1761 in Tonsberg, died 1804. Her mother as Anna Maria Josepha Von Koss born 1757 i Gjerstad, died 1818

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jkmarler
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Posted - 27/08/2018 :  17:00:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay here is a Holger Stoltenberg unmarried in the 1801 census in Bergen b abt 1772:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058390007619
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AntonH
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Posted - 27/08/2018 :  17:07:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have updated the sheet of children to fix one error and to add the name used by the mother in the baptism records.

Children of Ole Hansen Myhre

Hans Bernt Feb 8, 1817 bap June 24, 1817 Maria Jacobsdatter

Erik June 5, 1819 bap Oct 16, 1819 Sara Maria Jacobsdatter

Carl Johan July 21, 1821 bap Nov 18, 1821 Sara M: Jacobsdatter

Josefa Bernhardine Jan 18, 1824 bap May 2, 1824 Sara Maria Jacobsdatter

Olava Charlotte May 16, 1826 bap Sep 3, 1826 Sara Maria Stoltenberg

Kristian Henrik Nov 3, 1828 bap Jan 4, 1829 Sara Maria Stoltenberg

Helge August Oct 4, 1831 bap May 12, 1833 Sara Maria Stoltenberg

For the baptism of Josefa there is a Anne Stoltenberg as a witness.

And there is a Jacob Stoltenberg married in 1771 in Tønsberg, Vestfold. But may have died in 1779

Link

Marriage record for Sara Maria Jacobsdatter

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Edited by - AntonH on 27/08/2018 22:49:58
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jkmarler
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Posted - 27/08/2018 :  17:43:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anna Maria Josepha here as Moss but should most likely be Koss in Drammen in 1801 no daughter named Sara in the family:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058267005696
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jkmarler
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Posted - 27/08/2018 :  17:49:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a birth / baptism for a Jacob b to Olle Stoltenberg and Maren Larsdtr in Fjære:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWPB-X2R

There is a mention of a Jacob Stoltenberg in a Fjære bygdebok at the National Library site but requires a Norwegian IP address to view.

Edited by - jkmarler on 27/08/2018 18:16:24
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jkmarler
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Posted - 27/08/2018 :  17:52:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bit of a snafu though as Anne Marie Josefa as mentioned by OP died in 1818, hard to stand faddernes when you're gone....

There is a Josefa Marie Koss age 56 who dies in 1818:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/267/pg00000001825664

Edited by - jkmarler on 27/08/2018 19:05:45
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jkmarler
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Posted - 27/08/2018 :  18:03:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay the only Sara Jacobsdatter born between 1780 and 1800 living in Buskerud, Vestfold, Telemark, Sorlandet in 1801 census are these 6:

Sara Jacobsdatter b abt 1784:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058311000644

Sara Jacobsdatter b abt 1798 living with her parents Jacob Jacobsen and Kari Hansdatter:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058270003293

Sara Jacobsdatter b abt 1799 living with her siblings and widowed mother Maria Hansdatter:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058299000409

Sara Jacobsdatter b. abt 1789 living with siblings and father Jacob Christensen and his 3rd wife:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058326001338

Sara Jacobsdatter b. abt 1789 living with siblings and parents Jacob Enerson and Rebeche Jacobsdatter :
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058341000725

Sara Tonette Jacobsdatter b. abt 1799 living with sibs and parents Jacob Torchelson and Maren Madsdatter:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058341000185

And those with Siri spelling are 4:
Siri Jacobsdatter b abt 1793 living with siblings and parents Jacob Jacobsen and Rachel Steffensdatter:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058275006428

Siri Jacobsdatter b. abt 1797 living with 1 sibling and her widowed mother Kristi Povelsdatter:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058275000040

Sirj Jacobsdatter b. abt 1794 living with sibs and parents Jacob Olsen age 50 and Anna Torchelsdatter:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058340002488

Siri Jacobsdatter b. abt 1797 living with sibs and parents Jacob Nielsen and Ane Olsdatter:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058327001179

And there are none with Sarah spelling. The only Sara Stoltenberg link was already posted previously.

Edited by - jkmarler on 27/08/2018 18:33:51
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AntonH
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Posted - 27/08/2018 :  18:17:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One more

Name: Sara Mathine Jacobsdatter
[Sara Mathine Fegt]
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 8 feb 1791
Baptism Place: Tangen Drammen, Buskerud, Norway
Father: Jacob Fegt
Mother: Caren Sophia Fegt
FHL Film Number: 123852
Reference ID: 2:XRN2WJ

1801

Edited by - AntonH on 27/08/2018 18:20:29
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jkmarler
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Posted - 27/08/2018 :  18:51:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40

One more

Name: Sara Mathine Jacobsdatter
[Sara Mathine Fegt]
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 8 feb 1791
Baptism Place: Tangen Drammen, Buskerud, Norway
Father: Jacob Fegt
Mother: Caren Sophia Fegt
FHL Film Number: 123852
Reference ID: 2:XRN2WJ

1801



Here a Sara Feght marries in 1810:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000001933078

Jacob the father dies in 1834:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/267/pg00000002414221

Edited by - jkmarler on 27/08/2018 19:04:07
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AntonH
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Posted - 27/08/2018 :  23:07:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I went back to the Geni Tree to see if some information could be gotten from the work that would have been done there. Found this that I overlooked the first time.

Josefa Bernhardine ble født på Bragernes i Drammen i en søskenflokk på 7. Hun ble døpt i Bragernes kirke, og i kirkeboken står bl.a "Jomfru Anne Stoltenberg" oppført som en av fadderne. Anne (Holgersdatter) Stoltenberg er en noe yngre halvsøster av Sara Marie, Josefas mor.

Would seem to be referring to Anne Magdalene Moss January 30, 1778
Kragerø, Telemark, Norway. But if so then Sara Maria would have been born before 1778?

Name: Anna Magdalena Hendrichsdatter
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 30 jan 1778
Baptism Date: 6 feb 1778
Baptism Place: Kragero, Telemark, Norway
Father: Hendrich Moss
Mother: Anna Maria Josepha Koss
FHL Film Number: 126947

I think Jackie has been here before.

Then the tree lists Peter Henrich as her brother b 1796 Buskerud. Major Peter Falck Von Koss and Maria Josefa Von Koss.

Last entry right hand page

Link

Here is Peter Falk von Koss and wife Anna Maria Josepha Moss and son Peter in 1801. One would think that if Anna Maria had a daughter in 1790 that she would be with her mother.

Link

They married Jan 29, 1788 Kragero, Telemark, Norway

Link

Children of Anna Maria Josepha Koss and Henrich Moss Married 16 mar 1775 , Baptism date given All from Kragero, Telemark except Peter.

Joseph Albert Feb 26, 1776

Friderica Henriksdatter Feb 6, 1778

Anna Magdalene Feb 6, 1778

Andreas June 28, 1779

Maria Elisabeth Oct 14, 1782

And with Peter Falch Married Jan 29, 1788

Peter Henrich July 9, 1796

Edited by - AntonH on 28/08/2018 00:56:20
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AntonH
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Posted - 28/08/2018 :  02:27:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My conclusion from above post is that I could not find a record for Anna Maria Joseph Koss as the mother of Sara Maria Jacobsdatter Stoltenberg.

Cobbling together information from several trees, I put together this family of interest.


Childen of Henrich Vincents Stoltenberg and Sara Maria Theodore Bredesen of Ås, Akershus

Regitz Sophia 1759

Holger Henrichen Stoltenberg 1761 (Holtenberg ?)
(Supposed father of Sara Maria Jacobsdatter Stoltenberg wife of Ole Hansen Myhre}

See next post for information on Holger

Brede Plade Stoltenberg (Holtentberg ?) Sep 27 1762 Ås, Akershus father is Henric Holtenberg ? (father of the Sara Mari Theodore Stoltenberg found by Jackie and born 1792

1801

Anne Henrikke Stoltenberg 1764
(possible witness for one of the children of Sara Maria Jacobsdatter Stoltenberg}

Karen Petronella 1765

Vincent 1766 - 1771

Gregors 1769

Vincent 1771

Henric 1776

Edited by - AntonH on 29/08/2018 01:49:36
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