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AntonH
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 Posted - 28/09/2018 : 22:27:12
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Here is the Ancestry baptism record for Inger Brigitte.
Name: Inger Bergette Osmundsen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 6 mar 1830
Baptism Date: 17 mar 1830
Baptism Place: , Lyngdal, Vest-Agder, Norway
Father: Osmund Bergsen
Mother: Anne Tonette Jacobsdr
The parents had several children. This is the only other girl I found.
Name: Ingebor Osmundsen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 18 des 1823 (18 Dec 1823)
Baptism Date: 25 des 1823 (25 Dec 1823)
Baptism Place: , Lyngdal, Vest-Agder, Norway
Father: Osmund Bergsen
Mother: Anne Tonette Jacobsdr
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So unless Ingebor starting using the name Berthe Gurine this line of a Zacahrias marrying an Osmundsdatter sister of Berthe Gurine does not work.
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David Wallace
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Posted - 03/10/2018 : 04:27:55
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| This forum has helped far beyond my expectation. Ship’s carpenter Simon Erlandsen is no longer the mystery. Bertha Osmundsen’s origins remain obscure. |
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jkmarler
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David Wallace
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Posted - 03/10/2018 : 16:19:07
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Has this Berthe Gurine Asmundsdatter been explored?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VWPG-4BC
That looks promising. The baptism could have been a year after the birth or, seems unlikely, Bertha could have misreported her birth year. Or the date could have been erroneously entered or erroneously transcribed. The key will be finding her sister who also emigrated to Chicago and the kirkebog out migration record. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 03/10/2018 : 16:46:39
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Good find Jackie, a big family, besides Berthe Gurine they had the following chidren.
Inger bap Sep 5, 1819
Helge bap Dec 14, 1828
Elisabeth bap Oct 14, 1832
Pauline bap Aug 23, 1835 |
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jkmarler
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David Wallace
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Posted - 03/10/2018 : 18:19:13
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Originally posted by ToreL
I have looked some more into the origins of the master carpenter Niels Christian Christensen who moved to Stavanger from Kristiansand after having spent some years in Denmark, and who to all apearances was the father of Susanne Marie Nielsdatter.
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This very long post leaves me somewhat confused. Who is the child of Hans Fermedahl? I do not see a Hansdatter or Hansen.
Similarly, some other relationships mentioned do not specify who and to whom the relationship pertains.
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AntonH
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Posted - 03/10/2018 : 21:29:57
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Hans Tellefsen Fermedahl married Susanne Marie Torjesdatter the widow of Niels Christian Christensen in 1796.
Name: Hans Tellefsen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 19 feb 1796
Marriage Place: Kristiansand, Vest-Agder, Norway
Spouse: Susanne Marie Torjesdr
FHL Film Number: 127314
Reference ID: 2:1LFQRZL
They had at least one child, who died shortly after birth. Tobias born 18 nov 1798 and died 12 apr 1800. A burial record exists for a Christiane born in 1794 died in 1799 exists but the burial record may not be correct.
I do not see in post by ToreL a reference to a Hansen or Hansdatter so I am a little confused as to what you are referring to. There is a Edel Kirstine Hansdatter listed as a foster child in the 1801 Census record for Hans Fermedahl and family.
Tobias
Baptism for Christiane
Christane
Name: Christiane Hansdatter
Gender: Female
Age: 5y
Birth Date: 1794
Burial Date: 25 mai 1799 (25 May 1799)
Burial Place: Kristiansand, Vest-Agder, Norway
Father: Hans Tellefsen Fennedahl
Mother: Susanne Marie Christensddatter
FHL Film Number: 127314
Reference ID: b 5 p 15
Original burial record
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The father of Christiane may very well be Neils Christiansen and the mother's last name in the burial record could be incorrect. |
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David Wallace
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Posted - 04/10/2018 : 15:22:53
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This very long post leaves me somewhat confused. Who is the child of Hans Fermedahl? I do not see a Hansdatter or Hansen.
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Silly me! I had misread stepfather as father-in-law. |
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David Wallace
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Posted - 04/10/2018 : 16:19:25
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Originally posted by jkmarler
There are numerous children in the family [of Aasmund Heljesen and Valbor Pedrresdr]:
Inger Aasmundsdatter
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VWPG-4V5
possible Inger marriage to Rasmus Olsen:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NW6X-62K
Pauline Aasmundsdatter
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NCD4-9S9
Helge Aasmundsen
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NCD4-RZR
Amund Aasmundsen
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NCD4-P8G
Aasmumd & Valbor married 29 Mar 1818 in Ogna, Rogaland.
Then in Egersund, Rogaland, in order, their children:
Inger ch. 5 Sep 1819 / married Rasmus Olsen 1844
Berthe Gurine ch. 13 April 1823 / married Tollak Tollaksen 1845
Helge b. 30 Nov 1828, ch 14 Dec
Elisabeth b. 24 Sep 1832, ch. 14 Oct / married Jacob M. Larsen 1847
Pauline b. 15 Aug 1835, ch. 23 Aug
Amund b.5 Jan 1839, ch. 13 Jan
Berthe & Tollak moved to Stavanger, where their children were born.
Tollaf Andreas b. 1 Aug 1846, ch. 23 Aug
Olene Wilhelmine b. 1 Oct 1851
Possible divorce ? ? ?
Thollak Thollaksen in Stavanger married Gabriel Larsen 2 Feb 1854
research in progress
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David Wallace
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Posted - 04/10/2018 : 16:30:37
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Thollak Thollaksen in Stavanger married Gabriel Larsen 2 Feb 1854
Error ! Thollak Thollaksen was father of the bride. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 04/10/2018 : 16:48:27
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Maybe of some interest. There is a Tree on Ancestry for Bethe Osmundsdatter and Tollak Tollakson. They had one daughter Olena Wilhelmina. The Tree shows Olena as having lived in Illinois.
Olena Wilhemine Tollaksen
1851–1935
BIRTH 01 OCT 1851 • Stavanger, Rogaland, Norway
DEATH 09 APR 1935 • Aurora, Kane, Illinois, USA
Olive W Tollaksen
in the Cook County, Illinois, Marriages Index, 1871-1920
Name: Olive W Tollaksen
Age: 24
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1852
Marriage Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 17 Jul 1876
Marriage Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Spouse Name: Lewis Evanson
Spouse Age: 24
Spouse Gender: Male
FHL Film Number: 1030097
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David Wallace
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Posted - 04/10/2018 : 17:23:49
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Splendid!
That fits better than making Simon’s daughter Gurine the Lena in Chicago who is the widow Evans in 1880.
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AntonH
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Posted - 04/10/2018 : 17:50:39
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The census records indicate she came to America as a young child. They do differ in the year by quite a bit.
1900 Census arrived 1851
1910 Census arrived 1853
1920 Census arrived 1858
1930 Census arrived 1862
Olena W Duncan
in the 1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Olena W Duncan
Age: 48
Birth Date: Oct 1851
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Fondulac, Tazewell, Illinois
Sheet Number: 2
Number of Dwelling in Order of Visitation: 38
Family Number: 40
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1854
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Thomas Duncan
Marriage Year: 1886
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Mother: Number of Living Children: 4
Mother: How Many Children: 6
Years in US: 46
Can Read: Yes
Can Write: Yes
Can Speak English: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Duncan 49
Olena W Duncan 48
Alfred D Duncan 10
William Duncan 8
Henry D Duncan 71
Benjamin Duncan 4
Jim Johnson 35 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 04/10/2018 : 18:17:02
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I have got to think that this is Bertha Tollokson in the 1880 Census as a widow. Last name is badly transcribed but there is Lena Evans as her widowed daughter. Or this is actually Bertha Simonson and daughter Lena as was surmised by Jackie back on page one of the thread.
Or is there only one Betha who was married to Tollok Tolloksen in Norway emigrated to Chicago where Torkleee died and then Bethe married Simon Erlandsen.
Bertha Allason
in the 1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Bertha Allason
Age: 57
Birth Date: Abt 1823
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: Jefferson, Cook, Illinois, USA
Dwelling Number: 692
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Occupation: Keeping House
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Bertha Allason 57
Theodore Allason 23
Barton Allason 21
Lena Evans 28
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