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synnoven
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Posted - 17/10/2018 :  16:06:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My greatgrandfather left Norway in 1903 heading for America. He was on the ship Hellig Olav and arrived at Ellis Island April 10th 1903. He was born in Lier, Norway
January 1st 1872. His brother Bernt had emigrated earlier.

I will be grateful for every information about these two brothers. The family in Norway did not seem to have much contact with them. When their mother died in 1920, they are mentioned with unknown address in America.

Synnøve N Ramsrud

AntonH
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Posted - 17/10/2018 :  17:00:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Emigration record is this one?

Link

Ancestry.com data base has this arrival as April 9. Would this be your Ole.

Ole Andersen Troniud
in the New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name: Ole Andersen Troniud
[Ole Andersen Thonrud]
Arrival date: 9 Apr 1903
Birth Date: abt 1875
Age: 27 Years 6 Months
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Hellig Olav

His destination is listed as Ashby Minnesota. That is in Grant County

He is traveling to his Aunt Anne or Aste ? Hansen.

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AntonH
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Posted - 18/10/2018 :  03:32:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here are the two birth records. They will help us guide the search

Name: Ole Andersen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 1 jan 1872
Baptism Date: 11 feb 1872
Baptism Place: , Lier, Buskerud, Norway
Father: Anders Olsen
Mother: Marie Olivia Olsdr

Name: Bernt Andersen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 12 mar 1874
Baptism Date: 2 apr 1874
Baptism Place: , Lier, Buskerud, Norway
Father: Anders Olsen
Mother: Marie Olivia Olsdr

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peder
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Posted - 18/10/2018 :  15:50:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
source: my heritage

Ole Andersen Trollerud
1872 - ?
Birth: Jan 1 1872
Nordal, Lier, Buskerud, Norge
Family members
Parents: Anders Olsen Trollerud
1841 - 1906
Marie Oline Olsen Trollerud (født Olsdatter)
1849 - ?
Wife:
Jacobine Andreasdtr. Trollerud (født Nordahl)
1868 - 1945
Siblings: Martin Andersen Trollerud
1876 - 1963
Andreas Andersen Trollerud
1884 - ?
Asta Lovise Andersdatter
1889 - ?
<Private> Trollerud
Oskar Andersen Trollerud
1880 - 1963
Hans Andersen Trollerud
1886 - 1960
Karl Andersen Trollerud
1893 - 1957
<Private> Trollerud

Son:
Olaf Olsen Nordahl
1898 - 1972
Olaf Olsen Nordahl
1898 - 1972
Birth: Mar 3 1898
Nordal, Lier, Buskerud
Baptism: May 30 1898
Tranby kirke, Lier, Buskerud
Marriage: Marriage to: Eli Margrete Andersdatter Bakken (Nordahl)
Sep 20 1919
Bragnernes kirke, Drammen, Buskerud
Death: July 24 1972
Lier Buskerud Norway
Burial: Tranby kirke, Lier
Family members
Parents: Ole Andersen Trollerud
1872 - ?

Jacobine Andreasdtr. Trollerud (født Nordahl)
1868 - 1945
Wife:
Eli Margrete Andersdatter Nordahl (født Bakken)
1898 - 1971
Children:
Thorbjørn Nordahl
1920 - 2002

Johnny Nordahl
1927 - 1999

Lilly Kristine Nybakken (født Nordahl)
1925 - 1989
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peder
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Posted - 18/10/2018 :  15:53:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bernt Trollerud
1874 - ?
Otto Trollerud
1878 - ?
Andreas Andersen Trollerud
1884 - ?
Asta Lovise Andersdatter Trollerud
1889 - ?
Martin Trollerud
1876 - 1963
Oskar Trollerud
1880 - ?
Hans Andersen Trollerud
1886 - ?
Karl Andersen Trollerud
1893 - 1957
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peder
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Posted - 18/10/2018 :  16:07:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052792006076

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037045158476
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jkmarler
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Posted - 19/10/2018 :  01:58:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does the name Aurora Nilsen mean anything to you? She is going to her uncle O. Trollerud in Wisconsin in 1907:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGGL-SRLS
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jkmarler
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Posted - 19/10/2018 :  02:45:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably Bernt in 1891 census, learning shoemaking:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052792005952

Possibly Bernt leaving in 1892, headed to "Phillips" , Wisconsin?:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/8/pe00000001034695

Probably the family in 1875:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01052124005868

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AntonH
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Posted - 19/10/2018 :  02:55:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably the same Bernt A Nordal

Bert A Nordall
in the Web: Wisconsin, Find A Grave Index, 1836-2012Name: Bert A Nordall
Birth Date: 1874
Age at Death: 46
Death Date: 1920
Burial Place: Park Falls, Price County, Wisconsin, USA

Married a Sadie Wells Nov 20, 1900

Bernt and family in 1910, no sign of Ole

1900

Edited by - AntonH on 19/10/2018 03:01:12
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AntonH
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Posted - 19/10/2018 :  04:05:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This certificate dated 1941

Aurora Nilsen
in the Illinois, Federal Naturalization Records, 1856-1991
Name: Aurora Nilsen
Record Type: Certificate
Arrival date: 23 Jul 1907
Arrival Place: New York, New York
Certificate Number: 11-313591

This might explain how Aurora is related

Aurora Nilsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Aurora Nilsen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 20 jan 1890
Birth Place: Kongsberg, Buskerud, Norway
Baptism Date: 6 apr 1890
Baptism Place: Kongsberg, Buskerud, Norway
Father: Martin Nilsen
Mother: Hilda Trollerud
FHL Film Number: 278199
Reference ID: bk 6 p 2

Not sure Hilda is related to the Anders Olsen family from Lier

Edited by - AntonH on 19/10/2018 04:24:40
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jkmarler
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Posted - 19/10/2018 :  10:30:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hilda Trollerud appears to be from Eidsvold, here in 1910:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01036371001924

Here in 1900:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01037045011098

On Trollerud in Eidsvold in 1865:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/rural-residence/bf01038024005049

in 1875 census:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/rural-residence/bf01052052005939

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jkmarler
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Posted - 19/10/2018 :  10:47:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
possibly as Ole Nordell in 1920, came to US 1903 living at 1301 E 46th , working as a door polisher at a sash and door company:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MHJM-TLP

possibly in 1930:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XC3R-V5B

Very close, dying in 1944 with calculated birthdate of 1 Jan 1873:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N3TP-G1Q

FAG memorial:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/178610340

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jkmarler
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Posted - 19/10/2018 :  11:43:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40

Probably the same Bernt A Nordal

Bert A Nordall
in the Web: Wisconsin, Find A Grave Index, 1836-2012Name: Bert A Nordall
Birth Date: 1874
Age at Death: 46
Death Date: 1920
Burial Place: Park Falls, Price County, Wisconsin, USA

Married a Sadie Wells Nov 20, 1900

Bernt and family in 1910, no sign of Ole

1900




Obituary of daughter Florence transcribed:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKW6-NHQT

Florence Louise Fuhr, 99

Fuhr

Park Falls Herald, The (WI) - Wednesday, October 27, 2004
Florence Louise Fuhr, 99, died Tuesday, Oct. 19, 2004, at Flambeau Hospital, Park Falls.

Burial will take place at a later date at Wisconsin Memorial Park, Brookfield.

She was born May 14, 1905, in Park Falls. Her parents were Bernt and Sadie (Wells) Nordall.

She was married to Leo Fuhr in Milwaukee.

She was a secretary for a retail clothing chain until her retirement.

She is survived by a brother, Robert Nordall of Park Falls; a sister, Doris (Carl) Langlois of Manitowoc; and by nieces, nephews, other relatives and friends.
Park Falls Herald, The (WI) - Wednesday, October 27, 2004
CITE THIS RECORD
Park Falls Herald, The () , obit for Fuhr, GenealogyBank.com accessed 19 October 2018)

Obituary of son Robert transcribed:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKQP-3BDJ
Robert 'Zip' Nordall

Robert 'Zip' Nordall

Daily Press, The (Ashland, WI) - Monday, June 2, 2008
Robert "Zip" W. Nordall, age 91, of Park Falls, died Thursday, May 29, 2008 at the Howard Young Medical Center in Woodruff. He was born November 16, 1916 in Park Falls, the son of Bernt and Sadie (Wells) Nordall. He married Elmyra "Peewee" Schnelle on September 28, 1940 in Park Falls.

He is survived by three sons, Danny (Barb) Nordall of Gleason, Larry Nordall of Park Falls and Dean (Anny) Nordall of La Crosse; seven grandchildren; one sister, Dori Langlois of Manitowoc; numerous nieces, nephews, relatives and friends.

He was preceded in death by his parents; his wife, Elmyra "Peewee" in 2001; an infant granddaughter, Jodie; two infant brothers; one brother, Lloyd; one infant sister; two sisters, Margaret Pollard and Florence Fuhr.

Funeral services will be held on Tuesday, June 3 at 11 a.m. from the First Congregational Church in Park Falls with Pastor Mary Jo Laabs officiating. Burial will follow at the Nola Cemetery in Park Falls with military rites under the auspices of the Wisconsin Military Funeral Honors Program.

Visitation will be held on Tuesday, June 3 from 10 a.m. until the hour of service at the church. The Novitzke Funeral Home in Park Falls is handling the arrangements.
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Daily Press, The (Ashland, WI) - Monday, June 2, 2008
CITE THIS RECORD
Daily Press, The () , obit for Robert 'Zip' Nordall, GenealogyBank.com accessed 19 October 2018)

Grandson of Bernt:
Kenneth L Or Ken Nordall, 91

Kenneth Nordall

Juneau County Star-Times (WI) - Monday, October 8, 2012
NECEDAH — Kenneth L. Nordall, 91, passed away Sept. 29, 2012, at the Mile Bluff Medical Center, Mauston.

He was born Aug. 24, 1921, to Lloyd and Vida Nordall in Park Falls.

A World War II Veteran, Ken enlisted in the U.S. Army in May of 1940. He served in the United States, Panama and France. He was honorably discharged in August 1945.

Ken was married to Beatrice Nephew on Feb. 12, 1944. He worked in the steel mills in Minnesota and then worked as a truck driver in Illinois and Wisconsin. He then moved to Oak Creek, where he worked for the Peter Cooper Corp. for 20 years, retiring in 1982.

Ken was an avid hunter and fisherman. He loved going out to Wyoming for hunting trips, making his last Wyoming trip in 2007. Ken was an active member of the American Legion Post No. 277 and the VFW Post No. 10231 in Necedah. He also was a member of St. James Lutheran Church in Necedah, where he enjoyed volunteering to cut patches for the quilts made by the church that were sent overseas. Ken also volunteered at the veterans home in Tomah, where he helped veterans play bingo.

He is survived by his wife of 68 years, Beatrice; children, Karen (Virgil) Boutain of Necedah, Cindy (Steve) Mazzoni of Milwaukee and Candy (Dave) Harp of Wichita, Kan.; grandchildren; great-grandchildren; and a great-great-grandchild.

He was preceded in death by his parents; and son, Kenneth J. Nordall.

Memorial services will be held at 11 a.m. today at St. James Lutheran Church in Necedah.

Torkelson Necedah Family Funeral Home is assisting the family with arrangements. Online condolences are available at www.torkelsonfuneralhome.com.
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Juneau County Star-Times (WI) - Monday, October 8, 2012
CITE THIS RECORD
Juneau County Star-Times () , obit for Kenneth Nordall, GenealogyBank.com accessed 19 October 2018)

Edited by - jkmarler on 19/10/2018 19:10:49
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AntonH
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Posted - 19/10/2018 :  16:47:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Social Security Claims Record gives a birth date as Jan 1, 1873 for Ole Olsen Nordall

Ole Olsen Nordall
in the U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007
Name: Ole Olsen Nordall
Birth Date: 1 Jan 1873
Claim Date: 26 Jan 1938
SSN: 536096610
Notes: 16 Mar 1979: Name listed as OLE OLSEN NORDALL

SSN Number 536 indicates the Social Security Card was issued in the state of Washington

Edited by - AntonH on 19/10/2018 16:51:05
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jkmarler
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Posted - 19/10/2018 :  17:49:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
B.A. Nordall died in a gasoline explosion on 14 June 1920:
Great Falls daily tribune. (Great Falls, Mont.), 15 June 1920. Chronicling America: Historic American Newspapers. Lib. of Congress.
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn84024808/1920-06-15/ed-1/seq-1/

loyd Nordall mentioned in this article:
St. Paul tidende. (St. Paul, Minn.), 27 May 1921. Chronicling America: Historic American Newspapers. Lib. of Congress.
<http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn90059649/1921-05-27/ed-1/seq-5/>

Story mentioning an " O. Nordall":
The Tacoma times. (Tacoma, Wash.), 30 March 1917. Chronicling America: Historic American Newspapers. Lib. of Congress.
<http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn88085187/1917-03-30/ed-1/seq-1/>

Edited by - jkmarler on 21/10/2018 05:49:36
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jkmarler
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Posted - 19/10/2018 :  23:46:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40

Social Security Claims Record gives a birth date as Jan 1, 1873 for Ole Olsen Nordall

Ole Olsen Nordall
in the U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007
Name: Ole Olsen Nordall
Birth Date: 1 Jan 1873
Claim Date: 26 Jan 1938
SSN: 536096610
Notes: 16 Mar 1979: Name listed as OLE OLSEN NORDALL

SSN Number 536 indicates the Social Security Card was issued in the state of Washington



I don't think that he can be ruled out because of the patronymic name. His father was Anders Olson and this often leads to that kind of hybridization.

There is an obit for him in one or other of the Tacoma newspapers. Index is found at the Tacoma Public Library site and this is what it says for him:

NORDALL, OLE
Date of death
1944-04-19

Date of the obituary and page
21 APR 1944 16
It might contain some details or might not. It apparently is only available on a fee basis.

Otherwise, I don't have access to a Tacoma paper with it.






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