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TomHammer
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 Posted - 07/12/2018 : 19:05:16
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Looking for Norwegian records on Margit Christopherson. According to US Census data (which is many times incorrect), she was born in 1853, 1856, or 1858 in Norway. I believe Telemark.
US Census data also shows she emigrated to America in 1876 or 1885 and settled in Minnesota. I have information about her starting from 1887 (marriage to Carl August Hammer) after she arrived in America.
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Edited by - TomHammer on 07/12/2018 19:06:15 |
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TomHammer
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101 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2018 : 20:29:40
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There's just no consistency in the US data. I know it's the same person based on the location, spouse, and children names:
1900 - Feb 1853; age 47; Immigration 1885
1905 - 1848 (est); age 57; Years in state: 20 (which would be 1885)
1910 - 1860 (est); age 50; Immigration 1876
1920 - 1859 (est); age 61; Immigration 1879; Naturalization 1887
1930 - 1857 (est); age 73; Immigration 1890 (which can't be right)
1940 - 1856 (est); age 84
www.findagrave.com headstone shows 1856 - 1944 (if I'm looking at the correct headstone) and the website shows the birth to be Jan 1856. However, the birthplace is listed as Wisconsin, USA (which isn't correct).
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/12/2018 : 21:09:20
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Records for two female children at FamilySearch.org, Alice and Clara, born to Carl Hammer in Minnesota list their mother as either Margaret or Margret Christopherson born in Telemarken.
The gravestone for the same woman in Scott Co. MN lists her as Margaret Hammer born Jan 1856 in Wisconsin.
The 1905 Minnesota State census lists Marie Hammer as born 1848 in Norway.
Has an obituary been found for this woman? A church record of her marriage to Carl Hammer?
We are posting items at almost the same time...
But a VERY interesting item is the Minnesota death record for "Margretta Hammer", died May 1944 in Scott Co. MN where it lists her father as "Swen Christotherson". So if she were recorded with traditional patronymic naming in Norway she would be some variation on Margaret Swensdatter. and there would be quite a few variable spellings on those two...
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TomHammer
Medium member
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Posted - 07/12/2018 : 21:13:59
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I haven't found either an obituary or marriage record. I do know this about the marriage:
29 December 1887
Lakeville, Dakota, Minnesota, United States
U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1826-1945. Married in Christiana Church. Listed as Carl Pederson Hamar. Witnesses Herman(?) Hamar and Kristina(?) P. Hamar.
However, I can't find the image. |
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TomHammer
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Posted - 07/12/2018 : 21:16:29
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ID: I027216
Name: Margaret Christofferson
Sex: F
Birth: ABT 1856 in Telemark, Norway
Death: 1944
Burial: West Christiania Lutheran Cem., New Market, Scott, Minnesota |
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TomHammer
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Posted - 07/12/2018 : 21:21:22
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Getting closer:
genealogytrails.com shows the couple:
Hammer, Carl P.? B. 1-29-1853 Norway. NY. 6-1878? 7 ch. 1st. P. 1878? Hastings, Mn.
Hammer, Maggie B. 2-16-1859 Raulau. Norway. NY. 1878? Husband = Carl.
1918 Alien Registration Form Transcription:
http://genealogytrails.com/minn/scott/census_alien.html
What does this mean: "NY. 6-1878? 7 ch. 1st. P. 1878?" |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/12/2018 : 21:38:48
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Raulau. Norway possibly Rauland, Telemark, Norway??
The notation starting with NY may somehow be referring to immigration? Otherwise, no idea. |
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TomHammer
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Posted - 07/12/2018 : 21:57:11
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| Carl's dob is 10 January 1854 and he arrived in New York from Oslo on 21 April 1879. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/12/2018 : 22:14:24
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In this record the wife is referred to as Margit Christopersdatter
Carl P Hammer
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Carl P Hammer
Gender: Male
Spouse: Marget Christophersdtr
Child: Clara Mathilda Hammer
And again
Margaret Christofferson
in the Minnesota, Births and Christenings Index, 1840-1980
Name: Margaret Christofferson
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Telemachen, Norway
Spouse: Carl Hammer
Child: Clara Mathilda Hammer
FHL Film Number: 1379417
And for another child
Name: Christen E Hammer
Record Type: Confirmation
Confirmation Date: 1908
Father: Carl P Hammer
Mother: Marget Christopherson
Church Name: Christiania Lutheran Church
Church Location: Lakeville, Minnesota |
Edited by - AntonH on 07/12/2018 22:21:30 |
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TomHammer
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Posted - 07/12/2018 : 22:19:25
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Thanks!
Do you have a link to this? "Minnesota death record for "Margretta Hammer", died May 1944 in Scott Co. MN".
I was assuming that her last name in Norway was Christopherson, but from researching I've done before, very rare that it would be once they arrived in America. Hopefully, you've provided the connection I need.
Even Carl Hammer started out in Norway as Carl Perdersen, since his dad was Peder. Hence, the listing "Carl P. Hammer".
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/12/2018 : 22:25:18
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Yes but I am not sure it provides anything new.
Margrette Hammer
in the Minnesota, Death Index, 1908-2002
Name: Margrette Hammer
Death Date: 1 May 1944
Death County: Scott
State File Number: 014309
Certificate Number: 014309
Certificate Year: 1944
Record Number: 950142 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 07/12/2018 : 23:10:32
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Is it your assumption then that Margit assumed the last name of her father Sven Christstophersen when she arrived in America. There are no Mar* Christophers* listed in the 1865 Census for Telemark. There is Svein Kristoffersen and Aase Johnsdatter in Rauland in the 1865 Census
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And a marriage record for the same couple in 1852 in Tinn.
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Hopkins
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TomHammer
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101 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2018 : 23:37:58
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lyndal40, yes, I believe there is enough evidence for this assumption.
hopkins, that's my tree. I've been making updates to it.
Thanks to both of you. |
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TomHammer
Medium member
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101 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2018 : 23:41:11
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| I would still like to find the ship manifest if anyone has time to look. |
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Margit Christopherson
