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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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 Posted - 02/02/2019 : 11:22:41
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Another relative # 19 Anna on 11 July 1883?:
SAT, Ministerialprotokoller, klokkerbøker og fødselsregistre - Sør-Trøndelag, 687/L1002: Ministerialbok nr. 687A08, 1878-1890, s. 35
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061017040550
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dpete
Starting member
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Posted - 03/02/2019 : 04:24:43
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JK, this (#19) Anna is the child of Erik's brother Anders. Anna's mother, Ingeborg, and Anders never married, and it is correct that Anders was already in MInnesota when Anna was born. I discovered this birth about a year ago and prior to that did not know that Anders had left Ingeborg, Anna's mother, with child. Whether Anders knew it or not, I can not say, but I suspect that he did. Anna's mother left for Wisconsin in 1887 and shortly after arriving married Anders Olsen Aune from the Aune farm who had established himself as a farmer in Wisconsin. Since Aune and Refseth were so close in proximity, in a number of cases a person's farm name changed from Aune to Refseth or vice versa depending on where the individual was living/working at the time.
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dpete
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Posted - 03/02/2019 : 04:29:36
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JK, yes, both Erik and Anders left a pregnant woman in Norway when they headed for Minnesota. Erik sent for and married the woman he left behind shortly after she arrived in Brainerd with their son (my grandfather). Not so with Anders.
This #3 entry is a different Erik as you can see on the far right the child is ægte (ekte/legitimate). Had this been my oldefar the child would have been listed as uægte/uekte/illigitimate. The listed birth year of the father is 1851 and my oldefar was born in 1864. I'll have to see if I can find out more about this fellow with the same name. :)
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 03/02/2019 : 08:17:47
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quote:
Originally posted by dpete
JK, yes, both Erik and Anders left a pregnant woman in Norway when they headed for Minnesota. Erik sent for and married the woman he left behind shortly after she arrived in Brainerd with their son (my grandfather). Not so with Anders.
This #3 entry is a different Erik as you can see on the far right the child is ægte (ekte/legitimate). Had this been my oldefar the child would have been listed as uægte/uekte/illigitimate. The listed birth year of the father is 1851 and my oldefar was born in 1864. I'll have to see if I can find out more about this fellow with the same name. :)
Erik Pedersen Refseth in 1865 census:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01052373001136
My observation wasn't just about your relatives but there were quite a few births with the man in America in 1882-1884 in Støren, I stopped counting at about 5 in those years. So something was afoot.
If you were able to find baptismal records in Crow Wing county for the oldest of the births in both of the boys' families, it seems likely that you would find Kari listed as faddernes. In Ancestry they do have ELCA pastoral records and Kari's death as found in Brainerd Lutheran's records which you probably already know. Unfortunately it appears the earliest records for that congregation occur in the mid 1890s so not helpful to the question of when did Kari arrive.
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dpete
Starting member
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Posted - 05/02/2019 : 20:58:50
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Originally posted by jkmarler
My observation wasn't just about your relatives but there were quite a few births with the man in America in 1882-1884 in Støren, I stopped counting at about 5 in those years. So something was afoot.
If you were able to find baptismal records in Crow Wing county for the oldest of the births in both of the boys' families, it seems likely that you would find Kari listed as faddernes. In Ancestry they do have ELCA pastoral records and Kari's death as found in Brainerd Lutheran's records which you probably already know. Unfortunately it appears the earliest records for that congregation occur in the mid 1890s so not helpful to the question of when did Kari arrive.
Several years ago I had a subscription to Ancestry, but presently am not a member. I've done the bulk of my research in the available church records in Norway. I will attempt to see if I can learn anything from records relative to acquiring USA citizenship. Ole stated he was a naturalized citizen in the 1900 federal census, but apparently women were not asked the question since they did not yet have the right to vote. Kari may never have become a citizen before passing away in 1909.
Thank you again for your assistance! |
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Emigration puzzle
